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Date:      Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:40:46 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        <rshea@thecubagroup.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, <s.cass@ieee.org>
Subject:   RE: IEEE Journalist looking for facts about Microsoft use of BSD code
Message-ID:  <001901c0fa36$3f7cdee0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010621093101.9AC701FA222@deborah.paradise.net.nz>

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:-)

It just occurred to me - do you suppose that Microsoft actually
uses Visual C++ for compiling their own code?

I remember a number of years ago I worked at Symantec after
it acquired Central Point.  At the time Symantec sold a C
compiler.  They had been attempting to get their internal
developers to standardize on this instead of other vendor's
C compilers.  Very few groups ever did and the ones that did
were most displeased with the result.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Shea [mailto:rshea@thecubagroup.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:31 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; s.cass@ieee.org
>Subject: RE: IEEE Journalist looking for facts about Microsoft use of
>BSD code
>
>
>
>> 
>>   However, if you want something authoratative, allegedly the
>> winsock.h header file for Windows contains the following:
>> 
>> /* WINSOCK.H--definitions to be used with the WINSOCK.DLL
>>  * Copyright 1993 - 1998 Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved.
>>  *
>>  * This header file corresponds to version 1.1 of the Windows Sockets
>> specification.
>>  *
>>  * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents
>>  * of the University of California.  All rights reserved.  The
>>  * Berkeley Software License Agreement specifies the terms and
>>  * conditions for redistribution.
>>  */
>> 
>I've got Visual C++ Version 6.0 (copyright is 1998) and I can 
>confirm - that 
>notice certainly does appear in that header file ... wow do you 
>think I just 
>broke my EULA by telling you that !
>
>regards
>richard shea.
>
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