From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 13 19:05:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B75F1065673 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53458FC12 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mBDJ5ffw060887 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mBDJ5ffw060887 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1229195149; bh=Z7+bB2eNoVPc+m S/+fw0AucJUrSFAqxws2OyOvPZVrg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4944077F.9000701@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 013=20Dec=202008=2019:05:35=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Release=20s chedules|References:=20<200811121259.25046.jonathan+freebsd-questio ns@hst.org.za>=09<20081112120147.GA62386@slackbox.xs4all.nl>=09=09<18754.4 2851.295211.155980@jerusalem.litteratus.org>=09<4ad871310812121028m 4e368da4n69e06d592e312eb0@mail.gmail.com>=09<26ddd1750812121113o159 0d54r9962ec3d22a20bdb@mail.gmail.com>=09<4ad871310812121128y18db1c1 9n8aa45dcc75794739@mail.gmail.com>=09<26ddd1750812121149r6581ace1ge c21e415afe3deca@mail.gmail.com>=09=20<20081212155145.1618810a@scorpio>|In -Reply-To:=20<20081212155145.1618810a@scorpio>|X-Enigmail-Version:= 200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256= 3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enig57E53217F0B29EDE68D8538B"; b=FvPaRzBiIrv9EUsN N/I1GyYn5NVtim10h1CiOcpD+qdmqvho1PZJNxzgQ3ybXqGd5eBcWw2cTMq0/VDbKVH l+irpsrUY7iDDkaqKV7YsPJ2NwfOq57jIBM9HKUEgglmNx+9pcQ5XdrxElua0u8r+Qf Zu7QRvlgar5y1OQ6F1+NM= Message-ID: <4944077F.9000701@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200811121259.25046.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20081112120147.GA62386@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <18754.42851.295211.155980@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4ad871310812121028m4e368da4n69e06d592e312eb0@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750812121113o1590d54r9962ec3d22a20bdb@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310812121128y18db1c19n8aa45dcc75794739@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750812121149r6581ace1gec21e415afe3deca@mail.gmail.com> <20081212155145.1618810a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081212155145.1618810a@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig57E53217F0B29EDE68D8538B" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Release schedules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:05:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig57E53217F0B29EDE68D8538B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerry wrote: > My biggest gripe with the entire update schedule is that the ports > freeze has been frozen longer than my wife. Maybe having two separate > ports, one for the current version and one for the RC? version might > work better. I have never fully understood why the ports had to be > frozen anyway. Why can there not be two separate entities, the current > version and the beta one? Ports aren't actually frozen at the moment. Neither are they completely open for any sort of updates. Instead they're in a 'slush' -- no sweepin= g changes permitted, no major changes to the infrastructure (ie. bsd.ports.= mk, that sort of thing). This allows the RELEASE_7_1_0 tag to be slid forwar= d in the event of critical or security updates to specific ports. For instanc= e, see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/Makefile= ?only_with_tag=3DRELEASE_7_1_0 That update was committed two days ago, and as it's a security update it = has been tagged as RELEASE_7_1_0, so will in principle appear on the 7.1-isos= =2E (I can't remember if phpmyadmin actually is one of the packages available on= the install CDs or not. Given its popularity, quite possibly.) Docs are in a similar 'slush' state, but in this case it's primarily to a= llow the various translation teams to synch the various language versions to t= he original language the docco was written in (almost always English, but no= t entirely) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig57E53217F0B29EDE68D8538B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAklEB4UACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx7hwCggSj46Zigeb0DsSNXX1LdRTL6 p2kAnjUaN91OmX0l42iVT5nD3M55WeRS =LMR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig57E53217F0B29EDE68D8538B--