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Date:      Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:56:19 -0500 (EST)
From:      Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
To:        ataraxia@cox.net, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sendmail without (real) hostname?
Message-ID:  <200211071156.gA7BuJeJ009952@arkadia.nv.cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021107034627.GA990@gray.sea.gr>

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> From keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Wed Nov  6 23:00:20 2002
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:46:27 +0200
> From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
> To: Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname?
>
> On 2002-11-06 21:15, Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net> wrote:
> >Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >>Funny.  All ISPs that have a tiny sort of sense and respect for their
> >>users that have dynamically allocated IP addresses will usually
> >>provide at least one mail relay.  If not for any other reason, to let
> >>them send email to servers that refuse all messages from hosts whose
> >>forward and reverse DNS lookups fail (a lot of the servers use this as
> >>a form of antispam measure).
> > 
> > It's a `no servers allowed' ISP.
>
> As long as you are not letting people relay mail through you, and only
> use your ISPs mail gateway to relay your own mail to the world, you
> are not a `server' as far as the ISP is concerned.  Just a usual SMTP
> client.  They most certainly keep a mail gateway handy for their
> users, since the most popular mail user agents in the Windows world
> tend to fail miserably without one :)
>

Well, before I used your tip, the relay would fail because the `from:'
part of the envelope was invalid, but now I suppose I ought to use the
`smart host' feature since it ought to work.

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