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Date:      Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:42:44 -0500
From:      "John Straiton" <jsmailing@clickcom.com>
To:        "'Keith Spencer'" <keith@smmc.qld.edu.au>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: are virtual mail account users possible with sendmail on freebsd
Message-ID:  <001b01c2a2b5$ea28d500$1916c60a@win2k.clickcom.com>
In-Reply-To: <1694.10.0.0.2.1039737221.squirrel@smmcroute.smmc.qld.edu.au>

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IMAP is a method of mail retrieval, Postfix is a MTA like sendmail (it
sends outgoing mail and accepts incoming mail, although it doesn't
actually allow people to retrieve it off the server)

Think of IMAP in a similar way to POP3. Think of Postfix/Sendmail/Exim
like the post office...they'll take your mail, and put mail in your box,
but it's up to you to get it.

http://my.lostinfo.com/files_other/cyrus_imap/
Was my original walkthrough. It's a bit dated now but it might give you
a good overview of what we have in place and running now. 

http://my.lostinfo.com/files_other/courier-imap/
Was my earlier attempt using courier-imap, however I was unsuccessful in
getting the information I needed as to how to get a "black-box" setup
working. It's got a kind of overview of courier as well tho'.


Here's a little flowchart for you... It's generic but you'll get the
idea of how mail flows through the system:

MAIL ->
	Sendmail / Exim / Postfix    
		Accepts the incoming mail via SMTP, sends it on to --->
	Cyrus / Courier-IMAP   or perhaps it just puts it in the
/var/mail files
		like sendmail does
	Outlook / Netscape Mail / Web-based client / Hundreds of *nix
clients
		Allows you to check the mail, via POP3 or IMAP
-->  YOU


John Straiton
jks@clickcom.com
Clickcom, Inc
704-365-9970x101 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Spencer [mailto:keith@smmc.qld.edu.au] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:54 PM
> To: jsmailing@clickcom.com
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: are virtual mail account users possible with 
> sendmail on freebsd
> 
> 
> Hi and thanks John,
> Yes I know how to setup mysql...Is imap or postfix (whatever 
> does the job...imap I guess if I dont bother about smtp auth) 
> easy to get to auth with mysql? what do I need where do I 
> look perhaps a tute? Any reason postfix is a better option 
> than imap? Appreciate input...thanks heaps Keith
> 
> > Sendmail isn't what gives someone POP3 access. Something 
> like Qpopper 
> > does.
> >
> > However, most of the sendmail+(something) combinations 
> you're going to 
> > find are going to require you to build "full blown" 
> accounts for each 
> > user. While they do not have to have shell access, they will have a 
> > /home directory and an entry in your /etc/passwd.
> >
> > If you're trying to avoid that, you'll have to use a different POP3 
> > server and I'd recommend a different MTA than sendmail. What you're 
> > looking to do (email accounts without user accounts) is sometimes 
> > called a "black-box" setup.
> >
> > We use a combination of Postfix to replace sendmail and Cyrus to do 
> > POP3/IMAP. You can also do this with Courier-IMAP. Both are in the 
> > /usr/ports/mail tree. Exim is another popular replacement 
> for sendmail 
> > and works well with either Cyrus or Courier-IMAP.
> >
> > With a simple shell script and pw, you could add all those 
> accounts to 
> > the machine if necessary, but if you use one of these other methods 
> > you'd probably wind up wanting to use a LDAP or Database 
> back end to 
> > store all that information.
> >
> > Hope this gets you started.
> >
> > John Straiton
> > jks@clickcom.com
> > Clickcom, Inc
> > 704-365-9970x101
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Keith 
> >> Spencer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:59 PM
> >> To: fbsd
> >> Subject: are virtual mail account users possible with sendmail on 
> >> freebsd
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am wondering how I can add mail acocunts without
> >> actually creating full-blown user accounts for my lan
> >> users.
> >> I have sendmail on fbsd 4.7 (new build machine and I
> >> dont want to create shell accnts for all my users on
> >> this new machine)
> >> Whatever help you might give me perhaps I can use
> >> webmin to add the new users... I have 600 users to
> >> add.
> >> Whoa...thats a lot of work..HELP???!!
> >> Thanks so much in adavnce
> >> Keith
> >>
> > http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings
> > - Send your seasons greetings online this year!
> >
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> 
> Keith Spencer BSc Bed
> ++++++++++++++++++
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> keith@smmc.qld.edu.au
> www.smmc.qld.edu.au
> St Margaret Mary's College
> Townsville, Australia
> +++++++++++++++++++
> 
> 
> 
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