From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 17 9:18:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7262537B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BC543E8A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:18:26 +0000 Received: from cream.org (unverified [62.31.102.197]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:18:26 +0000 Message-ID: <3DD7CF81.7030407@cream.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:18:57 +0000 From: Andrew Boothman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Chat , "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? References: <20021116232242.S23359-100000@hub.org> <04f801c28e20$0a3665b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anthony Atkielski wrote: > The most appropriate version of any operating system to run on your server > is the oldest one that meets your requirements. Otherwise you will spend > your life doing someone else's debugging. I think the point is that if everyone took that opinion then -stable would never get stress-tested in the sort of environment that Marc is using it, and we would never find some problems until a -release was rolled making the -release far less stable than we are used to. I think it's great that Marc is willing to run -stable in such an environment, basically for the good of the communuity to help to iron out bugs before a release. The problem is that he has been getting an unacceptably high level of crashes and no help in ironing out the bugs. Unfortunately these situations need someone with a high level of knowledge to sit down and work with Marc's crash dumps to figure out what the problem is. And those people are few and far between..... Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message