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Date:      Sun, 21 Mar 2021 17:19:58 +0100
From:      Ralf Mardorf <>
Subject:   Re: OS to replace FreeBSD
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On Sun, 2021-03-21 at 11:47 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> The reasons for "why should they" are:
> 1. There is an almost infinite number of combinations of hardware that one
> can find out there and most of them are like the person you are replying to
> edge cases that effect very few people (as witnessed by you can't find
> anyone with a close enough system that is willing to actually do the work
> to test any fixes on...

Let's call this the "big reason why" and assume no undertone, just good

> so this leaves two options: a) you stop complaining
> and help actually fix the bug, b) you switch OS's.... either way stop
> publically whining about stuff you refuse to help with in an way and if you
> switch OS's this is the wrong forum to do it in -- in short STFU)

Is this still a required explanation?

> 2. They *DO* list hardware that is *KNOWN* to be 100% compatible and
> working with the base system if you are not using one of the listed
> components then you are venturing into unknown territory and any problems
> are on you to report and or help fix... if you decide to go this route then
> you have no one except yourself to blame when you run into "some assembly
> required" situations and likely you are one the few people that can help
> fix it... yet you refuse to...

Hard to ignore the undertone here ;). White and black lists are
imperfect, so be careful! However "likely you are one" + "yet you refuse
to" is an accusation.

> again STFU


Somebody who is frustrated kicks partly over the traces and you guess
that it helps anybody in the universe to be spiteful?

It might not be an excuse, but at least it's a good explanation why the
OP kicks over the traces, since the OP is frustrated that something
doesn't work.

There's neither an excuse, nor an explanation why you are doing the

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