From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 27 10:45:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9248615573 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29459; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:01:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jeff Baker Cc: "M. L. Dodson" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adopt a newbie program In-Reply-To: <199908271726.CAA01419@bow.portal.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Jeff Baker wrote: > Hi ML, > starting to get it now.....this is a cult group, with deeply religious > roots, which explains the speaking in tongues (jibberish), and the > initiation ceremonies ....it's all making sense now....;-) My experiance is that I became sick of being spoon fed something I hated, that didn't work, that wasn't flexible enough and so fragile that a single mistake would break so many "behind the scenes" bits that the only way to fix it was a complete re-install. And I was paying for this privledge? I'm still kicking myself. Now I get most of my stuff for free, the only payment I make is educating myself. I'm a much happier person. > My mistake, what I actually wanted was a secure (better than Bill$) intranet > server, didnt realise I needed to understand philosophy as well as > jibberish. :-) It's only jibberish because you haven't invested the time in reading the documentation, it's more jibberish to me that one must reboot a server in order to change the DNS settings. > I must do more reading.......I must do more reading.....I must do more > reading. (3 hail mounts here) Yes. > BTW could any one slip a "how to setup an intranet server" page under my > door, so I can put it on the top of my reading pile.......that way I can do > some real work as well, and get to real reading when my reading age has > improved a little, reinforced by a positive learning experince. No, unfortunatly you sound like someone who's just discovered "tracert" and starts asking how to setup his own ISP. Take some clases or read some, books, learning by osmosis doesn't work, I've chucked many a book at a newbie hoping so, unfortunatly it just doesn't work... you have to want to learn. Seriously, would you want someone to operate on you when all through medical school the only thing they were willing to read was "Brain Surgery for Dummies"? > I must do more reading.......I must do more reading.....I must do more > reading.(3 hail mounts here) > > I must do more reading.......I must do more reading.....I must do more > reading.(3 hail mounts here) > > I must do more reading.......I must do more reading.....I must do more > reading.(3 hail mounts here) Yes, taking some classes or treating a local guru out to dinner several times as a trade for some experiance might also help. good luck, -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message