From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 23 20:58:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3427F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:58:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B08C43D41 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:58:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1D43au-0004UJ-Qm; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:58:52 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:59:35 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200502231348.59409.algould@datawok.com> <1696077903.20050223212436@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1696077903.20050223212436@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502231459.35437.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc4d71df8e11bdea293d23aa0a7c3b293c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: Different OS's? Marketshare X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:58:56 -0000 On Wednesday 23 February 2005 02:24 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Andrew L. Gould writes: > > You can still find FreeBSD at Fry's Electronics and MicroCenter. I > > don't know if CompUSA still carries it. I have mixed feelings > > about FreeBSD 5.0-5.2.1 being sold in the retail market. > > How so? Seems like it would be a good idea to me. 5.0-5.2.1 weren't labelled "STABLE". I worry about the uninformed assuming they're buying a "STABLE" version. > > I see that one can still order 5.3 over the Internet. Since I burned > my own CDs I don't necessarily need it (although a more permanent CD > would be nice), but if I did buy it it would be mostly to support the > project (provided that the project got the money). > > > I see no similarity between Microsoft and Open Source OS vendors on > > either of these points. > > Perhaps the similarities will become more obvious with time. Perhaps you should apply for a position at Microsoft. After all, FUD is a Microsoft tactic. > > > Let's face it, without commercialism, Linux development would not > > have benefited from the likes of IBM or HP. Likewise, without > > commercialism, there would be very few, if any, *BSD or Linux > > developers performing open source development for a living. The > > money has to come from somewhere. > > True. It's virtually inevitable. No. Open Source projects could continue developing at the slow rate allowed by developers' spare time. _Fortunately_, that is not necessary. > > > Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing > > and packaging an operating system and its related applications. I > > am happy to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a > > DVD. It's only fair that the vendor be able to recover cost. If > > earning a little profit motivates them to continue providing a > > great service, all the better. > > Fine. Except that distributors are barely doing anything more than > repackaging someone else's work. They didn't write Linux. The distros (SUSE, for example) do quite of bit of distro-specific development (YAST, for example) and shared development (reiserfs, for example). They also fund Linux development by hiring Linux kernel and application developers. As for the vendors that just sell CD's, the prices vary with what the market will pay. There are plenty of very inexpensive sources for the *BSD or Linux CD's; so there's no excuse for anyone to pay too much. It's easy to be cynical; but you'll be much happier if you give reality a chance. Andrew Gould