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Date:      Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:15:19 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jacques A. Vidrine" <n@nectar.com>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, Nick Sayer <nsayer@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: rand.c patch for review (was: Re: cvs commit: ports/astro/xglobe/files patch-random)
Message-ID:  <20010225151519.A63582@mollari.cthul.hu>
In-Reply-To: <20010226020827.A61007@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:08:28AM %2B0300
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:08:28AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
> > Yet it's still used bogusly for cryptographic needs - e.g. even
> > XFree86 4.x seems to use rand() for generating cookies, I discovered
> > last night (as a result of my rand() warning :-).  If we fix up rand()
> > to have a decent cryptographic behaviour, we save all the idiot
> > programmers from themselves.
>=20
> Bad news: we can't implement r_rand() via random() algorithm because
> r_rand() keeps its state in extenal unsigned variable (not in big table
> needed for random()). So, I suggest again to use my patch since it _is_
> r_rand() compatible.

Hmm.  Perhaps there's a way around that -- having a single state
variable really does weaken things here.  Anyone have any ideas?

Kris

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