Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:27:17 -0600 From: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? Message-ID: <0a408c30-98ba-7816-7d8d-917942426534@Wilcox-Tech.com> In-Reply-To: <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6gVcvqK2S1Wk3UDfvbVXLa0gGBaV2FDNO Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ElK4o4xXz8u0VKu9sQSLHjDxqZk9lYzkT"; protected-headers="v1" From: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <0a408c30-98ba-7816-7d8d-917942426534@Wilcox-Tech.com> Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? References: <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201902181650.x1IGoRsZ006131@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> --ElK4o4xXz8u0VKu9sQSLHjDxqZk9lYzkT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/18/19 10:50, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Rodney W. Grimes < >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 07:12:24AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >>>>>> On 2/18/19 12:06 PM, Stefan Blachmann wrote: >>>>>>> On 2/18/19, Vladimir Kondratyev <vladimir@kondratyev.su> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2019-02-17 21:03, Steve Kargl wrote: >>>>>>>>> Anyone have insight into what evdev is? >>>>>>>> evdev.ko is a small in-kernel library that makes all your input >>> events >>>>>>>> like keyboard presses libinput-compatible. That's... wrong. evdev has nothing to do with libinput. Rather, it can be used by libinput, but I never once used libinput on FreeBSD/X11. I used xf86-input-evdev. evdev is a generic event device subsystem originated in the Linux kernel.= > But it DOES work, I am pretty sure we have 1000's of users on that 5 ye= ar > old hardware that are totally happy with the intree DRM2 that is in sta= ble/12, > and some of whom have ventured into head/13 are having issues with the > "new" model (ie kmod broken by a base commit). >=20 > I think one serious problem here is the summary dismissal of things > simply on the "5 year old" basis. Not everyone, and infact few now > a days other than corporate buyers, can afford new hardware,=20 > giving the minimal performance increase in systems over the last 5 > years the cost/benifit factor of a new computer is just too low. That's the primary reason I don't focus on FreeBSD any more, and the primary reason when I have sudden time crunches, FreeBSD stuff is the first to go out the window. It's not that I don't like FreeBSD any more, it's that it just doesn't fit in with my ideas on how a system project should be run, or how it should prioritise. And that isn't really a comment on FreeBSD, nor me, it's just a statement. Everyone's different. Perhaps all the people who are upset at FreeBSD becoming the next OS X (you must have hardware *this* *new* to run!) should start putting more effort in to keeping the old hardware alive and working in the processes defined by FreeBSD. Make proposals, participate and communicate on MLs (instead of just complain), etc. This is all just observations I've made over the last few months of reading -current and not really contributing much. Apologies if I'm off the mark on any of this. Best to you and yours, --arw --=20 A. Wilcox (awilfox) Open-source programmer (C, C++, Python) https://code.foxkit.us/u/awilfox/ --ElK4o4xXz8u0VKu9sQSLHjDxqZk9lYzkT-- --6gVcvqK2S1Wk3UDfvbVXLa0gGBaV2FDNO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEjNyWOYPU1SaTSMHHyynLUZIrnRQFAlxq6vUACgkQyynLUZIr nRSuSRAAqdP6BNs4xAEPHo32YALg790rxcm9bS7a/MgHxS7/vBVMLuaOvn3x1Itd Xv+nHMEqzS2repj36KkovXg8Y3+wwQR2JqQyfInq/4eXU+/kGtZij7P/kQO1acM8 KQ/CdJKf1jkit240OARzdeJNm+a5kdgTfYIiYonGqHZEzKTsNYtN+B1mtNQoZclr hARoHefEclyMaD9a53JfRa7XHE2n3/PXsWNftNYWBSj52rml4bR2eW5MYox1fY/D dYTW/qceh/Nu2Wkj4Mn0Co5Sedz0a4akrUGZsDqHZXodWB/lMO9he+I32OAtmxnL 3WLnTR1Opd8qCdYXhL5buxbc3Fwf8qbXT1/GFqed9CRoTJH0KLtKHNkTBnDzXE/O nseoUHQT2V4yHZ9WNZA1oSLIJuozwPDErmw4bPDKTvwOBYuH+ZIfiqniwoOKXKHn /FufKnILVcZZr7K3Z30LGXKiD8dp3uoKC/fgWk0Zz4xpyy2IJFHgHz4PIyaP9+l8 E9lVero2LnMV1/fEGuwu5PlKDBWZgdtEX+s/8v/nVpWS63nZintwjaAWmpJ8F2lj PZsz6AzeiT0eaoDskUmITtJtftZ36iYxXxA5Cdh6YKH1VnQr2CDqXTjHPc+9zVad NmYGwmJm9LDNJ24CkzAXYmC+ckWhspbUAZyTjSkziP1Nx0lp86M= =++Kz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6gVcvqK2S1Wk3UDfvbVXLa0gGBaV2FDNO--
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