From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 15 03:04:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0774265 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (si-004-i115.relay.mailchannels.net [198.20.121.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533121247 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|env-sender|fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (ip-10-227-128-69.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.227.128.69]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DC1BE605CA for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:04:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|env-sender|fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.248.1.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.0.19); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:04:37 GMT X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cenv-sender%7Cfbsd8%40a1poweruser.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia Received: from [192.168.102.100] (UnknownHost [111.125.78.19]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:04:29 -0800 Message-ID: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions Subject: Motorola SB5101u cable modem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:04:46 -0000 Having very slow speeds on my LAN. Looking for cause. I have a D-link DIR-655 10/100/1000 router behind the cable modem. The specs on this Motorola SB5101u cable modem states it has 10/100 mbps, but then it also says "internet download speeds up to 38 mbps and upload speeds up 30 mbps. I am paying my ISP for 4 gbps down and 2 gbps up service. Is this Motorola SB5101u cable modem a bottleneck causing my slow lan speeds? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 15 03:36:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE26F994 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 925481435 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:36:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=ZQnRPy0kEUjAMJ1Qy31eGZWqLZPAFfmdxhN6vzqdqjM=; b=KFMcp9JcyMZPHW30h9ult3+t2S/T0FH7L+Xs/Zvx6j7yfuyV7TweS4JEqGfR1i32BJPA/bOMjHyXll2s9k+HsI0/HVvWiym2W/PIvQzE7BDk0VgTyLHglmqk0EzK8mOvYYsd/cdRlvWBqP3mBCG7ruJOISIlMUa6noqltU0Xujc=; Received: from [120.180.124.38] (port=64509 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs2VO-0015IW-S5; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:36:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:36:29 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Motorola SB5101u cable modem Message-ID: <20131215113629.5b830397@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> References: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 03:36:36 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 Fbsd8 wrote: > Having very slow speeds on my LAN. Looking for cause. > I have a D-link DIR-655 10/100/1000 router behind the cable modem. > The specs on this Motorola SB5101u cable modem states it has 10/100 > mbps, but then it also says "internet download speeds up to 38 mbps > and upload speeds up 30 mbps. > I am paying my ISP for 4 gbps down and 2 gbps up service. > Is this Motorola SB5101u cable modem a bottleneck causing my slow lan > speeds? your internal network would only be able to cope with 4gbps if it would be a 10gbps network. If you have a load balancer, you could use several 1gbps connections in parallel. I think that it is not possible with reasonable cost to achieve 4gbps on the internal network. Erich > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 15 05:20:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7A1870F for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from transbay.net (transbay.net [208.184.217.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE1571956 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.10.176] (ecsd.transbay.net [208.76.28.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by transbay.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBF5Ki2T002791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 21:20:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52AD3C12.301@transbay.net> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 21:20:18 -0800 From: Eric Dynamic User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: concerning loader.conf(5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:20:51 -0000 There's the issue where you move disks from installed system A to a different motherboard and the system can't boot because it remembers the old system's device names. Where is the fix for this documented? I examined /boot/defaults/loader.conf and I believe the lines in question - for a /boot/loader.conf file I would create as the override for the problem are these: #currdev="disk1s1a" # Set the current device #root_disk_unit="0" # Force the root disk unit number #rootdev="disk1s1a" # Set the root filesystem I'll guess that "rootdev" is all I need to specify, or possibly "currdev" as well. I have this nit to pick: the loader.conf man page does NOT describe these labels at all, and the Online Manual in describing the boot process makes no mention of this mechanism, either. Moreover, there is no "/boot/loader.conf" file because by default it isn't needed until it is needed; but in looking at /boot/defaults/loader.conf it contains all commented-out lines line the ones above, and I can't tell where the system is making the determination as to what device it was installed on to begin with - namely, where IS the system storing the memory of what disk it wishes to try to load the system from? If the system calculated that based on the (in-disk-label) stated identity of the disk the boot process boots from, then the paradox is that even though the system's CPU-level boot came from the device, e.g. /dev/ad1s1a, even if the disk is internally labeled as e.g. "ad0s1a", why would not the loader just automatically assume that ad1s1a is now "the cheese"? I've looked from time to time for the writeup about this issue and have never been able to find it a second time. Thanks in advance for any clarification or references you can offer. -ecsd (Eric Dynamic) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 15 05:48:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39635AB7 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1F11A80 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBF5mRAG034231; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:48:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rBF5mQbi034228; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:48:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:48:26 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Eric Dynamic Subject: Re: concerning loader.conf(5) In-Reply-To: <52AD3C12.301@transbay.net> Message-ID: References: <52AD3C12.301@transbay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:48:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:48:29 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Eric Dynamic wrote: > There's the issue where you move disks from installed system A to a > different motherboard > and the system can't boot because it remembers the old system's device > names. > Where is the fix for this documented? Labels are the easiest fix, a static name that sticks with a partition or filesystem regardless of changing device numbers. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html GPT labels are the preferred method, although that section does not mention them yet. UFS labels work well also. > I examined /boot/defaults/loader.conf and I believe the lines in > question - for a /boot/loader.conf > file I would create as the override for the problem are these: > #currdev="disk1s1a" # Set the current device > #root_disk_unit="0" # Force the root disk unit number > #rootdev="disk1s1a" # Set the root filesystem > I'll guess that "rootdev" is all I need to specify, or possibly > "currdev" as well. > I have this nit to pick: the loader.conf man page does NOT describe > these labels at all, > and the Online Manual in describing the boot process makes no mention > of this mechanism, > either. The only one likely to be needed is vfs.root.mountfrom, which may need to be set to the UFS filesystem that contains /etc/fstab. 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Looking for cause. > I have a D-link DIR-655 10/100/1000 router behind the cable modem. > The specs on this Motorola SB5101u cable modem states it has 10/100 > mbps, but then it also says "internet download speeds up to 38 mbps and > upload speeds up 30 mbps. > I am paying my ISP for 4 gbps down and 2 gbps up service. > Is this Motorola SB5101u cable modem a bottleneck causing my slow lan > speeds? If you are paying for a 4/2 Gbps connection but your cable modem can connect your LAN to ISP at 0.038/0.03 Gbps only, then you are wasting money. The bad news are that although DOCSIS 3.1 (cable modem standard, like ethernet) allows 10Gbps modems, the faster ones works at 4 Gbps and were presented some moths ago. They will not be cheap when they become available next year(2014). Are you sure it's a 4/2 Gigabps connection and not a 4/2 Megabps ? The connection on your LAN is managed by the D-LINK router where I suppose you connect your equipment. What speeds do you get? --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 01:54:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 558AED9E for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x246.google.com (mail-vc0-x246.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12F1F1518 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f198.google.com with SMTP id ld13so8048155vcb.1 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 17:54:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to:content-type; 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<20131215120904.bb12e950e8e6d0f28d371caa@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20131215120904.bb12e950e8e6d0f28d371caa@yahoo.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:45:02 -0000 Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 > Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Having very slow speeds on my LAN. Looking for cause. >> I have a D-link DIR-655 10/100/1000 router behind the cable modem. >> The specs on this Motorola SB5101u cable modem states it has 10/100 >> mbps, but then it also says "internet download speeds up to 38 mbps and >> upload speeds up 30 mbps. >> I am paying my ISP for 4 gbps down and 2 gbps up service. >> Is this Motorola SB5101u cable modem a bottleneck causing my slow lan >> speeds? > > If you are paying for a 4/2 Gbps connection but your cable modem can connect your LAN to ISP at 0.038/0.03 Gbps only, >then you are wasting money. The bad news are that although DOCSIS 3.1 (cable modem standard, like ethernet) >allows 10Gbps modems, the faster ones works at 4 Gbps and were presented some moths ago. They will not be cheap when >they become available next year(2014). Are you sure it's a 4/2 Gigabps connection and not a 4/2 Megabps ? > > The connection on your LAN is managed by the D-LINK router where I suppose you connect your equipment. >What speeds do you get? > Sorry my bad, I checked and thats 4 mbps down and 2 mbps up that I am paying for. My PC has "N" mode nic and I get 130 mbps wifi connection. My www.speedtest.net test is 1.24 mbps down and .82 mbps up between Cleveland Ohio and Angeles City Philippines. My ISP is Comclark.com Angeles City Philippines. So I come back to the question is the internet download speeds up to 38 mbps and upload speeds up 30 mbps of the Motorola SB5101u cable modem acting as a bottleneck? Is there a better cable modem that is not limited I should be asking my ISP if I can use? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 12:20:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B19092F7 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 857A91AC4 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:20:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=MMC2eeCoLHvbeXM9w01grY2sounAMyD3osmcP38y7Sg=; b=Q+ePqIFRNDOBYtS31k6v3a4clzCAyXNbBwxfWdpAu8XbcDPwlJcGlp9FU0dw95JkiFfzKlRLtZu4ZwM9WB+s7wiLx1UdDFn35KV0ujKjUojX52M4BLNXDabX0FBocfg4vsWpRaNoZdugFhck6X202r0c3YsRQFEU/4moXjNPMDQ=; Received: from [120.180.110.69] (port=20470 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VsXA3-002Czx-FH; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 05:20:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:20:07 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Motorola SB5101u cable modem Message-ID: <20131216202007.63487854@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52AEE796.2060601@a1poweruser.com> References: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> <20131215120904.bb12e950e8e6d0f28d371caa@yahoo.es> <52AEE796.2060601@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions , Eduardo Morras X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:20:42 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:44:22 +0800 Fbsd8 wrote: > Eduardo Morras wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 > > Fbsd8 wrote: > > > Sorry my bad, I checked and thats 4 mbps down and 2 mbps up that I am > paying for. then your modem is not the bottleneck but the connection is. > My PC has "N" mode nic and I get 130 mbps wifi connection. > My www.speedtest.net test is 1.24 mbps down and .82 mbps up between It is normal that the nominal speed is hardly reached. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 15:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1419C58B for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x22c.google.com (mail-oa0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D46201ADF for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id m1so5202801oag.31 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:48:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xPSeZHWQTqyVvOeRb2PGfAxyte8DxOxkcWW5zHLPX2o=; b=sWUvs7GX6atkjddxx6kuXkCcQCC0rtiE5O1heHyd9IfZn2g0SAa6HMoZQ8nubAft6f 4mY6wDjqbDxEr3CnJrVBpCEVy5wPW+xTuRNkF4G9Tct1QWArqK3R03rkILnYj84nXWF1 4qY8vOT9kImhCy7GWY2coXghBgIBzzScuOrm65I24B+2qERc4dixYSqcFSwq5+HP8+ys ZETyoB9Dgmq7/S+qeD0PKR6KqnfnLC/jmw9HAB9mA4Sft58Wvz7Wu3rkTJ4UZYFSd7lo Q8kdCSgNgzKyAr3ElPq9wd0P8DwvoIHe1HDw8BkpZoGTCqxYr0GuHqT+Ck6XaVB5SzLb dv2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.131.196 with SMTP id oo4mr11920647obb.50.1387208898144; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.168.137 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:48:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:48:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: error messages when updating portmaster From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:48:19 -0000 Dear folks, When updating with # portmaster -a -d I get error messages like: Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64/work/xf86-video-mach64-6.9.4_1.tbz' ===> Installing for xf86-video-mach64-6.9.4_1 ===> Checking if x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64 already installed pkg_add: corrupted record for package xf86-video-mach64-6.9.4_1 (pkgdep line without argument), ignoring pkg_add: leave_playpen: can't chdir back to '' *** [install-package] Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64. pkg_add: leave_playpen: can't chdir back to '' *** [install-package] Error code 2 How can I alleviate this? I have had to run portmaster -a -d for all the xf86-video-* packages that are installed till I finish. Is this is a bug? or just a glitch when using portmaster? 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[62.56.65.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id el8sm11956348wic.8.2013.12.16.10.57.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:57:48 -0800 (PST) From: g8kbvdave@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:57:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: No System sources? Message-ID: <52AF4D2A.13679.1A7A5A9@g8kbvdave.gmail.com> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.62) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:57:51 -0000 Hi All. I'm asking this in a few places, so appologies if you see it elsewhere too... FreeBSD 9.2, base install up and running on a Dell Optiplex GX110, that has a 40G hard drive, 384Meg of RAM, as well as it's P3/666MHz cpu. With some minor tweaks to the shell, so the command line prompt follows me arround the directory structure, after following the guide at:- http://www.a1poweruser.com/ I then a day later, installed a later version of ntp, that is now up and running, sync'ing to internet time. (But my goal, is to use a GPS reciever for it's reference, with the 'net as a fallback.) I have all the needed hardware, and used to have just such a think running on a FBSD8.0 box. But that commited suicide a few months ago. (MoBo hardware failure, that now prevents any OS, other than DOS to install!) However, I failed to notice that by default(?) the FBSD9.x system sources are not installed. So... I'm currently stuck, trying to get them, so I can enable PPS support in the kernel. The old "sysinstall" seems broken, in as much as it cant seem to download anything from anywhere. Where as, the newer "bsdinstall" program, want's to reformat the hard drive and start over each time! I'm sort of reluctant to let it do that. So... How do I get the system sources downloaded in a usable form, so I can enable pps support in the kernel and use that. Or, do I have to trash the system and start over(again?) It seems (also, again) that all the documentation is some way behind even the stable release versions. I can understand that with third party sites, but not the main FreeBSD handbook or other pages. Sorry for the bother... Regards All. Dave B. >><< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 19:21:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F00E29C8 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD487115F for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AEF527904; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:21:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rBGJL7VC002914; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:21:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:21:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: g8kbvdave@googlemail.com Subject: Re: No System sources? Message-Id: <20131216202107.cbe12fcf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52AF4D2A.13679.1A7A5A9@g8kbvdave.gmail.com> References: <52AF4D2A.13679.1A7A5A9@g8kbvdave.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:21:35 -0000 On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 18:57:46 -0000, g8kbvdave@googlemail.com wrote: > I'm currently stuck, trying to get them, so I can enable PPS support in > the kernel. The old "sysinstall" seems broken, in as much as it cant > seem to download anything from anywhere. The sysinstall program isn't significant anymore. :-) > Where as, the newer "bsdinstall" program, want's to reformat the hard > drive and start over each time! Great. :-) > So... > How do I get the system sources downloaded in a usable form, so I can > enable pps support in the kernel and use that. Or, do I have to trash the > system and start over(again?) You can easily use ftp to download the sources for -RELEASE from ftp.freebsd.org (select architecture and version according to what you have installed). It's a .txz compressed archive which you can extract into /usr/src. You could also install svn (Subversion) and use that to obtain the sources. This is what csup (CVS) has been used in the past. > I can understand that with third party > sites, but not the main FreeBSD handbook or other pages. The documentation is now maintained as a port. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 20:30:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F365BE7 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38133192C for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46F712735C for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:23:01 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <52AF6125.3010500@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 06:23:01 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Perl unable to open named pipe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:30:24 -0000 Little left field, but I cannot seem to make this work and it would appear to be peculiar to FreeBSD (although I have no means to test this on another system atm); I'm trying to write a small script of a larger project that uses named pipes for IPC and perl strangely cannot open them. This basically what my script is doing - it is pretty much this short: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use diagnostics; use POSIX qw(mkfifo); if (!open(HANDLE, "<", FIFO)) { if (mkfifo(FIFO)) { print "FIFO created\n"; open(HANDLE, "<", FIFO); } else { die "couldn't create FIFO"; } else { } The script literally hangs when open is called. Diagnostics gives no clue to what could be the issue. I've tried unless instead of if (so die can be called and an error can be printed). And I've put messages in to see where it gets to in the script, and that confirms the position of the stall. I've also tried on an ordinary text file - it works, but just not FIFO! Any clues? 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Kind regards, --CJPM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 23:19:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A799359 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24DF1884 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6863617010 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:12:22 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <52AF88D5.4050908@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:12:21 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: connecting servers on lan to internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:19:57 -0000 Aloha, I need to connect 1 mail server, 1 web server to the internet. All running FreeBSD. Currently all servers are on ADM circuit with different IPS.( Like one other recent post the cable speed rate has been lowered to where the servers don't up load any more.) Luckly we will have Fiber Optic cable coming to our lane this March. I want to put the servers behind the router a (FreeBSD) PF firewall on the single telco line with its own IP to make sure the DNS etc works from there before the telco Fiber optic cable gets here. If I NAT the two servers to the lan and direct the DNS to the single line IP will that work? FWIW the Fiber Optic line is actualy higher speed for less cost that I pay for one of my 2 copper lines. Thanks, ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 23:59:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 460337BF for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (si-004-i116.relay.mailchannels.net [198.20.121.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C581D60 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:59:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|env-sender|fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (ip-10-244-196-74.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.244.196.74]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A265A446DB; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:59:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: demandmedia|env-sender|fbsd8@a1poweruser.com Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.246.16.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.0.19); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:59:27 GMT X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: demandmedia%7Cenv-sender%7Cfbsd8%40a1poweruser.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia Received: from [192.168.102.102] (UnknownHost [111.125.78.19]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:59:19 -0800 Message-ID: <52AF93C2.2090801@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:58:58 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Motorola SB5101u cable modem References: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> <20131215120904.bb12e950e8e6d0f28d371caa@yahoo.es> <52AEE796.2060601@a1poweruser.com> <20131216202007.63487854@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20131216202007.63487854@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions , Eduardo Morras X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:59:41 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:44:22 +0800 > Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Eduardo Morras wrote: >>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 >>> Fbsd8 wrote: >>> >> Sorry my bad, I checked and thats 4 mbps down and 2 mbps up that I am >> paying for. > > then your modem is not the bottleneck but the connection is. > >> My PC has "N" mode nic and I get 130 mbps wifi connection. >> My www.speedtest.net test is 1.24 mbps down and .82 mbps up between > > It is normal that the nominal speed is hardly reached. > > Erich > I don't understand this statement, "then your modem is not the bottleneck but the connection is". Please elaborate in greater detail, what connection are you referring to? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 00:13:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 110F2DDF for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D721F1EEA for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:13:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=OHmtcvduuWasQ/m09sCVagtN7oWlR7UlunhzROt5xXM=; b=TiuD9/Wk0a7+OwlO4kxdySen21dkthpwG/XNk6SBuoUmALOXOekChXHgVGRKywoxTvWzyet/EFlDgeQH4E+7wfCPhmNDATa5mOXGz03oghN4p1bSHN6yYtOO0RjpSGz1884qU/CAr0pXcd5nUFeo1hDFmaksjmjCw0MFvo+HxLE=; Received: from [182.2.153.175] (port=14379 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VsiIE-001xYY-GH; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:13:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:13:39 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Motorola SB5101u cable modem Message-ID: <20131217081339.3cdb2f58@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52AF93C2.2090801@a1poweruser.com> References: <52AD1C2C.9060901@a1poweruser.com> <20131215120904.bb12e950e8e6d0f28d371caa@yahoo.es> <52AEE796.2060601@a1poweruser.com> <20131216202007.63487854@X220.alogt.com> <52AF93C2.2090801@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions , Eduardo Morras X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 00:13:49 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:58:58 +0800 Fbsd8 wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:44:22 +0800 > > Fbsd8 wrote: > > > >> Eduardo Morras wrote: > >>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:04:12 +0800 > >>> Fbsd8 wrote: > >>> > >> Sorry my bad, I checked and thats 4 mbps down and 2 mbps up that I > >> am paying for. > > > > then your modem is not the bottleneck but the connection is. > > > >> My PC has "N" mode nic and I get 130 mbps wifi connection. > >> My www.speedtest.net test is 1.24 mbps down and .82 mbps up > >> between > > > > It is normal that the nominal speed is hardly reached. > > > > Erich > > > > I don't understand this statement, > "then your modem is not the bottleneck but the connection is". > Please elaborate in greater detail, what connection are you referring > to? > your connection to the Internet is the slowest element in your chain from the Internet to the PC. Every other piece of equipment is faster than the Internet connection. So, no need for you for any action. That the real speed of your Internet connection is slower than the speed stated in your contract is normal as most providers state the speed that is technically possible. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 02:37:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E06FA0E for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 02:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DBA91C80 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 02:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (host86-161-162-125.range86-161.btcentralplus.com [86.161.162.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBH2bb6h006447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 02:37:38 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <52AFB8F1.8020906@fjl.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 02:37:37 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt Organization: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: connecting servers on lan to internet References: <52AF88D5.4050908@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <52AF88D5.4050908@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank2@fjl.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 02:37:46 -0000 On 16/12/2013 23:12, Al Plant wrote: > I need to connect 1 mail server, 1 web server to the internet. All > running FreeBSD. > > Currently all servers are on ADM circuit with different IPS.( Like one > other recent post the cable speed rate has been lowered to where the > servers don't up load any more.) Luckly we will have Fiber Optic > cable coming to our lane this March. I want to put the servers behind > the router a (FreeBSD) PF firewall on the single telco line with its > own IP to make sure the DNS etc works from there before the telco > Fiber optic cable gets here. > > If I NAT the two servers to the lan and direct the DNS to the single > line IP will that work? Hi AL, What you're trying to do is certainly possible. Taking a guess as to what your setup might be, you'll need need a natd.conf (or whatever you decide to call it) that looks something like this: ----------------------------------- interface rl0 redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.200:25 25 redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.201:80 80 redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.201:443 443 ----------------------------------- The first line is the interface name (realtek in this case). The mail server is on 192.168.1.200 and the web server is on 201. Pretty simple. I assume you've got natd (and dhcpd) working anyway, so you've done the hard bit. I guess you just need confirmation that it will definitely do what you want. Regards, Frank. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 04:03:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E59A65E for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 04:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E2E14DA for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 04:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEA933C22; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 34BEB39830; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: g8kbvdave@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No System sources? References: <52AF4D2A.13679.1A7A5A9@g8kbvdave.gmail.com> <20131216202107.cbe12fcf.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:54:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20131216202107.cbe12fcf.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:21:07 +0100") Message-ID: <44k3f43zf3.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 04:03:38 -0000 Polytropon writes: >> How do I get the system sources downloaded in a usable form, so I can >> enable pps support in the kernel and use that. Or, do I have to trash the >> system and start over(again?) > > You can easily use ftp to download the sources for -RELEASE > from ftp.freebsd.org (select architecture and version according > to what you have installed). It's a .txz compressed archive > which you can extract into /usr/src. > > You could also install svn (Subversion) and use that to > obtain the sources. This is what csup (CVS) has been used > in the past. Yet another choice: freebsd-update(8) can get sources. And there's probably no need to FTP the sources; if they're on the CD it no big deal to extract them from there by hand (no need for the install program). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 05:09:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8F5E4E0 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.aprec.ru (mail.aprec.ru [91.210.204.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072251A12 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.aprec.ru (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B47B81300878; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:03:08 +0400 (MSK) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.aprec.ru X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=9.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from [192.168.1.17] (office.relant.ru [91.210.204.169]) by mail.aprec.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 666051300872 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:03:08 +0400 (MSK) Message-ID: <52AFDB0B.3020603@aprec.ru> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:03:07 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JHQtdC70L7Qs9GD0YDQvtCyINCh0LLRj9GC0L7RgdC70LDQsg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with amanda backup (cannot allocate memory) on FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE amd64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:09:08 -0000 Hello everyone. I've posted this problem on forums.zmanda.com, but without any luck. I think, maybe it's something FreeBSD-specific, or specific to it's version. So, here it is, any help will be greatly appreciated. I have a backup server with amanda-2.4.4p3, which is backup'ing numerous servers with different FreeBSD versions (from 6.x to 8.x, i386, amd64), some Linux machines. Everything works fine. Recently I've upgraded some servers to FreeBSD 9.1-amd64. I've installed amanda-2.4.4p3 on these servers, but when I tried to do backups, they complete with errors, on disk volumes that are larger than 500-1000mb approximately. The error message on client machines was: sendbackup: critical (fatal): index tee cannot write [Broken pipe] I decided, that I'm using too old version of amanda, and it's time to upgrade. I've installed amanda 3.3.4 to our backup server (as an another amanda version, alternative to working one), and to FreeBSD 9.1 clients. I've also installed GNU tar 1.27 on my clients. But, this does not help. I still receive errors on volumes that are larger than 500-1000mb, and backup does not complete. I only get error on /usr volume on problem host, / and /var are backuping normally. I suppose that's because of their size (/ - 740M used, /var - 42M used, /usr - 4.7G used). When I use disklist to exclude some directories on /usr volume (that are using most of it's space) - backup also completes normally. In amgtar.*.debug on client: Sat Dec 7 14:39:28 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: Spawning "/usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar --create --verbose --file - --directory /usr --one-file-system --listed-incremental /usr/local/amanda-3.3.4/var/amanda/gnutar-lists/problem-host_usr_0.new --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals ." in pipeline Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: 84: size(|): Total bytes written: 60026880 (58MiB, ?/s) Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: 0: strange(?): /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar: -: Cannot write: Broken pipe Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: 0: strange(?): /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: after /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar /usr wait Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: amgtar: /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar: pid 19987 Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: /usr/local/gnutar-1.27/bin/tar exited with status 2: see /tmp/amanda/client/org/amgtar.20131207143928000.debugSat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: sendbackup: size 58620 Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c170c0: amgtar: sendbackup: end In amandad.*.debug on clients I get strange error "Cannot allocate memory": Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: opening security stream for fd 50 Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: opening security stream for fd 51 Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: opening security stream for fd 52 Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_close(handle=0x802ca3280, driver=0x800c83680 (BSDTCP)) Sat Dec 7 14:39:33 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_stream_close(0x802d23000) Sat Dec 7 14:39:44 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: tcpm_send_token: data is still flowing Sat Dec 7 14:39:52 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_stream_seterr(0x802d35000, write error to: Cannot allocate memory) Sat Dec 7 14:39:52 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: sending NAK pkt: <<<<< ERROR write error on stream 499999: write error to: Cannot allocate memory >>>>> Sat Dec 7 14:39:52 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_stream_close(0x802d35000) Sat Dec 7 14:39:52 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_stream_close(0x802d3e000) Sat Dec 7 14:39:52 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: security_stream_close(0x802d47000) Sat Dec 7 14:39:53 2013: thd-0x802c17100: amandad: pid 19988 finish time Sat Dec 7 14:39:53 2013 Strange, but that's not explicitly amanda problem. When I use SSH to login to problem machine's console, everything works OK. But when I start to compile some program package from source, or rebuild kernel (when there is much output from "make" to the console), sometimes SSH connection breaks, and when I connect again, I can see message from sshd in logs: "cannot allocate memory" So, maybe it's some bug with memory allocation on my FreeBSD box? How can I check this, or, maybe, someone had already encountered anything similar? -- С уважением, Белогуров Святослав http://relant.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 05:41:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06314472 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6E3F1DBF for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC94160B06; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:59 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1387258859; x=1389073260; bh=LKa6/cCZP H6DPzKqGqlHMZq/eCi1XEtSo04i5UU+NNs=; b=RK140qHG/mFytRrglyJoY0Oso kejmkYxktNVUV1G29rGTkE1EEO90MTAWjw/OfAOZdZPwI9SvlNSj0k/+LHvlMv4R R6hBQioWhSOuKIh0ySPEWlnC/ma6VsfBUQexH58ZMfDmEJ0nObU0KH3brZx2pHCx 6duP4isXD7tOl01lPI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 44OM_RVgKFoR; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:59 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBED7160B02; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id rBH5ewn7089303; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:58 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) From: Olivier Nicole To: =?utf-8?B?0JHQtdC70L7Qs9GD0YDQvtCyINCh0LLRj9GC0L7RgdC70LDQsg==?= Subject: Re: Problem with amanda backup (cannot allocate memory) on FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE amd64 In-Reply-To: <52AFDB0B.3020603@aprec.ru> (slava@aprec.ru) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:40:57 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:41:18 -0000 Hi, > Hello everyone. I've posted this problem on forums.zmanda.com, but > without any luck. I think, maybe it's something FreeBSD-specific, or > specific to it's version. So, here it is, any help will be greatly > appreciated. >From my experience running Amanda server on FreeBSD: - I had to disable jumbo frames on FreeBSD, it seems to slow down the network more than anything; - I noticed I have to update all the clients before I update the server. That may be unrelated to your issue, but I had the same apparent symptoms: big filesystem would never complete while small are fine. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 20:18:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0130531E for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9B5C1748 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id kl14so4967899pab.33 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:18:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=nJr7h8amezmZhchkPPpLQ9wUPnl3QG5LEa8NBLtjiKk=; b=Vi4xc2vTV1bTg0M7yw/RsfMxiBbepDI/Q/qYr0jQQc8kGV0Tl75E5Ai+C4uOIYMzyU V3ludOxjUis2SzjytNAY9n+L1zIu2xiTI3BY7FrodhUpy5HiSDJRdku0ledwvCYYxjup IYWInfoJCviyJl0FUqzLDXQjSt18KTZ+y4YjOxpZpPzK/VWLJ/BQ0OENKpts1W+p4FRR JZXRG/KYUtnlbrdyTOGO4QbEvh7vRa87Gs1gwoyLw5HzYHgfxeVBwpkNZoKQCrHO1XTX zR10+AWYdMGBijavi4YYayzdpmRrqwgSVZnt/jvpWQp1YsIUbzvjCJqhYF8BrpOuXXo/ vDLA== X-Received: by 10.68.217.129 with SMTP id oy1mr29597998pbc.23.1387311526369; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cpe-76-88-76-16.san.res.rr.com. [76.88.76.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qf7sm48678375pac.14.2013.12.17.12.18.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:18:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ricky Huang Subject: GCC 4.6 fails on types_used_by_cur_var_decl Message-Id: <6D1EB67A-BABF-4A63-8F14-EEAE78CFA832@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:18:41 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:18:47 -0000 Hello all, Initially I had 4.6.3 which I couldn't install over with 4.6.4 (it = complained about "installing into the same location") so I had to = "pkg_delete -f" it. Then I tried to "make install" in /usr/ports/lang/gcc and the build = fails with: .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-common.c:9537:28: error: use of = undeclared identifier 'types_used_by_cur_var_decl' while (!VEC_empty (tree, types_used_by_cur_var_decl)) .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-common.c:9537:28: error: use of = undeclared identifier 'types_used_by_cur_var_decl' while (!VEC_empty (tree, types_used_by_cur_var_decl)) .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-common.c:9539:34: error: use of = undeclared identifier 'types_used_by_cur_var_decl' tree type =3D VEC_pop (tree, types_used_by_cur_var_decl); .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-common.c:9539:34: error: use of = undeclared identifier 'types_used_by_cur_var_decl' tree type =3D VEC_pop (tree, types_used_by_cur_var_decl); Is this the case where types_used_by_cur_var_decl was not extern = declared somewhere else (probably in its header)? And a more important question, how did this kind of error sneak into the = trunk code? I had "portsnap fetch update" prior, so the port is up to = date=85 I was under the impression that everything on the head of the = trunk should be stable and at least compilable? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 23:29:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECEBBDF2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D1E17AB for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP311 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:28:40 -0800 X-TMN: [0X2LKEKf4+lJ6UKFV8yXWofVu5aFSq0y] X-Originating-Email: [drew@mykitchentable.net] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([69.62.230.77]) by BLU0-SMTP311.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:28:36 -0800 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:28:31 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: System Wide Bash Login Script Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131217-0, 12/17/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2013 23:28:36.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[B597B5C0:01CEFB7F] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:29:46 -0000 I'm trying to figure out where the system wide bash login script should be for FBSD 9.2. I've tried /etc/profile, /usr/local/etc/profile, and I even found reference to creating a .bashrc file in home directories, testing for /usr/local/etc/profile, and then calling it if it exists. None of this seems to work. However if I paste the contents into a shell after logging in, I get the expected behavior. What am I missing? Thanks, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 17 23:56:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C53414D4 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x235.google.com (mail-ob0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89898199F for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 23:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id uy5so6975535obc.26 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=toYKMQswDgpXeK4ivBonzNOEF2prHRAYwsHE0Zi6o+4=; b=Tq3HJlBfM2PAPND3ikFVhApYCmnIgcOK0baU4LchPHIVhA6m9Z+CaA07EpgO3BLjpl rCSbaRZhj34nmkiaPyAueBzGc/yVIJUc661JBJBZjh9CCDROFfI6nyfhu0Epdvaqn/Xs FYd/WDF+bP+7+ZAqxdVL4tlxTtqVC29neOSFi9Ouf8aVEuYZU7o0A94R1tSZn2hK1lHH ggFec/OjAimxwSBl5Q/nf+TdvxUO+rInV14+K/EICPanZOMubrxfAAM+NF+YwEX+5Kva YcvrZIJwWoxg8z6GuEayRyYsJNWDgkUW3kyzO4sKBOQuL7X0FeZ/0T5pPV06CGolZg4k m1ew== X-Received: by 10.60.142.8 with SMTP id rs8mr18378691oeb.34.1387324567776; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (pool-71-164-130-72.dllstx.fios.verizon.net. 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This behavior of global c= onfig sourcing actually comes from default /etc/profile files that come with= Linux distros. Since FreeBSD uses csh/tcsh by default, of course, it comes w= ith no such thing. However, it's fairly easy to add. The following snippet o= f code goes into your /etc/profile: if [ "$PS1" ]; then if [ "$BASH" ] && [ "$BASH" !=3D "/bin/sh" ]; then if [ -f /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc ]; then =00=00=00=00=00=00. /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc fi fi fi If the shell is interactive, is a bash shell, and the file /usr/local/etc/ba= sh.bashrc exists, it sources it. This is the snippet of code I use; I think it was originally from Debian.=20= --Matt > On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrot= e: >=20 > I'm trying to figure out where the system wide bash login script should be= for FBSD 9.2. I've tried /etc/profile, /usr/local/etc/profile, and I even f= ound reference to creating a .bashrc file in home directories, testing for /= usr/local/etc/profile, and then calling it if it exists. None of this seems= to work. 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References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:56:19 -0000 On 11/19/2013 6:09 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > Hello :-) > > I need to send additional options with dhcp request, so I add "send" > option for an interface in /etc/dhclient.conf, however options are > non-standard and they use option value below 100 and they are not sent > in dhcp request. I have noticed that other options with names known to > dhcp-options and decimal numbers above 100 are sent correctly, so > maybe there is an error in the options number parser, or I do > something wrong? > > Here is my example /etc/dhclient.conf configuation: > > interface "em0"{ > send option-060 "vendor"; <-- does not go out in dhcp request > send option-077 "user"; <-- does not go out in dhcp request > send option-123 "blah123"; <-- goes out in dhcp request > send root-path "blahroot"; <-- goes out in dhcp request > } > > Please advise, quick solution appreciated :-) The "option-n" options only work for unknown codes. Option codes 60 and 77 are known as dhcp-class-identifier and user-class, respectively. Both are formatted as ASCII text. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 10:00:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0FD19C3; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x229.google.com (mail-qc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0791DA7; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r5so5997986qcx.28 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:00:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=cXij2z2+Jvbt9oz8GhOHiHLqOUpVF0XvWXuDr+h0T38=; b=uUzPy6lgfD+wWtnMk/Bl4Rz0xb8E4jlUW9g9W6vCm7RZsifPc8L175mWNVo8xDXp5M XBM4QgPlKgus58GJsHugwltJhbyS3yKLp+xE7ycjNx5fTwzaR44cOY8dvtdiFI/nsDLI 8n1IVq88me4IjVZ+/UjRSPrh5XuVlxESgAaOmR+1qIiNPHFUfaXQRudQu36vfL0n6VPO jjuFpHNXKqrZh8ZkLkFw1h/ACJsGS+fLG1YUSLHMkakuSsc6SXhYHvT+ZWMpq3/bvgCD IABzw5A7JxMvpqfCs2KKa3qn8vJtg/5IkRfMefC7hdMWr5EoVTL65XZ5bgnv+/nFQ2Qz fJ8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.67.137 with SMTP id r9mr51858563qai.8.1387360829294; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:00:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.151.73 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.151.73 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 02:00:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52B1713D.5060203@bluerosetech.com> References: <52B1713D.5060203@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:00:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TlyH65wnE5Ne-L3bZhOv5TEwu2s Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug in dhclient / dhclient.conf / dhcp-options parser? From: CeDeROM To: Darren Pilgrim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:00:30 -0000 Naah, "option-n" should work for all options aside ascii names that vary ascross implementations :-) Best regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info On Dec 18, 2013 10:56 AM, "Darren Pilgrim" wrote: > On 11/19/2013 6:09 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > >> Hello :-) >> >> I need to send additional options with dhcp request, so I add "send" >> option for an interface in /etc/dhclient.conf, however options are >> non-standard and they use option value below 100 and they are not sent >> in dhcp request. I have noticed that other options with names known to >> dhcp-options and decimal numbers above 100 are sent correctly, so >> maybe there is an error in the options number parser, or I do >> something wrong? >> >> Here is my example /etc/dhclient.conf configuation: >> >> interface "em0"{ >> send option-060 "vendor"; <-- does not go out in dhcp request >> send option-077 "user"; <-- does not go out in dhcp request >> send option-123 "blah123"; <-- goes out in dhcp request >> send root-path "blahroot"; <-- goes out in dhcp request >> } >> >> Please advise, quick solution appreciated :-) >> > > The "option-n" options only work for unknown codes. Option codes 60 and > 77 are known as dhcp-class-identifier and user-class, respectively. Both > are formatted as ASCII text. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 10:24:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1365E45D for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCA91F76 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id 2yMQ1n00A516WCc01yMS9n; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:21:26 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=PMw2p5aC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=6ODmJMEYwRAA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=UhEf6l6_odUA:10 a=84SJBzZXam5RLmaktjkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B_jeCkouC0AA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VtEFm-000F3b-3y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:21:24 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: FreeBSD questions Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:21:19 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201312181021.19689.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Portaudit detects wrong version of subversion Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:24:36 -0000 There appears to be an inconsistency somewhere in my ports. I build all my ports from source and don't use pkg add. curlew:/home/mike% portaudit Affected package: subversion-1.7.13 Type of problem: subversion -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/e3244a7b-5603-11e3-878d-20cf30e32f6d.html 1 problem(s) in your installed packages found. You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. But I'm running version subversion-1.8.5, not subversion-1.7.13 curlew:/home/mike% svn --version --quiet 1.8.5 And there's no sign of any other version on my system curlew:/home/mike% pkg info -x subversion subversion-1.8.5 Although portaudit reports a problem everything looks OK with pkg audit curlew:/home/mike% pkg audit 0 problem(s) in the installed packages found. Where should I be looking to clean up this inconsistency? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 10:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF9ADE5B for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-1.adestra.com (mx-1.adestra.com [62.164.179.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81FE511B0 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.199.232.226] (helo=ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com) by mx-1.adestra.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VtETK-000DnH-Ia for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:35:23 +0000 Message-ID: <52B17A63.7010800@adestra.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:35:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portaudit detects wrong version of subversion References: <201312181021.19689.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201312181021.19689.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="97rswhH1B9E6JPSej0uRRMCNwk0s7fmSa" X-New-Subject: ***SPAM(-102.9)*** Re: Portaudit detects wrong version of subversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:51:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --97rswhH1B9E6JPSej0uRRMCNwk0s7fmSa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/18/13 10:21, Mike Clarke wrote: >=20 > There appears to be an inconsistency somewhere in my ports. I build all= my=20 > ports from source and don't use pkg add. >=20 > curlew:/home/mike% portaudit=20 > Affected package: subversion-1.7.13 > Type of problem: subversion -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference:=20 > http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/e3244a7b-5603-11e3-878d-20cf30e32f6d.html >=20 > 1 problem(s) in your installed packages found. >=20 > You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediat= ely. >=20 > But I'm running version subversion-1.8.5, not subversion-1.7.13 >=20 > curlew:/home/mike% svn --version --quiet > 1.8.5 >=20 > And there's no sign of any other version on my system >=20 > curlew:/home/mike% pkg info -x subversion > subversion-1.8.5 >=20 > Although portaudit reports a problem everything looks OK with pkg audit= >=20 > curlew:/home/mike% pkg audit > 0 problem(s) in the installed packages found. >=20 > Where should I be looking to clean up this inconsistency? >=20 portaudit works with the old still pkg_install database -- on a pkgngized system you should use 'pkg audit' instead. Does essentially the same job, but using /var/db/pkg/local.sqlite rather than all those old sub-directories for individual ports under /var/db/pkg. If this is something in your daily/weekly/monthly e-mails, there is a directly equivalent periodic script using 'pkg audit' which you can turn on, and turn off the portaudit one. Or just 'pkg delete portaudit' because it doesn't really do anything useful on a pkgngized system. 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References: <52B1713D.5060203@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:07:06 -0000 On 12/18/2013 2:00 AM, CeDeROM wrote: > Naah, "option-n" should work for all options aside ascii names that vary > ascross implementations :-) No, option-n is only defined for codes where there isn't a meaningful name. The dhclient in FreeBSD has meaningful names for codes 60 and 77, so you must use the meaningful names. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 12:39:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B83B991E; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31C861A3B; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x13so7471597wgg.19 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:39:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8C0U5AWRVUKFsGvzQh5T6ImsjfTqCUCVav+TCeGgi5A=; b=LL7R+BBbIRPNtyJyAJou/VlbFE2PaTYh3R7y/NqgW67zh65RHwmx2JNuf+mpDnYSz3 wGs+5mIpxRZ/6QlDSa7dGnH9J9wiZBuBhx9QPztNHmyS0Sd5P7I6vn5cRkViyKGUj8rp lVmYV9Xjv8zV9A34Od8vUBGFRHue7Yfj6XUfMt/hvGAvLaXAr/gPnA0/EWq3xS5OctLB K2qtkOFNrMi4pv8ZD2pMRJaDNboKv8BsRl7CbNoxX1LmR9XJt1L0gki89pcd/Varmh4s LIdqE2n2UvpKPpcyTTaIyzkKFpFUqEwn7ilH6y/JT47P3qMMoDkul30+TrKNPGxrsW/C q+HA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.108.100 with SMTP id hj4mr1937108wjb.83.1387370378391; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.160.79 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:39:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 06:39:38 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD server pubic keys From: David Noel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:39:42 -0000 There was a file somewhere that I no longer seem able to locate that contained the public keys of all public-facing FreeBSD.org servers. Does anyone know where to locate this? 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[76.88.76.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sd3sm1237005pbb.42.2013.12.18.09.10.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:10:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ricky Huang Message-Id: <2EE35243-2418-4875-BFE8-D887F3CD988F@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: GCC 4.6 fails on types_used_by_cur_var_decl Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:10:46 -0800 References: <6D1EB67A-BABF-4A63-8F14-EEAE78CFA832@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6D1EB67A-BABF-4A63-8F14-EEAE78CFA832@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:10:51 -0000 On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ricky Huang wrote: > [=85] >=20 > Is this the case where types_used_by_cur_var_decl was not extern = declared somewhere else (probably in its header)? >=20 > [=85] Seeing types_used_by_cur_var_decl is declared in function.h, I did an = #include in the complaining file c-common.c. Now it has different = compiler complains: .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-gimplify.c:102:17: error: incomplete = definition of type 'struct cgraph_node' for (cgn =3D cgn->nested; cgn ; cgn =3D cgn->next_nested) ~~~^ .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/tree-inline.h:53:10: note: forward declaration of = 'struct cgraph_node' struct cgraph_node *src_node; ^ .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-gimplify.c:102:42: error: incomplete = definition of type 'struct cgraph_node' for (cgn =3D cgn->nested; cgn ; cgn =3D cgn->next_nested) ~~~^ .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/tree-inline.h:53:10: note: forward declaration of = 'struct cgraph_node' struct cgraph_node *src_node; ^ .././../gcc-4.6.4/gcc/c-family/c-gimplify.c:103:22: error: incomplete = definition of type 'struct cgraph_node' c_genericize (cgn->decl); I have tried both clang and the default compiler (by modifying = /etc/make.conf) file and neither helped=85 Help? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 17:11:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80313893 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1031210DD for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBIHB1jX070414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:11:06 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rBIHB1jX070414 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/rBIHB1jX070414; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <52B1D71C.3060202@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:10:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD server pubic keys References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4HEPgeS7fvtRJ5T6VLGOkkq96KaAhwFlh" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RDNS_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:11:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4HEPgeS7fvtRJ5T6VLGOkkq96KaAhwFlh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/18/13 12:39, David Noel wrote: > There was a file somewhere that I no longer seem able to locate that > contained the public keys of all public-facing FreeBSD.org servers. > Does anyone know where to locate this? =46rom the DNS. Eg. :% dig +short IN SSHFP freefall.freebsd.org 1 2 4B493272CCCDD234C02ADE8FAFD4E772E5A3C775364B6BCAEEE7A98B 16E4AB04 2 2 7F76BEFD3EAB7FB3C38AC650DC1EC74426523CEE208399A86E896BCB 82E49582 3 1 E37999A583E73F49B22D19C306FB69D161D15988 1 1 B35C16D3DA4B7FE15C15A55E7B6465231F9EDE84 2 1 901699919C153B6040062BFAD12FC328DB9D4FA7 3 2 A9B851FE028353393112F74DB6C4E547BB8CEA66E3F1443680C421A1 B5EB420F Those are the SSH public keys for that server, albeit encoded in an unusual way. Setting up your local ssh config so that it looks up host keys as a verification step is as simple as putting this: Host * VerifyHostKeyDNS yes into /etc/ssh/ssh_config Cheers, Matthew --4HEPgeS7fvtRJ5T6VLGOkkq96KaAhwFlh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSsdclXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnFMEQAIcOINRhk1t21CqPcZymCPYH m2sm4KDEBr5BreRxDzat2+c5nXhN2pb/xvEDEB8gVvbkuO9irnqfi6ORT58s4giP yv4riwOn30dm6nX6DywGLD1lBXQvCzH0DwAUOE010lhTOL/o/lO51+ejaTou/33J J+xrd469vfdF+sjD4ZtkXhced/ZJNiXFtRlRVksunqgdgw4vC5oCGNga60eJqtIt Ck+3kzpVRm3bdcIdKnSaN+TEYzRdWQdwjv0X2On+G4qFUfz3YFqzo3RH5ny6QfQ6 790Zkac4PP9UiEIq7jk8hVYjfNSQA1Tvy7fZcjgpV432YjKk2WYSM/WZKu/pbjf2 umK0xZRzgoSrkIi3YvRrxogkkoKo+HC9bdRrvcqJLRV+Z8H8cHubt4kIl7W7hRHP UyP0BHF45mAuXrsTNooXBXjDFFYM0oI/8gvMnqimxSzLHt2bFqMNTmqDEApxKrfP VN3MEKnkdxMVVRtMnXKRNpy9ZENaJvtM8YvermP50u3hs20XDx5zme2JgfPeH5rG oDg5DVS+AfislJoPbvNCekPxCBXXdhQNV7m9ZvFefRFgfCpwWL5+/M/6leP2W8Mj IzFIhLRd1cb5C2CkmqC2GTkpSdcCxWLrbwBmwWXl8TzATHRxCDozWvutQMJKzKS6 ROqDJcjMenlrGcjZITAV =Q1OA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4HEPgeS7fvtRJ5T6VLGOkkq96KaAhwFlh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 17:30:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E949345 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8776F1230 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id 35WG1n006516WCc015WH77; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:17 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=PMw2p5aC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=-ULTJd-tqhcA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=7wk2-IM3W-kA:10 a=EDDCgsJGt1iyFR2R5mgA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VtKwo-000AHz-F1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:16 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201312181021.19689.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <52B17A63.7010800@adestra.com> In-Reply-To: <52B17A63.7010800@adestra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201312181730.13133.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Portaudit detects wrong version of subversion Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:30:20 -0000 On Wednesday 18 Dec 2013 10:35:15 Matthew Seaman wrote: > portaudit works with the old still pkg_install database -- on a > pkgngized system you should use 'pkg audit' instead. Does essentially > the same job, but using /var/db/pkg/local.sqlite rather than all those > old sub-directories for individual ports under /var/db/pkg. Thanks, I'll switch over to using pkg audit for the daily periodic job. Should I do anything about removing out of date subdirectories in /var/db? There was a subversion-1.7.13 subdirectory but nothing for subversion-1.8.5. As an experiment I've now rebuilt subversion using portmaster and the subversion-1.8.5 subdirectory has been created but the subversion-1.7.13 subdirectory wasn't deleted. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 17:27:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87828AC for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D76011FA for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP372 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s37.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:26:54 -0800 X-TMN: [nXobUHYIsNG0Do7GaNdnEoe5dCiZLE4Y] X-Originating-Email: [drew@mykitchentable.net] Message-ID: Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([69.62.230.77]) by BLU0-SMTP372.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:26:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:26:45 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Pherigo , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: System Wide Bash Login Script References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131218-0, 12/18/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2013 17:26:51.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[56EFA8B0:01CEFC16] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:27:01 -0000 On 12/17/2013 3:56 PM, Matthew Pherigo wrote: > Hi Drew! > > Believe it or not, systemwide bashrc sourcing isn't actually built-in to bash by default (though in my opinion, it should be). This behavior of global config sourcing actually comes from default /etc/profile files that come with Linux distros. Since FreeBSD uses csh/tcsh by default, of course, it comes with no such thing. However, it's fairly easy to add. The following snippet of code goes into your /etc/profile: > > if [ "$PS1" ]; then > if [ "$BASH" ] && [ "$BASH" != "/bin/sh" ]; then > if [ -f /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc ]; then > fi > fi > fi > > If the shell is interactive, is a bash shell, and the file /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc exists, it sources it. > > This is the snippet of code I use; I think it was originally from Debian. > --Matt Hi Matt, Thanks for your reply. The snippet of code you provided does work. However, I remain confused. I have a box I built a couple of years ago which is currently at 9.1. I don't recall how I got bash login scripts working on that one but it appears that I put my commands in /usr/local/etc/bashrc. The /etc/profile on that box is the default where everything is commented out. So no code is needed on that box to get the commands in /usr/local/etc/bashrc to run when logging in. I'm just trying to understand why the /etc/profile trick is required on this new box I built but not the old? Thanks, Drew > >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> >> I'm trying to figure out where the system wide bash login script should be for FBSD 9.2. I've tried /etc/profile, /usr/local/etc/profile, and I even found reference to creating a .bashrc file in home directories, testing for /usr/local/etc/profile, and then calling it if it exists. None of this seems to work. However if I paste the contents into a shell after logging in, I get the expected behavior. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Drew >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 18:31:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF0E8B3F for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.physics.umn.edu (smtp.spa.umn.edu [128.101.220.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFEEC1746 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spa-sysadm-01.spa.umn.edu ([134.84.199.8]) by mail.physics.umn.edu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1VtLDO-000P5P-KS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:47:24 -0600 Message-ID: <52B1DFAB.8030300@physics.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:47:23 -0600 From: Graham Allan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131028 Thunderbird/17.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mrmachenry.spa.umn.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, TW_HR,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: System Wide Bash Login Script X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:31:48 -0000 On 12/18/2013 11:26 AM, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > On 12/17/2013 3:56 PM, Matthew Pherigo wrote: >> Hi Drew! >> >> Believe it or not, systemwide bashrc sourcing isn't actually built-in >> to bash by default (though in my opinion, it should be). This behavior >> of global config sourcing actually comes from default /etc/profile >> files that come with Linux distros. Since FreeBSD uses csh/tcsh by >> default, of course, it comes with no such thing. However, it's fairly >> easy to add. The following snippet of code goes into your /etc/profile: >> >> if [ "$PS1" ]; then >> if [ "$BASH" ] && [ "$BASH" != "/bin/sh" ]; then >> if [ -f /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc ]; then >> fi >> fi >> fi >> >> If the shell is interactive, is a bash shell, and the file >> /usr/local/etc/bash.bashrc exists, it sources it. >> >> This is the snippet of code I use; I think it was originally from Debian. >> --Matt > > Hi Matt, > > Thanks for your reply. The snippet of code you provided does work. > However, I remain confused. > > I have a box I built a couple of years ago which is currently at 9.1. I > don't recall how I got bash login scripts working on that one but it > appears that I put my commands in /usr/local/etc/bashrc. The > /etc/profile on that box is the default where everything is commented > out. So no code is needed on that box to get the commands in > /usr/local/etc/bashrc to run when logging in. > > I'm just trying to understand why the /etc/profile trick is required on > this new box I built but not the old? There's a compile-time option in config-top.h ("#define SYS_BASHRC ..."), which nobody seems to use. Back when we used to build our own bash from tarballs for long-gone proprietary unix systems, I always used to set these options. It was a huge PITA that the prebuilt packages on linux don't have this set and for a while we built our own custom version with the feature re-enabled but eventually it began to feel too much like swimming upstream. I guess we gave up this issue on FreeBSD as well! I still don't understand why bash people don't see the value in this feature - having to insert that snippet into everybody's personal bashrc is just stupid IMO... Graham -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Allan - allan@physics.umn.edu - (612) 624-5040 School of Physics and Astronomy - University of Minnesota ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 19:12:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C03DCA8E; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A185A1A50; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E15985607D; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:12:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:12:12 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: David Noel Subject: Re: FreeBSD server pubic keys Message-ID: <20131218191212.GA7676@lonesome.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:12:13 -0000 I just can't stop myself from replying, but ... ... oh, I have to stop. But ... "that's not the Subject: line you want. This Subject line can go about its business." mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 20:39:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A18A881 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F22841189 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBIKdaWO074710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:39:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rBIKdaWO074710 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1387399177; bh=K30BK8PFcNS91+XARqedNxQtVUqPaMrUuPj90mE6p1Q=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Wed,=2018=20Dec=202013=2020:39:23=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Portaudit=20detects=20wrong=20ver sion=20of=20subversion|References:=20<201312181021.19689.jmc-freeb sd2@milibyte.co.uk>=20<52B17A63.7010800@adestra.com>=20<2013121817 30.13133.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<201312181730 .13133.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>; b=v61kWuy3ekSc7BTsmxEv0zoBXORUHK9RijTysky1OsJ8dbrWPVhiVbNdEwzaHCWdF UAxEkDRdkdhhhsrdfWAWj1RqgrcXIZYE3jt1xlPzx/C4fBPOWZYGZE0hTywJwPAsgv Z3WQh14skRM8XGb8upwcc06L/wraZNmoj9M9PX60= Message-ID: <52B207FB.5020203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:39:23 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portaudit detects wrong version of subversion References: <201312181021.19689.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <52B17A63.7010800@adestra.com> <201312181730.13133.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201312181730.13133.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E7F39EBF Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aFl4sdNXQAUw2F1Dufm4epvuFTDcXaDMB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:39:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aFl4sdNXQAUw2F1Dufm4epvuFTDcXaDMB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/12/2013 17:30, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Wednesday 18 Dec 2013 10:35:15 Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 >> portaudit works with the old still pkg_install database -- on a >> pkgngized system you should use 'pkg audit' instead. Does essentially= >> the same job, but using /var/db/pkg/local.sqlite rather than all those= >> old sub-directories for individual ports under /var/db/pkg. >=20 > Thanks, I'll switch over to using pkg audit for the daily periodic job.= >=20 > Should I do anything about removing out of date subdirectories in /var/= db?=20 > There was a subversion-1.7.13 subdirectory but nothing for subversion-1= =2E8.5.=20 > As an experiment I've now rebuilt subversion using portmaster and the=20 > subversion-1.8.5 subdirectory has been created but the subversion-1.7.1= 3=20 > subdirectory wasn't deleted. >=20 If you use portmaster(8), it uses that directory structure to stash some info it uses for distfile management. Otherwise those per port subdirectories of /var/db/pkg are pretty useless on a pkgng-ized system. rm(1) is your friend. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --aFl4sdNXQAUw2F1Dufm4epvuFTDcXaDMB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSsggIXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT7f0P+wfu9ODc+8NsoXm7th4Hv+1b v/Vm55GZtemLPOlOFYgYMIPEApo1l4MO304h3Cij4u3kW/BDjqO0YK3PfuavjLy0 B0n0ioRYLAgovTbFXheAQX6M+WvuK2dY4+tOxIJxbCwoi0wPm27HAPbz5Hxmcm+y r70Y3OiXTuwjtAywwPFlOAsMYvIK9TS1z0KQoXnn02ItKlA0kZ+qM+8YfcPIJRpd WiZp6AZ5deQGHJM6VZYhxlmBub4HlJ8K1pSULM07RcTQuGjEdOqRoZ5AJ5CCFWAA /Neg/LbNkM17ys0KKnCOh65YoOyoD+ZhtFK0y4PggpQwMDTadotzK3hvZxRxSB6J 9q5jW/4VK9MCri2AukABJotIPWZOLxi3mI73NM3lrnWlkrDz4sY0vxoTrdwNvdxs mAGWxsaDXlbRZ/IwWw3RKl2+PBxT52LkjEduRpUhb267iihUmqE5VgqEHLMZKgps pM6ctDdBPRXBKvKrBQz4ozg5i7kBdgTKUl1reKEw62B7/mH6sFSA6kyJpDRaIkAB PXltGa9FYdcANkmQ0UTjIDlVAiR0QYvJaCCYFkbyXKrcJPL/vpkNJ3/qRoP6OA1i 0xOfWaJKIlXihd4IvVmGX3dQAQ/BSq++3SCJuBzZhfC7B1bE4oXUQYFOLN+Q0ybn /sdWNlr6zUsAYWlsGhtA =ROTN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aFl4sdNXQAUw2F1Dufm4epvuFTDcXaDMB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 23:03:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AB51DE3 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C291FE1 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D46227873; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 00:02:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rBIN2XZ2003477; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 00:02:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 00:02:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Graham Allan Subject: Re: System Wide Bash Login Script Message-Id: <20131219000233.95a6e1dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <52B1DFAB.8030300@physics.umn.edu> References: <52B1DFAB.8030300@physics.umn.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:03:02 -0000 On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:47:23 -0600, Graham Allan wrote: > There's a compile-time option in config-top.h ("#define SYS_BASHRC > ..."), which nobody seems to use. > > [...] I still don't understand why > bash people don't see the value in this feature - having to insert that > snippet into everybody's personal bashrc is just stupid IMO... It sounds wrong, especially when you consult the documentation, "man bash", down at the "FILES" section: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells The local file ~/.bashrc, used for interactive shells (that don't have to be login shells) doesn't seem to have a global equivalent. When the shell is a login shell, this should be sufficient. A similar "precedence mechanism" has been a useful thing for the C shell for decades: /etc/csh.cshrc, /etc/csh.login and /etc/csh.logout are being used system-wide, which means that its settings can benefit everyone who has an _empty_ local configuration file; only changes need to be applied locally, if intended, so system settings could be easily "inherited" without requiring changes to users' dotfiles, it was just required to make sure the skel/ subtree did privde them with empty files (that they could change them- selves if they wanted). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 09:32:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D976AF51 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C63B1E32 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:32:37 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMHACu8slJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgws4PoMatzoXdIJPM1gCBRMOAhEFJRiIJ6FZjw2TCoYlEwSBKY4Gglg1gRMEmBUBkhSDLDs X-IPAS-Result: AlMHACu8slJNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgws4PoMatzoXdIJPM1gCBRMOAhEFJRiIJ6FZjw2TCoYlEwSBKY4Gglg1gRMEmBUBkhSDLDs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,512,1384297200"; d="scan'208";a="225861524" Received: from 77.109.118.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.118.201]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 19 Dec 2013 10:15:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:31:22 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: make release memstick Message-ID: <20131219093122.GF40836@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:32:38 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to build a custom FreeBSD memstick for my Soekris box. Everything runs fine except when I'm doing the $> make memstick target with sudo, I'v put the logs here: https://dpaste.de/TOOU Any idea why does it fails..? Thanks, Julien -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 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19 Dec 2013 16:15:28 +0000 UTC Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:15:17 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Message-ID: <20131219111517.1211c88e@europa> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:17:29 -0000 On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:45:36 +0000 krad wrote: > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Try: https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?&t=39349 Some more rational discussion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 17:11:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5E86904 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D1921453 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rBJGtUT7012544; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:55:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <52B32502.3020403@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:55:30 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:11:13 -0000 On 19/12/2013 15:45, krad wrote: > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour Just remember, any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook. See also Poe's Law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 17:34:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF1B9223 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C3DB162C for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VthTw-0004ex-RC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:33:56 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.82.127]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:33:56 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:33:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:33:44 -0500 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-82-127.washdc.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/4.12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:34:05 -0000 krad wrote: > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour Oh yes - many a FreeBSD'r has seen this before. When I am in serious need of some lulz I check it out. Some serious laughs here. Anyone who has a desire to be a super-troll should study these writings in detail. This guy is the Uber-Troll of all trolls. Definitely and art form where he's concerned. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 18:17:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABD2015C for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22e.google.com (mail-ob0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7201F1973 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wn1so1548877obc.19 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:17:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=oTAaKZMnKBhxR3ZIfZg4xJc897wbAoTArUJMPOGXtHw=; b=kdWObx3TkOZ3zZvZaOvLGPcEIqWHVhp9Y4s1hyQvVHMRtZ4cXs8TpFdA4NPbeKrEtk bBfCV6n9BqQXYYSFhgHvjzGz7k43RyiwOuV6pkKqpB7th33kUCiE8jAMqMXV+u6AaH1w AaaQ7Zn0Gqrw4ZesEHr4DbYx6Iwr7cdQNBePFP489bkxEtp0e9YvKJR5elOAjhVf4U3q RacMK4jno3eWwpQtK7N7l8cJKWwo61buEYNiwoEZuDqYT97SeG5DTGUH3HaBFsjtFIAC 1kwQvVYkqEnSix+ZedHx+dsyP/xvHqGQbyZuIY42jOflQfWC9NU/DyzP+fkSbm7ezRt0 P3wA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.243.138 with SMTP id wy10mr1506699obc.83.1387477034778; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.70.202 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:17:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:17:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: Outback Dingo To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:17:15 -0000 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > krad wrote: > > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > > Oh yes - many a FreeBSD'r has seen this before. When I am in serious need > of > some lulz I check it out. Some serious laughs here. > > Anyone who has a desire to be a super-troll should study these writings in > detail. This guy is the Uber-Troll of all trolls. Definitely and art form > where he's concerned. > > -Mike > > However misleading he might be, and incorrect in every aspect, there are and will remain those that buy into the crap he writes. He should be brought to light on the web, and responded to in full for all the BS hes posted. Until refuted it can and has the potential always to cause doubt amongst potential users. FreeBSD should somehow defend itself and expose the idiots. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 18:22:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF96124D for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CE201A19 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VtiFH-0003ek-15 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:55 +0100 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:51 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:22:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:22:59 -0000 krad gmail.com> writes: > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour Hi, I think some of the comments there are a proof that the author lacks knowledge about topics discussed ("Why do BSD people fear systemd?" post is an example of it; I am a long time Linux user and consider it, supposedly only a replacement for an init system, a kind of "trojan horse" of free software eco-system). But, the point she made indirectly via FreeBSD list posts about Google Analytics is right. Considering that Google officially said that it will not respect user's choice to not be tracked ("Do Not Track" option in a browser), then it is reasonable to reject their privacy-violating software. Considering also that FreeBSD made that announcement a year ago (Dec 2012) and since then the world learned more about friendly spying (yes, everybody does it, btw), it is resonable to back off. Besides, the justification for it http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2012-December/001441.html is unreasonable - a free and open software like FreeBSD should think twice before giving even an appearance of tracking users on their site except for security reasons (I think the behavioral reasons given are not sincere - FreeBSD can "leave the home without it", really ...). Using a de facto spyware for that purpose makes it even more ridiculous. And if you have a doubt about it, then read this (and followup comments which are even more enlightening): http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/politics/report-on-nsa-surveillance-tactics.html?emc=edit_na_20131218&_r=1&#h[] "The Times They Are A-changin'". I think you are losing the PR part of it for certain. jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 18:45:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE942887 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x235.google.com (mail-yh0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B0231CAA for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f53.google.com with SMTP id b20so406142yha.12 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:45:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=fq6Xx9eV0LZuSMJ06BlCA36eomKp1Ey5IEwJDFtZudw=; b=AfL5mfWFHZ0UHKnDCuol0dnJ8UoPdXBHQ+zhDO58+EkmThRSrbSmswRl2aD3shVmRA 55EEoS8gXmoQTP2p44qEeWp86ZwS3pzSzHaTIq+jNc+SDbCP8OzaWpVD7lx9vMBdBjAB zfijLnfNSCwQ8oc3Yz58P8xg4rQvurKDQGxdGXGipguZ/K4XgfIUnlG51fToj27AYydU MNMmjgZcJcJobWiH6vd5/gikK0wB38xcnHs+QTCswtL6yPTTujLc48WVQFYzNFH87mbn dAz2/uN4LQpEJCVzLPRHncgeHRsM5gAqOL3tHwxZTkzdkLyoZe0eMW8gOFCZaP3MblV5 IlWg== X-Received: by 10.236.82.198 with SMTP id o46mr2592160yhe.53.1387478717596; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.99.21] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r98sm7392485yhp.3.2013.12.19.10.45.15 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:45:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:45:14 -0200 Message-ID: <1387478714.22358.64.camel@lenovo.toontown> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:45:18 -0000 I read, yes... That moron, probably have problem with BSD that he was unable to use... Note: when I say YOU, it does not mean "YOU the reader" it means "every person" OK??? I use FreeBSD because I like, an not because it is dead or alive, or if it belongs to apple, or to the pope, or if will be lunched to mars... I think that freebsd licence is made in mind that anyone can use for good or for bad, is up to you to use it, If you want to use the sofware from FreeBSD.org or from Netbsd.org, it is up to you to build, use, sell, support.... If you do not agree, go to use something you like, If freebsd does not have systemd, it is a matter of need, when, or if, is needed, someone will code it. Apple have FreeBSD 5.x in his MAC OS, and have something like systemd Systemd appears in Solaris, (using another name, SAC if I remember), and is still used in OpenIndiana... I use Openindiana too... it is very powerfull OS, that if treated with "love" can do wonderfull things too, a Supermicro with 2TB of memory and 48 cores running openindiana, can run hundreds of virtualboxes running every os you imagine... About the "new" applications that is based on systemd, what are they??? I write commercial applications in FreeBSD, and use Netbsd in old notebooks, Yes! there exists "old notebooks" with 512Mb of memory and ONE core, not everyone have money to buy ultrabooks for US$2000. those machines costs U$100 (20 for the price of one...) running NetBSD they are fast reliable, and I do not have the "kernel of the day". When you are a "geek", you can compile and install the linux "kernel of the day", in your computer, but when you have 2000 computers running, you cannot install the "kernel of the month".. FreeBSD kernels change every 6 months, NetBSD change once a year... and has been around for the last 20 years. The claim that BSD are insecure, is pure "bull ****", if you install a software from unknown source, and it is made using BSD kernel and companion utilities, and there is a spyware inside, it is not BSD fault, it is your fault! The same thing happens with Linux, if you install a binary linux from Steam, for example, you trust that Steam does not put a spyware inside it, it it does, it is not Linux fault either.... 99% of computer users, use the computer for enter in internet, facebook, whasup, tweeter, browse some news, gossips, multimedia (movies, torrents,youtube...) and porn. Less than 1% make a document every week. I have rolled a FreeBSD distribution with more than 1400 packages, all integrated and updated every week, with pkgng... I have a happy community of users, common persons that does not know about FreeBSD, Netbsd or Arch Linux, all they want is to open the notebook and use it... and BSD does it very well.. better than linux indeed because after a week or so running, the linux kernel "leaks" memory and the filesystem starts to become slow, only a power off, would fix it... FreeBSD have ZFS in kernel, because of the BSD licence, it is fast reliable, full of features, and never "crashes", ZFS is the definitive filesystem, and Linux is still in the EXT4??? Ok there is a ZFS for linux, but not produced by a linux distribution... and is still "unstable"... would you install a linux with ZFS in a server that "servers" 500 users and holds the data for the whole company ??? If you are using FreeBSD, you do!, I do!! I have installed hundreds... never breaks... the mtbf is about 15 years!! I am not talking about "premium hardware" (dell, hp...) I am talking about machines you buy the peaces and mount it yourself (or at least the nearest computer shop...). I use pkgng since version 0.x, and it is a good piece of software, it have ideas from pacman, pkg_xxx, apt_get.... so what is the problem??? if it is any issue with debian, why they (debian) does not sue BSD or Baptiste Daroussin?? That guy in the internet you saw, for sure have a big problem with BSD, probably hes the one that only knows how to put the CD or the Pen drive in the machine, and hit "install"... a tipical windows user... that now look around and discover that exists something other than M$, bought a linux book at the bookstore, and thinks that is the 8th wonder of the universe... Linux is good, but BSD is better is more stable, reliable, changes less, is ideal for servers... I prefer reliable, stable and secure over "speed"... I used to use Arch linux, but it changes so fequently that is unusable in an corporate environment, when Arch linux changed to systemd and remove the /sbin /bin directory, it broke all the posix standard that have been around for 20 years... I like the freedom of Arch, its way of doing things, you choose to use it or not... When Arch killed the gnome2, from a day to another without letting the user a chance to choose from the old to new, was a chaos.. Imagine you having about 200 notebooks sometimes 1000 km apart, and the next day your desktop environment is gone... Lucky me that does not rely on the Arch repo, I rolled my own... from time to time I copy some of the Arch distribution packages to my own repo. Kind of thing that never happens in BSD, whey they decided to discontinue kde3, it was warned everybody with months in advance, so you can prepare and decide you move or not... Hope I answer some doubts from the newcomers, That is all folks, Thank you for your patience, Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 18:56:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3286EB25 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gg0-x231.google.com (mail-gg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E65ED1DBE for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 4so373832ggm.8 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:56:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=dA3UPs1Flvv7hcynr3iN8QpVKGC9MBxmSdI71SjgRuM=; b=kmkFYuHXSDvx8jt62Gg6oPACr6BoFgqehnQTj0BQAMxcyfpi6keYfH0hvGjjZUbQBd VRvlo7qWw38DniOuys94kJzqtsdynXX8hKVxVOoZM22t9Z+U/PtD6hGYAtUND+IBLz1S g3xUeiF+2YxLNBeRm9wnokZqR8MKmlhU5H1iPRkwLtlv0bbVPDs+cncGMWzZjcdGTfPI 7GwsZmKu2UI5X2LeTOJlIT7ppxo9SVzWV9mY0/Rw4YKF3t41GhfQD+Wo7d1+nuvVB4Z9 GjclLDJWZabPJ1wznOlI8CPgqPiWrLB6VUMC7PrxPBF+8Bomkf1oOXKVT5tmOUbOTkFO 465Q== X-Received: by 10.236.41.133 with SMTP id h5mr2621670yhb.22.1387479394119; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.99.21] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 48sm7413187yhq.11.2013.12.19.10.56.32 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:56:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: about privacy... From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:56:30 -0200 Message-ID: <1387479390.22358.69.camel@lenovo.toontown> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:56:35 -0000 If google does not obey my wishes, I put in all the proxyes (squid), I never access internet directly... a rewriter called SquidGuard, is in the ports..... and one among a lot of builtin rules (domains) ther are bing.com googlesyndicate.com googlestatistics.com ... ... so my data never reaches google servers... Also I recomend install a tor proxy (is in the ports...) and point the squid to go to the tor proxy... done... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 19:03:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 870DF15E for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x233.google.com (mail-vc0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44D761E74 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id ie18so863005vcb.38 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:03:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=VNRttqNu5R2iD4Ta3AlLF3XQ0EZi9ENfLPylypcCXXA=; b=vHNvQn5PaNd2HinnmndbsBYgtGMTBpbZbpn97MNcqRnn4NBRQUxrLSpqRckLQERpnP CBvvIvKfv8OH9tVZ/gDWhYmRdsiect6bv3INRgJeikQ7Jpdv0CmHTGaPx0Bw48lN7Srg bPdmu8h574Os3z/VkPwsRnB320kTRdlHk/ObnF+PKbgI5bjAqnPvrPgG7cvTW5HzVl4+ yYl45qBhbg+w1BCn6OcWiIVOY+DcZcdg079hN9g4E0kKMGps0FwIEqoezgInzyzrDRLc cr92uJiqM/OGHwQczDkkOCHlymlrUsCHXnw/gfnYlkkS/orDdYk71SQjd6tQ/kUS9fzX g5eQ== X-Received: by 10.58.233.98 with SMTP id tv2mr2003216vec.11.1387479807272; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:03:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.231.167 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:03:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1387479390.22358.69.camel@lenovo.toontown> References: <1387479390.22358.69.camel@lenovo.toontown> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:03:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: about privacy... To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:03:28 -0000 2013/12/19 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi : > If google does not obey my wishes, > I put in all the proxyes (squid), I never access > internet directly... a rewriter called SquidGuard, > is in the ports..... > and one among a lot of builtin rules (domains) > ther are > bing.com > googlesyndicate.com > googlestatistics.com > ... > ... > so my data never reaches google servers... > > Also I recomend install a tor proxy (is in the ports...) > and point the squid to go to the tor proxy... done... Just.... use.... more...... dots..... then......... your..... message... will...look......more.....enigmatic......... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 22:35:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D33C5F for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x242.google.com (mail-la0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D4821005 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f66.google.com with SMTP id er20so207446lab.5 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:35:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=42liqo9mzlM45afwwIArJ7ZMBUr8sqqbQn3TdY/2+4M=; b=cgMoL/wc1M01NablLqu35ZyZ5myGbz+QpVodG+gCOleA+0t1N+A7SNzpJ612KzLf7U 9CLX5h58atNx1TAcG+0/YUlpeUpZ/znR8uzsmxSxYF7IJRdiHcKUKGCOIOQrLafBvN1d +BJWkMjhVHmb+U8si0A2VXll4oxULUgk0u54MVx1d8DnbSrRPELDFUo5sqpYStUekrwp lMd27XJrOmMtA9wz4uH9+hjbYqqU259eQwGs5ckSNw8qJlE9CnTfzsWGXxZF5FK9kvg7 nmcccOnV4lbnxmszaY1ktzApJ3eZb729l0rNL831In5I3NQXFsqSGM8zEuQKYgGOPZc9 +H6g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.28.161 with SMTP id c1mr2052058lah.24.1387492537870; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.83.103 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:35:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: Guillermo Guerrero To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:35:40 -0000 Do this website have a relation to trollaxor.com? They have a fantasy about Apple Computer making FreeBSD: * http://www.trollaxor.com/2004/02/thank-apple-for-freebsd.html * http://www.trollaxor.com/2008/11/freebsd-owes-apple-big.html * http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html They use a lot time to hate OpenBSD and make outrageous claims, and the latest story is about new 64-bit OS/2 Warp version, wtf?! Is this the same person or do more than one person really use their time to make this kind of fiction?! -Guillermo On 12/19/13, krad wrote: > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 22:48:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CB614A2 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97310F8 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:48:02 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlkGAFN3s1JNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgws4g1i1XU+BFRd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgbCxgCAgUTDgICDwUTAQkILAcEARwEh1sMCbFGkxGGJReBKY0YAQFWFoJYNYETBJVHgk4BgTCQZIMsOzGBBA X-IPAS-Result: AlkGAFN3s1JNbXbJ/2dsb2JhbABZgws4g1i1XU+BFRd0giUBAQEDAQEBASArCBgbCxgCAgUTDgICDwUTAQkILAcEARwEh1sMCbFGkxGGJReBKY0YAQFWFoJYNYETBJVHgk4BgTCQZIMsOzGBBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,515,1384297200"; d="scan'208";a="226320629" Received: from 77.109.118.201.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.118.201]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 19 Dec 2013 23:32:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:47:54 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make release memstick Message-ID: <20131219224754.GD51116@mordor.lan> References: <20131219093122.GF40836@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131219093122.GF40836@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:48:03 -0000 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:31:22AM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to build a custom FreeBSD memstick for my Soekris box. > Everything runs fine except when I'm doing the $> make memstick target > with sudo, I'v put the logs here: https://dpaste.de/TOOU > > Any idea why does it fails..? No one on this .. ? Should I submit a bug report ? > > Thanks, > Julien > > -- > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 23:44:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46383F1D for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alt-proxy17.mail.unifiedlayer.com (alt-proxy17.mail.unifiedlayer.com [66.147.241.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FB5114D9 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25316 invoked by uid 0); 19 Dec 2013 23:43:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2013 23:43:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=G47XV69kBzjMgbcLpvhbAmy3/Xx0Wv9Jiq7haTyz4FE=; b=FAjmgzWGbZx0ft2CPJw97DQE9w6RL3j3JLKDXVkHYQDntlZ6Ok4HTSeCO/GIbGCH9NHi1foSWfn3eYNwjjfkzfG9HE5BscFdzn6BLhwBZ46pL8isi3seqMR481UPP4DX; Received: from [98.245.97.34] (port=61944 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VtnFe-0000XO-Q9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:43:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:43:13 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Message-ID: <20131219234313.GA69059@glaze.hydra> References: <52B32502.3020403@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52B32502.3020403@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 98.245.97.34 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:44:03 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:55:30PM +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 19/12/2013 15:45, krad wrote: > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour >=20 > Just remember, any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from= =20 > a genuine kook. See also Poe's Law. >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law I don't think this particular troll blog passes the (stomach) Tur(n)ing test. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlKzhI8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW8fQCfd1+ZQJ6/jEohvpZJcWkiPEyB o0AAoLe1Ro6k3QIKhiS6NGiDoxdcbVZ0 =jO7a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 00:39:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBF32DF3 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E6918A1 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; b=vXeiWc9YBsZ/Vkfai6sHDQnE6bXWZEBAfBiOiFW71v4rFgRnKhQaCxk8Gk2tPc5/bNjpFh9YZQYe cjOJySxuXFqsvN6AHg5gqeMmmfkgcgcAphMHFZlyqgRcAfkLxFtE Received: from [192.168.11.5] (213.111.120.236 [213.111.120.236]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1387499961225338.4008031092162; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: clutton To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:39:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1387499952.4427.4.camel@eva02.mbsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZohoMail: Ss SS_10 UW UB ZCF-710TPL UW UB SGR3_1_26113_142 X-ZohoMail-Owner: <1387499952.4427.4.camel@eva02.mbsd>+zmo_0_ X-ZohoMail-Sender: 213.111.120.236 X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 2 X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:39:27 -0000 On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 18:22 +0000, jb wrote: > krad gmail.com> writes: > > > > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > > Hi, > > I think some of the comments there are a proof that the author lacks > knowledge about topics discussed ("Why do BSD people fear systemd?" post > is an example of it; I am a long time Linux user and consider it, > supposedly only a replacement for an init system, a kind of "trojan horse" > of free software eco-system). > > But, the point she made indirectly via FreeBSD list posts about Google > Analytics is right. > > Considering that Google officially said that it will not respect user's choice > to not be tracked ("Do Not Track" option in a browser), then it is reasonable > to reject their privacy-violating software. > > Considering also that FreeBSD made that announcement a year ago (Dec 2012) > and since then the world learned more about friendly spying (yes, everybody > does it, btw), it is resonable to back off. > > Besides, the justification for it > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2012-December/001441.html > is unreasonable - a free and open software like FreeBSD should think twice > before giving even an appearance of tracking users on their site except for > security reasons (I think the behavioral reasons given are not sincere - > FreeBSD can "leave the home without it", really ...). > Using a de facto spyware for that purpose makes it even more ridiculous. > > And if you have a doubt about it, then read this (and followup comments > which are even more enlightening): > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/us/politics/report-on-nsa-surveillance-tactics.html?emc=edit_na_20131218&_r=1&#h[] > > "The Times They Are A-changin'". > I think you are losing the PR part of it for certain. > > jb I was also surprised when I saw a google analytics announce in the mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 01:46:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D760B776 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A2591DB4 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7CD22764E; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:46:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rBK1jjr4010382; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:45:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:45:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: make release memstick Message-Id: <20131220024545.31f423c3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131219224754.GD51116@mordor.lan> References: <20131219093122.GF40836@mordor.lan> <20131219224754.GD51116@mordor.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:46:13 -0000 On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:47:54 +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:31:22AM +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to build a custom FreeBSD memstick for my Soekris box. > > Everything runs fine except when I'm doing the $> make memstick target > > with sudo, I'v put the logs here: https://dpaste.de/TOOU > > > > Any idea why does it fails..? > > No one on this .. ? YAFIYGI. :-) > Should I submit a bug report ? >From the messages at https://dpaste.de/TOOU/raw (better readability this way) I would conclude that you're running into a problem with make's -C parameter and the ~ interpretation because the path names look mangled: mkdir /home/mage/soekris10dst//usr/home/mage/soekris10obj/usr/home/mage/soekris10/release/dist/doc Also an earlier command executed by make looks wrong: cd /usr/home/mage/soekris10/release/.. && make TARGET_ARCH=amd64 TARGET=amd64 distributeworld DISTDIR=/usr/home/mage/soekris10obj/usr/home/mage/soekris10/release/dist The path is "doubled" here, whereas the the upper example shows a "concatenation" (notice the "//"). Maybe sudo is also involved here, because "make -j 3 -C ~/soekris10 buildworld buildkernel" didn't seem to get any problems. How about trying su instead of sudo? I cannot explain this entirely, but I assume this is the result of too many variable resolutions (the environmental settings, the command line parameters) and probably a strange kind of precedence... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 01:49:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E72B9845 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95F41DD8 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6F127654; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:49:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id rBK1nDCJ010392; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:49:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:49:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog Message-Id: <20131220024913.96ce29d5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20131219234313.GA69059@glaze.hydra> References: <52B32502.3020403@qeng-ho.org> <20131219234313.GA69059@glaze.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:49:35 -0000 On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:43:13 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:55:30PM +0000, Arthur Chance wrote: > > On 19/12/2013 15:45, krad wrote: > > > I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the > > > normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people > > > > > > http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > I hope its some ones bad taste in humour > > > > Just remember, any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from > > a genuine kook. See also Poe's Law. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law > > I don't think this particular troll blog passes the (stomach) Tur(n)ing > test. This is because it hardly passes the spell / "correct use of language" checker. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD261217 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [96.28.178.143] ([96.28.178.143:65456] helo=localhost) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F5/32-17005-43F34B25; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:59:32 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:59:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:59:33 -0000 > Do this website have a relation to trollaxor.com? They have a fantasy > about Apple Computer making FreeBSD: > * http://www.trollaxor.com/2004/02/thank-apple-for-freebsd.html > * http://www.trollaxor.com/2008/11/freebsd-owes-apple-big.html > * http://www.trollaxor.com/2012/05/freebsd-x-berkeley-unix-apple-quality.html > They use a lot time to hate OpenBSD and make outrageous claims, and > the latest story is about new 64-bit OS/2 Warp version, wtf?! > Is this the same person or do more than one person really use their > time to make this kind of fiction?! > -Guillermo OpenBSD's lack of support for GPT and USB 3.0 are enough to dissuade me: can not run on my hard drive. I ran OS/2 through Warp 4 (32-bit) until the single-digit days of April 2001, when following a crash, chkdsk ran automatically on reboot, ran amok and trashed my hard-drive data. I was never able to boot OS/2 Warp after that, even from floppies. 64-bit OS/2 Warp? I never heard of that, thought IBM abandoned OS/2 long ago. But there is a not-well-known successor eComStation (www.ecomstation.com); I browse that web site very infrequently. I imagine OS/2 Warp and eComStation have fallen behind FreeBSD for hardware support over the years. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 13:36:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33FB2C3C for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com (mail-qc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E60791542 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m20so2153997qcx.36 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:36:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XOfZF93S+YWZYCWgFSY517jR5EMV37hyUgJjpMxBMuo=; b=x15XNjaYdNGVTi7c6XoPApxi2U1ns0cJ5JvHIzYJn4bfCQGFIurO9I7C2GVZfvaMTR /V7kQAyZmTZ3xc1e98ZTSzIZGN6bzF8uyMDk1sDkA1UPekBYuhPrO0em0h4jzhbtHPt0 B91O2ebpmlIXAiM9nifLsaCOkImgOdF+axuA4Ckxv9vIb3seOIzb8hASGhNHUH6fOG+v 6Aho17iMmlOFQvpEi85q8G70DPwq5R33MLHokNx8GiK31sGax4GTeTp033YmRugow6qc AQhLafQ32W0uS/Yiyp4Hnx8XkFz3RBgQFKWitG4jJFpPrwlMBncIJKWogInz+oPgzfL0 /1qA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.35.112 with SMTP id g16mr13758433qej.13.1387546586152; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:36:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.151.73 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:36:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:36:26 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VLHni25-XVNmXLnmtJQUrKLzEuo Message-ID: Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog From: CeDeROM To: Thomas Mueller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:36:27 -0000 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > (..) > I was never able to boot OS/2 Warp after that, even from floppies. Hey Tom I got your floppy: http://faildesk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/win8_floppy.jpg :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 15:12:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCDA8D27 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x241.google.com (mail-qa0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72F321D2B for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f65.google.com with SMTP id o15so837585qap.4 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RxmR4lTip6nv60mj+uPhXpa1otyC6N3t2Y+wjJaSlgY=; b=bnia6EKywAfRZsST+osWcUqKJDr2BPxvuW2FRN3aFmdVd7ytIzzCRUvqle4UoMosDs 2kog96B7rRRZqHmd9tFR65RS6fxjAKzJ62eFPfqnHToqtMTxJZ+kC+82WcuzzhwBkftH F65Dw5FdXVYswJ6q9KMrCj6v4XtACUTL65woo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RxmR4lTip6nv60mj+uPhXpa1otyC6N3t2Y+wjJaSlgY=; b=YhavP7li3Nh0DEqDSmgWMcwb7D4xXUtJWhqVag99gGEzxQEZsgEm/8MZfWhJat6tzk qp6u4ZpJrs/gmWt/rIxBdW3NkQWN6ISpNYaDtkmxacqNY9JeTZ2Ihpm9mx1U8J10rjGX //jXYo8gHoDxAQLSEseXd5yvha43QLMR/Z/P1ijc+Q+dqodbsAbTw/DvxEIZtE5rK54/ Spx7Sv8rQ8byoBgM/7IAplvxYnWKQiSaPvG8ZtmoQMcF5i8plgfhLZAj/iOvmvzCJfdP E9y7yQyImZNBIK5GSWaEmliSbCsSajAl19KBj0DSNUA/uGejQHxGveqEEfrW6o4nAtyh kt2g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnH44CAzSDt8hHW06KUdm8RghEhA+lRCIyAPkLUS7Dyr4zTp82iJ+aBXEanH/rnQ7DuoXuq X-Received: by 10.224.13.141 with SMTP id c13mr7130489qaa.76.1387552323440; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm15715073qat.10.2013.12.20.07.12.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 10:12:00 -0500 From: Jerry To: User questions Subject: ASLR and FreeBSD 10 Message-ID: <20131220101200.06e3bff6@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: User questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:12:04 -0000 Is "ASLR" support included in FreeBSD 10 or does it have to be specifically compiled into the kernel? I was looking for a definitive answer but could not find one. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 18:28:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DE9DC9E for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC0B1DD0 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id 3uRl1n003516WCc01uRmvu; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:25:46 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=eoTmkOZX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=mSnCZvPJBnkA:10 a=2-204XODp10A:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=vGReivkp5TkA:10 a=MDi3RxEwYJxtODwtC9MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Vu4la-0001sW-SC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:25:45 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: FreeBSD questions Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:25:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p7; KDE/4.10.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201312201825.41641.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Invalid attribute 'name' in /usr/local/etc/fonts/local.conf Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:28:57 -0000 curlew:/usr/local/etc/fonts# fc-cache -f Fontconfig error: "local.conf", line 27: invalid attribute 'name' Fontconfig error: "local.conf", line 35: invalid attribute 'name' Fontconfig error: "local.conf", line 43: invalid attribute 'name' Fontconfig error: "local.conf", line 51: invalid attribute 'name' This appears to be the offending section of /usr/local/etc/fonts/local.conf fixed mono console mono mono 100 Helvetica sans-serif This is as suggested in section 6.5.1 of the FreeBSD Handbook but deleting name="family" from the 'match' lines gets rid of the error messages. Is this an error in the handbook or am I doing something wrong? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 19:50:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 158D7CF3 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC43614BD for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261717010; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:50:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <52B49F76.3010002@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:50:14 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Subject: Re: connecting servers on lan to internet References: <52AF88D5.4050908@hdk5.net> <20131217064310.e423fca3e72e348a9b9f047e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20131217064310.e423fca3e72e348a9b9f047e@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:50:22 -0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:12:21 -1000 > Al Plant wrote: > >> If I NAT the two servers to the lan and direct the DNS to the single >> line IP will that work? > > Frank has given good advice on how to do it. It will work fine > *provided* your ISP is giving you a public IP address not a private one > behind their own NAT and they are not blocking incoming traffic to the > ports you use (25, 80 and perhaps 443). Also if the IP is public but > dynamic (like mine) then you will need a dynamic DNS entry somewhere. > > I do much the same thing here, I had to request an opening for > incoming port 25 from my ISP since they block it by default. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aloha, Thanks Steve and Frank for checking my concept. I will be working with the ISP on testing the open ports before I start moving anything over. Thanks for the suggestions. Happy Holidays. Al ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 20 21:08:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 665139D5 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 326D81A85 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBKKcgqM048446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:38:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:38:42 -0600 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: How to Stop IMAP & LMTPUNIX from logging SQL engine 'mysql' not supported Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: <4618c0cd6e7730f4d5265037c280e45c@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0-beta X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:08:51 -0000 I have a server setup that runs sendmail along with Cyrus IMAP, and SASLAUTH, its working fine, in fact I am sending this message through the server. However ever since I set up the server, and throughout several upgrades I have consistently been receiving the following messages in /var/log/messages. Dec 20 14:17:28 webmail imaps[47553]: SQL engine 'mysql' not supported Dec 20 14:17:28 webmail imaps[47553]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available Dec 20 14:17:51 webmail lmtpunix[47578]: SQL engine 'mysql' not supported Dec 20 14:17:51 webmail lmtpunix[47578]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available I have the server setup to use saslauthd, which is set to use sasldb as the back end, I can't find anywhere where its set to try mysql as the back end. which would be causing these error messages, as I don't have mysql Installed, and never intend to. # From /usr/local/etc/imapd.conf sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd # From /etc/rc.conf cyrus_imapd_enable="YES" saslauthd_enable="YES" saslauthd_flgas="-a sasldb" sendmail_enable="YES" # From /var/db/ports Options files. mail_cyrus-imapd24/options:OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL security_cyrus-sasl2/options:OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL Anyone have any ideas what settings I am missing so that it stops trying to authenticate against the non existent mysql back end? -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 21 02:21:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA70787 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 02:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D331E4D for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 02:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7875027368 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:21:29 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <52B4FB29.5080409@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:21:29 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130516 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: has anyone read this blog References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 02:21:38 -0000 On 12/20/13 04:17, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > >> krad wrote: >> >>> I stumbled across it today and it seems to go a little further than the >>> normal os bashing and could be being liable about a few people >>> >>> http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> I hope its some ones bad taste in humour >> Oh yes - many a FreeBSD'r has seen this before. When I am in serious need >> of >> some lulz I check it out. Some serious laughs here. >> >> Anyone who has a desire to be a super-troll should study these writings in >> detail. This guy is the Uber-Troll of all trolls. Definitely and art form >> where he's concerned. >> >> -Mike >> >> > However misleading he might be, and incorrect in every aspect, there are > and will remain those that buy into the crap he writes. > He should be brought to light on the web, and responded to in full for all > the BS hes posted. Until refuted it can and has the > potential always to cause doubt amongst potential users. FreeBSD should > somehow defend itself and expose the idiots. > Not worth the electrons. Anyone with enough sense can look at the facts (and will do so thoroughly), and decide accordingly. Ranting on either side gets no where and doesn't change anyone's mind. Meanwhile, the work can go on and time spent productively - actions speak louder than words. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 21 15:07:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99415726 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thetys.cloudzeeland.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 591D41B3D for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thetys.cloudzeeland.nl (thetys.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.31]) by thetys.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814BD1644555 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:01:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.70] (unknown [10.10.10.70]) by thetys.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 665E61644576 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:01:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52B5AE8C.1040207@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:06:52 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Rescheduling passed cronjobs X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on thetys.cloudzeeland.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:07:00 -0000 [FreeBSD 9 stable] Let's say that my server was down for some reason. Can you tell me how I can force crontab to run all overdue/missed cronjobs after I have restarted my FreeBSD? Thanks, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 21 15:13:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F7997F7 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x232.google.com (mail-vc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F38391CC5 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id lh4so2111492vcb.9 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:13:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=N0609PMSY4ae/BwaIxPtaBxkHTO899ZE2SRi561Fnvk=; b=HSQ5OJVAvIVSGp3PiwfVGEuQ2ovFiWqvEob4YfmYMNfEAnFKPaSljJnoVwrm9CjNDD dcnMZ/T/DXUvJe0jIMMXgzzj+WciweVfZ77PjoOMCK9iktxJTIcu7mF+ZX+yvo1WgU4r i300gz8jHeDT46Ur+DVHdGtx+4Eoz+8lHE3AksFNTOzGdHA9p59itcspse8j1At5zXaT VGIgYhgYFe0FW0CWnAu5/zDuQPIKDx21OJ5nihe84YZ5tPequOagPMCrMPQ2CUFofkJK jyRUpXdz8EYw37qaR6RD0E311MyI/29Qx7va8C9oJ8qAmWygbXZXNJFT8UUrQQxloEIG FJXQ== X-Received: by 10.220.174.4 with SMTP id r4mr82333vcz.52.1387638824171; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:13:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.8.73 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:13:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52B5AE8C.1040207@webrz.net> References: <52B5AE8C.1040207@webrz.net> From: Anton Sayetsky Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rescheduling passed cronjobs To: Jos Chrispijn , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:13:45 -0000 2013/12/21 Jos Chrispijn : > [FreeBSD 9 stable] > Let's say that my server was down for some reason. Can you tell me how > I can force crontab to run all overdue/missed cronjobs after I have > restarted my FreeBSD? > Thanks, > Jos Chrispijn You cannot do this with cron. Anacron will help. 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