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Date:      Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:21:00 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        kip.macy@gmail.com
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, jeff@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/amd64 machdep.c trap.c vm_machdep.c src/sys/amd64/conf DEFAULTS src/sys/amd64/linux32 linux32_sysvec.c src/sys/arm/arm trap.c src/sys/arm/conf AVILA src/sys/arm/xscale/i8134x crb_machdep.c src/sys/compat/freebsd32 ...
Message-ID:  <20080313.152100.1530737473.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <b1fa29170803130026n4242436bndb48cc8ff1151959@mail.gmail.com>
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In message: <b1fa29170803130026n4242436bndb48cc8ff1151959@mail.gmail.com>
            "Kip Macy" <kip.macy@gmail.com> writes:
: It has in fact been discussed at great length. The only question was
: the timing.
: 
: Most of us would agree that JeffR's time would be much better spent on
: lock pushdown than arguing about the specifics of KSE removal.

However, he should have sent out a heads up that this was going to
happen to make sure there were no lingering issues or objections.  In
a large project like FreeBSD, you can't go "cowboy" on the tree like
Jeff did.

Warner


: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:23 AM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 06:12:02 am Jeff Roberson wrote:
: >  > jeff        2008-03-12 10:12:02 UTC
: >  >
: >  >   FreeBSD src repository
: >  >
: >  >   Modified files:
: >  >   ...
: >
: > >   Log:
: >  >   Remove kernel support for M:N threading.
: >  >
: >  >   While the KSE project was quite successful in bringing threading to
: >  >   FreeBSD, the M:N approach taken by the kse library was never developed
: >  >   to its full potential.  Backwards compatibility will be provided via
: >  >   libmap.conf for dynamically linked binaries and static binaries will
: >  >   be broken.
: >
: >  While I don't disagree with the change, it might have been nice to have
: >  pre-announced the axeing first.  Even with Alpha (which probably had more
: >  support and which was discussed in person at BSDCan with a lot of developers)
: >  having the removal not actually discussed on the lists at all resulted in
: >  some bumps that could have been easily avoided with a bit more patience on my
: >  part.
: >
: >  --
: >  John Baldwin
: >
: 



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