From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 14 22:56:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A145B1065686 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969E48FC1A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id f9pf1a0070bG4ec52AwAJ6; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:56:10 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fAwT1a00U2P6wsM3PAwU9Y; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:56:28 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=zmpMXqy9UnxBWz9J5D4A:9 a=PQFuy7oN4aW-KkdSzkEA:7 a=fN8f03JyrsKUioKylvnAQ0BgU-gA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0169933C36; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:56:26 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20081114225626.GA56663@icarus.home.lan> References: <491D59D3.8080809@spansurf.com> <20081114203914.W14337@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <491DDD56.1040001@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <491DDD56.1040001@ccstores.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: re changing from vista X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:56:31 -0000 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:19:34PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from >>> windows vista >>> >>> but i cannot understand which system to use >> >> maybe windows XP? >> >>> >>> i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software >> >> simply check it. > > unless you think this may be a troll, > your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. But why are we interested in "converting" people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. People should use whatever OS gets the job done for them, be it Windows, FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, Solaris, DOS, whatever. The OP's question is vague in a sincere way; users who want to move away from an OS often hope there is a simple answer, when in fact there isn't. My point is that focusing on "converting" someone, I feel, is the wrong way to go about showing the world the operating system is worth using. To me, it's just just another manipulative form of marketing; and I don't know about you, but marketing doesn't sway me when it comes to most things (*especially* computing-oriented things). Marketing often turns people off to things, rather than on. I'm not saying "we don't need new users" -- I'm saying: if we took half the energy used "converting" people and applied it to fixing bugs and improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to "convert". "Build it (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come". I guess I just see things in a different light than most. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |