From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 17 15:50:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rider.dunham.org (rider.dunham.org [207.170.123.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EB37B423 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dunham@localhost) by rider.dunham.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id RAA29811; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:49:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <20000917174931.P27592@rider.dunham.org> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:49:31 -0500 From: Jerry Dunham To: Greg Lehey , Mike Meyer Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Advanced File System on FreeBSD References: <121596976@toto.iv> <14789.649.22564.273240@guru.mired.org> <20000918074748.F67912@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <20000918074748.F67912@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:47:48AM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD rider.dunham.org 2.2.6-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 September 2000 at 7:47:48 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 17 September 2000 at 12:42:33 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Fri, 15 September 2000 at 11:37:37 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> > >> Years ago I ran Interactive UNIX System V.3, and I installed the > >> Norton Utilities for System V (yes, there was such a thing), which > >> included undelete. I don't think I ever used it. I also think that > >> the main thing stopping an implementation is that the people who could > >> implement it don't want it. > > > > Actually, there is a time when the people who could implement it do > > want it. That's when they are dealing with lots of newbies, and don't > > want to be bothered with requests to recover accidently deleted files > > from backups. > > I think you're looking at the "sysadmin for a large UNIX installation" > scenario here. Nowadays it's more likely to be "I just deleted all my > files, how do I get them back?" question, to which the hardened hacker > replies "read them in from last night's backup". That's easier than > writing complicated software. While I've managed to delete something I should have had on a backup tape, what I more commonly seem to kill off is something I just wrote twenty minutes earlier. I don't know of any backup scheme that helps in this case. It sure would be nice for the OS to protect me from my own stupidity at such times. > > Doing the script for rm solves that problem, and is much easier. > > Well, why don't you do it, then? If you do, please post it here. I'd like to consider trying it. Thanks for the enlightenment. -- Jerry Dunham FreeBSD (512)335-0674 (H) jdunham@fc.net jerry@dunham.org Lottery: A tax on people who are really bad at math To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message