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Date:      Mon, 8 May 2017 11:23:01 -0700
From:      "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: filemon: weird full-time build although filemon enabled
Message-ID:  <557CD2F0-4E32-41EE-A0A9-DF5D8C189E83@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20170506092255.083828f8@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de>
References:  <20170506092255.083828f8@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de>

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> On May 6, 2017, at 00:22, O. Hartmann <ohartmann@walstatt.org> wrote:
>=20
> I build CURRENT on two technically similar systems on a almost daily =
basis. Therefore, it
> was a great relief having WITH_META_MODE=3Dyes set in =
/etc/src-env.conf for incremental
> builds. To make my understanding of this clear (just in case I'm =
wrong): setting
> WITH_META_MODE builds only portions that does not need to be build in =
the make context.
>=20
> Well, the reason writing this email is: on one system, I run almost =
every reboot into a
> "full build" and this puzzles me a bit. The long-lasting and time =
exhausting builds are
> within the LLVM/CLANG tree. They consume a lot of time. The box in =
question does have a
> weak CPU, only two physical cores, four threads, 8GB of RAM and builds =
the /usr/obj
> residing on a SSD. The reference machine does have the same =
motherboard, also a SSD, but
> has 16 GB RAM and a 4-core/8 threads XEON CPU - but both are =
"IvyBridge". The XEON
> usually needs 30 - 40 minutes to compile a full world/kernel from a =
clean /usr/obj, the
> "weak" box takes approximately 120 minutes - it is understandable that =
a shortage of the
> build time is appreciated.
>=20
> Well, having said this, I need to mention that both systems use almost
> identical /etc/src.conf setting - except the order of appearance of =
the WITH_ tags. In
> fact, they are identical except the KERNCONF (naming of the kernel) =
and PORTS_MODULES=3D,
> the "weak" box incorporates x11/nvidia-driver and =
emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod, so these
> modules are build every time the system gets rebuild, but the time =
taken by those is
> negligible.
>=20
> The problem: to make my point clear: the "weak" box starts compiling =
almost everytime now
> the LLVM/CLANG tree while the XEON box does not. This is spooky.
>=20
> I deleted on both  systems recently /usr/obj completely from its =
content and restarted a
> buildworld again to hope, that the problem was introduced due to some =
files
> necessary for the BSD make environment to indicate the incremental =
build. But no success.
> Even more spooky is the fact, that after a build on the "weak" box and =
a build again, the
> box bevaves as expected not rebuilding everything again, but in some =
cases after a
> reboot, a rebuild the hits again the build of LLVM/CLANG tree, while =
the XEON box does
> not.
>=20
> I think there is something missing an I'd like to ask what is the =
suggested way to
> initially restart a full build to ensure that WITH_META_MODE gets =
initialised correctly.
>=20
> Well, I'm not a developer, so please be patient with my naive report.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,

	Dumb question: which kernel are you using on which machine =
(GENERIC, GENERIC-NODEBUG, a custom kernel with or without debug hooks, =
e.g., INVARIANTS, enabled)? Also, how are you building the system =
(locally using UFS or ZFS, remotely, e.g., over NFS, etc)?
Thanks,
-Ngie

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