From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:30:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBD016A41C; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8E43D1D; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j5N9VTb30845; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:30:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <42BA7B35.60407@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Fafa Hafiz Krantz , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Explaining FreeBSD features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:30:33 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Erich Dollansky [mailto:oceanare@pacific.net.sg] >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:05 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Fafa Hafiz Krantz; questions@freebsd.org; advocacy@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Explaining FreeBSD features > >>> >> _I_ don't. Who does? >> >Some do a logo contest to make FreeBSD more appearing, there is some >activity going in. Most of the rank and file argued long against that contest. >> Why should I study the drivers manual before getting a >drivers license? >> >I do not know why people do it. I just learned driving in a >deserted place. I didn't say "learned driving" I said "get a license" You have to learn what's in the manual to pass the test to get the license. >> >> >> That is correct. I don't allow someone to cut into my body until they >> have carefully explained how the whole procedure works and I >understand >> it. I'm surprised you do. >> >There is another difference. I asked 'my' surgeon a simple >question: how >many died in your hands doing this. The number wasn't zero but within >avarage. With other words, I just trust them. It's not a question of trust, it's a question of do I understand what is going to happen. I find post-operative pain a lot easier to bear when I know why it's hurting. > >Yes, but there is a small difference to FreeBSD's use by others: they >are not forced to use FreeBSD and they should be used to RTFM. > >There are so many people out there who do not understand things this >way. Just allow them with some help from others who are willing to help. > Ah, but help on who's terms? Telling a newbie to RTFM for an answer that he asks which is in the manual IS help. Ted