Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> To: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu> Cc: Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>, Scott Blachowicz <scott@statsci.com>, ac199@hwcn.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@freebsd.org>, hoek@hwcn.org, softweyr@xmission.com, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <199708111656.MAA17110@gatekeeper.itribe.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970811120201.298C-100000@Journey2.mat.net>
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Hurt feelings? Not really, I was just pointing out that anyone who believes money is irrelevant is living in a vacuum, and has no grasp on the realities of the world we live in. I am quite sure we would all love to live in a utopian world where there are no monetary limitations, but it's a pipe dream. On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: > > Jamie, that wasn't an adult thing to do. If you feel you have to insult > someone, please go use usenet. This has been an interesting discussion so > far, but your invective doesn't encourage discussion, just hurt feelings. > > > On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > There's also no evidence that what students learn correlates with > > > the amount spent per student. > > > > Please share whatever it is you're smoking. School systems in most states > > are paid for by local property taxes. In wealthy suburbs property values > > are higher, and owners pay a smaller percentage, yet generate more revenue > > than their poor urban counterparts. They avg > 8k/yr/student, with the > > richest being one of the Chicago suburbs with 18k/yr/student. Inner-city > > and rural scools are lucky to see 5k/yr/student. While money is not the > > only factor, it's a huge one. The suburban schools have nice clean well > > lit environments in which to learn, with broad curriculea, and many > > extra-curricular activities. Inner-city and rural schools are lucky to > > have school buildings without holes in the roof and walls. My wife is a > > professional educator, who brings home this stuff, and I read it mostly to > > not be reading something computer related. The educators will tell you > > that while money isn't the only factor in a student's ability to learn and > > succeed, it's a large one. Your politicians are the one's claiming that > > the school's available funds don't make a difference. You go to a school > > where the textbooks are 2 years out of date, and in short supply, a > > library that is mostly non-existant, understaffed, and has no purchasing > > power because textbooks are a priority, a building that's over 50 years > > old, in need of repair, with no available funds for that either, and > > underpaid teachers (who tend to be the worst the educational system has to > > offer, since the better teachers in general go to schools where they don't > > have the limitations, and safety concerns these schools present, and make > > more), and we'll see how well you do. Don't ever claim money makes no > > difference. You're either lying or naive. In the world we live in, money > > always makes a difference. > > > > Jamie Bowden > > > > System Administrator, iTRiBE.net > > > > > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Jamie Bowden System Administrator, iTRiBE.net
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