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Date:      Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:32:58 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>
To:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ports status / category quandry
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.95.970115223234.264r-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970115222817.2239F-100000@baud.eng.umd.edu>

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On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Chuck Robey wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, John Fieber wrote:
> > A printing application might make use of SGML, but SGML is *not*
> > a printing application by any stretch of the definition.  It
> > doesn't belong in printing any more than ispell or recode does.
> 
> Very few of our applications *exactly* fit one category.  Is there
> anything else like sgml?  Are you asking for a one-item category?  Would

Of course I'm aware that nothing fits exactly one category.  That
is what cross references are for.  In my years working in
libraries, and more recently as a doctoral student in library and
information science, I have had the opportunity to look at a
number of classification schemes in enough depth to have a
reasonable grasp of how they work, or don't as the case may be.

A basic property of all schemes is that they have gaping holes.
While the ominous four volume set that comprises the Library of
Congress Subject headings seems to cover just about everything
when looked at casually, more careful scrutiny reveals some holes
of mammoth proportions.  (particularly for non-western topics and
materials).

A difference between classification schemes that work and those
that don't is that the former are dynamic and grow to fill in the
gaps.  The process never ends because gaps pop up out of nowhere,
for instance the entire field of computer science created a gap
that had to be filled in the before mentioned LCSH.

Back to tho topic at hand, I think that SP, and a number of other
text processing tools currently classified as "misc" belong in
what is currently just such a hole in our tiny ports
classification scheme.

Heck, many of the most commonly used unix tools--sed, grep, awk,
wc, sort, and uniq to name just a few--are best classified as
text processing tools. Of course they could all be used in the
process of creating a printed document, but few people if any
would classify them as "printing"  tools in the way that, say,
TeX is a printing tool. 

So no, I don't think SP is a category of one.

> putting sgml in either print or misc be so misleading?  The idea of

Short answer: yes.

If I'm looking for something to validate the syntax of my HTML
files, how likely is it that I'm going to look behind Door Number
One labeled "print"?  Not likely.

-john





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