From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 06:26:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744F89AA37D; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9911AA8; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t6P6QqpU002495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id t6P6QpQN002494; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:51 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Scott Long Cc: Mark R V Murray , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r284959 - in head: . share/man/man4 share/man/man9 sys/conf sys/dev/glxsb sys/dev/hifn sys/dev/random sys/dev/rndtest sys/dev/safe sys/dev/syscons sys/dev/ubsec sys/dev/virtio/random sy... Message-ID: <20150725062651.GU78154@funkthat.com> References: <201506301700.t5UH0jPq001498@svn.freebsd.org> <20150724012519.GE78154@funkthat.com> <96EA33AB-7325-4DD2-83F4-B4FAF6F47CB5@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <96EA33AB-7325-4DD2-83F4-B4FAF6F47CB5@yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:26:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:26:53 -0000 Scott Long wrote this message on Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 23:06 -0600: > > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:59 AM, Mark R V Murray wrote: > > > >> On 24 Jul 2015, at 02:25, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > >> Heck, piping in mic data to /dev/random is a good way to seed the > >> rng on many machines. > > > > Well, sure, but what if you don???t have microphone? I want lots > > of choices, in anticipation of only a subset being usable. > > I still think that for most use cases where you have a high likelyhood > of draining /dev/random of useful bits, you???re likely already on a tight Once you have enough useful bits in /dev/random, you can NEVER run out of useful bits from /dev/random... [Well, not quite NEVER, but not for a few millennia.] -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."