From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jan 5 11:41:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B714F37B401; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C70343E4A; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:41:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from isi.edu (c-24-130-112-121.we.client2.attbi.com [24.130.112.121]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h05JfIC24945; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E188A5C.3040001@isi.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 11:41:16 -0800 From: Lars Eggert Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard childers / kg6hac Cc: lewiz , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Working around problems when an NFS server dies / is unavailable. References: <20030105001254.GA48290@lewiz.org> <3E1781E0.20D76CB8@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3E1781E0.20D76CB8@pacbell.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030100090503060607020604" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030100090503060607020604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1/4/2003 4:52 PM, richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > > Personally, I don't trust amd(8). It's not clear to me that it's any smarter > than I am regarding hung NFS file servers. You're right, it's not (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/24391); amd is easily confused by changes in network configuration. 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