From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 25 20:09:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01141 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.konnections.com (mail.konnections.com [192.41.71.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01136 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle (root@ip201.konnections.com [192.41.71.201]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA23716; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:56:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3362CD1F.701E1FA0@konnections.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:50:55 -0700 From: mike allison Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Information Superhighway, etc. (was: Price of FreeBSD) References: <199704222100.PAA00146@xmission.xmission.com> <335EE479.482AB1F2@konnections.com> <199704260125.TAA13305@obie.softweyr.ml.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wes Peters wrote: > > > No, I meant to say that the Eisenhower administration made the decision > to build the interstate highway system and let mass transit rot. This > is why the longest of all US "Interstate" highways is named for > Eisenhower. (Ten net-dollar bonus if you can tell me which I-x0 is the > Eisenhower; the only place I've ever seen it mentioned on a sign is in > Santa Monica, CA.) I'm well aware of what you meant. What I meant was that the tie between mas inner-city transit and the federal highway system is too tenuous since central mass transit was well in place by the beginning of the century. Most of the Freeway system isn't really part of the Eisenhower system. There's a map out in the desert describing the whole thing, I can't remember if it's out by Wendover, or just in the recesses of my imagination, that talks about the system and how it was started. It had to do with Eisenhower's concern that you couldn't drive a military convoy across the country, or that the roads we're not in equal (dis) repair nationwide. Remember too that there wasn't much commercial air travel at the time either. I had some more to say, but I can't remember what the hell we were even talking about ... : -} > > Since most of the habitable (and much of the inhabitable) land in the > eastern U.S. had already been settled by this time, they have suffered > far less from sprawling suburbanization than western cities. The > growing traffic and air pollution problems in formerly "pristine" > western cities such as Denver, Phoenix, and our own beloved Salt Lake > City is the result of these short-sighted policies. Salt Lake City hasn't had a far sighted planner since Brigham Young, and he had some questionable ideas, as well..... > > I also believe the term Info Superhiway was around before '92.... could > > be wrong... > > It was coined as part of then-Senator Gores proposal for the "National > Information Infrastructure," introduced by Sen. Gore in the Senate in (I > think) late 1990. I don't know the derivation of the term "infobahn", > but it followed soon after, and was originally used derisively. I really wanted to say that that term was independent of Al Gore, but the more I thought about it, the more it came to me that it was an early nineties thing and could have been Gore. Seems a bit too colourful a term for Our Man Al...... Now what are we going to talk about? -mike