From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 23 05:18:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1139E16A4DD for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E8743D45 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2172100wxd for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VEVgukng5bvuJurZsQfnLWQIBoo4pzdFVpGvHBXh6u/HU5wBII5Q+n9O1Qs7nFGEoxWqj1CdgLKzXIscifXPndsU4Gc2mhZhwujcL7pfpLp3Fy82ZztdPTBk52+fwNQ5n6T00vhAvPA2li0/0R2QVpsbS8JtO0hnFf/P+P2+azs= Received: by 10.70.98.17 with SMTP id v17mr12948023wxb; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:16:31 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Dan Langille" In-Reply-To: <44EA7F69.19142.15E3A89F@dan.langille.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44EA7769.10714.15C4665C@dan.langille.org> <1322895895.20060822093156@rulez.sk> <44EA7F69.19142.15E3A89F@dan.langille.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: FreeBSD's SVG logos are broken(was Re: FreeBSD Logo) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:18:10 -0000 On 8/22/06, Dan Langille wrote: > On 22 Aug 2006 at 9:31, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > > > Hello Dan, > > > > Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 9:18:01 AM, you wrote: > > > > > On 21 Aug 2006 at 23:14, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > > >> On 8/21/06, Mitch wrote: > > >> > I'm not sure if something as already been fixed, but it looks fine on > > >> > all my browsers (firefox on freebsd, linux, windows, konqueror on > > >> > freebsd, ie6 on windows). > > >> > > >> IE6 and Konqueror don't have, native, SVG support... lets recap: > > >> > > >> FreeBSD's SVG logos are broken. They do not "render" correctly in > > >> browsers with native SVG support, AFAIK Firefox 1.5 and Opera 9 are > > >> the only browsers with "native" SVG support. > > >> > > >> If you do have a browser with "native" SVG support try viewing the SVG > > >> logo here: http://www.freebsd.org/logo/logo-basic.svg > > >> > > >> If you don't have a browser with "native" SVG support here are > > >> screenshots of the bad logos: > > >> http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/firefox_01.png > > >> http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/opera_01.png > > > > > Opera 9.01 on Windows NT renders it just fine. > > > > I'm using Opera 9.01 on Windows XP and it does not render well. I can > > see weird colors in the logo, a mix of yellow, orange and red and > > black. If anybody is interested in screenshot, I can capture it :-) > > The errors of my ways have been highlighted. Ignore my previous > claim please. > After more fiddling I still can't get the SVG logo(s) to display correctly. It will only display correctly in Adobe products. I've tried Inkscape, Karbon14, Opera 9, and Firefox 1.5... I even opened up the original Adobe Illustrator file in Illustrator CS2 and re-exported it to SVG. no dice! zero! nill! nothing! I even played with all the Illustrator SVG export settings. We have a decision to make. Do we keep the bad logo(s) in the SVG file or pitch them? If we can't view or use the logos on FreeBSD or Linux why do we keep them.... only people with Adobe + Windows or Mac can see them. Here's what I think we should do: 1. Slice and dice the master logo-basic.ai file so that each logo has it's own discrete file. 2. Each logo file will then be download-able in different file formats: .AI, .EPS, .SVG, .TIF, and/or anything else you can think of. 3. Redesign the logo.html page to accommodate all the new files. I have Adobe Illustrator CS2, Photoshop CS2, etc. and I'm willing to do this for the group, but only if I get some kind of official nod. I don't want to waste my time doing all of this work and not have them put on the website. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/