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Date:      Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:32:16 +0100
From:      Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
To:        Pat Lynch <lynch@bsdunix.net>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups
Message-ID:  <19990925133215.A35268@lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909241831490.13093-100000@bytor.rush.net>
References:  <199909241014.MAA91015@gratis.grondar.za> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909241831490.13093-100000@bytor.rush.net>

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Pat Lynch wrote:

> DUL, while I'm not sure whether we should take this to -chat or not since
> we are now getting into noise on the -current list, is also a good thing.
> simply because noone on a dialup has reason to be sending mail directly to
> me, they should be sending it through thier ISP's mail servers. 

There are reasons not to use an ISP's smarthost. First, I have no idea
how long my mail will stay there. Second, if my mail can't be delivered
to the other end immediately, I'd rather be able to find out why by
checking my logs. Third, my ISP's smarthost has occasionally been
blacklisted by ORBS because it relays mail for its customers, some of
whom are running open relays. (This is a completely ridiculous action on
ORBS' part, IMO, but that's a discussion for somewhere else.)

So far at least, I have never had any problems sending mail from my
dialup (which has a static IP address -- I think static IP dialups are
exempt from many dialup blocking lists), and I hope this will continue.

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