From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 12 21:25:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D753116A4CE for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C95BE43D5C for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 31074 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2004 04:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by sarajevo with SMTP; 13 Apr 2004 04:25:13 -0000 Received: from pacific.net.sg ([210.24.202.50]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20040413042512.SEYP1186.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@pacific.net.sg>; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:25:12 +0800 Message-ID: <407B6B43.2050507@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:23:31 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040409 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second "RFC" on pkg-data idea for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:25:17 -0000 Hi, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 11:40 PM -0400 4/12/04, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >> What I'd like is some idea of whether this project is worth >> pursuing. If not, then Darren and I will concentrate on some >> other, less disruptive project.... >> >> If this project does not seem like it would be worth the effort, >> then that will be perfectly okay too. Please let me know what >> you think... > > > Note that I am expecting that "silence" means the project is > NOT worth doing. I can not commit these changes without help I would not express it like this. The problems people have with FreeBSD are very different one. Let me explain the very simple problem I alway encounter while working with the ports as a plain user. If some other versions of related packages or ports are installed, the installation process does not complete or even stops just at the spot. It would be real helpfull to users if the package or port system would be able to automatically overcome this problem with installing the needed version in a way that the installed versions stays intact. This could lead to a general system where any number of different versions of a package or port could be installed on the machine without any interferance. The majority of the users does not even realise in what format the packages and ports are stored. As you explain at your site, this is a long termn thing. The horizon of many users does not go this far. Nothing is questioned if the machine is up and running, everything is damned of this is not case. > from some ports-collection experts, and I do not want to risk This is a comment from a plain user. Erich