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Date:      Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:34:21 +0100
From:      "Jeff Rollin" <jeff.rollin@gmail.com>
To:        "Andy Ruhl" <acruhl@gmail.com>
Cc:        misc@openbsd.org, "Charles M. Hannum" <mycroft@mit.edu>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se>, miros-discuss@mirbsd.org
Subject:   Re: The future of NetBSD
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On 31/08/06, Andy Ruhl <acruhl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/31/06, Charles M. Hannum <mycroft@mit.edu> wrote:
> > Actually, defining (poorly) the OS to include so much else has been a
> > liability for NetBSD in many ways.  It has massively slowed the adoption
> > of new software versions (e.g. GCC), for one.  It also contributed to
> > the perception that a better package system and automatic updates were
> > not a serious issue.
>
> It would be interesting to hear more discussion on this.
>
> If there is a continuum that is what the definition of an OS is, with
> a bare kernel on the left and something like SuSE with multiple gigs
> of junk on the right, NetBSD is toward the left. I think consensus is
> among NetBSD people is that this is a good thing. If you want
> something, put it in pkgsrc.


To be fair, it's easy to remove 'junk' from SuSE, and not much harder to
pile junk into a working Gentoo, Slackware or NetBSD installation.

Ironically one complaint that's often voiced at SuSE is that its selection
of rpm junk isn't as extensive as other distros'.

Jeff.



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