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Date:      Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:28:40 -0700
From:      Nick Pavlica <linicks@gmail.com>
To:        Duo <duo@digitalarcadia.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT]
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Well said!  I completely agree.

--Nick


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:01 -0600 (CST), Duo <duo@digitalarcadia.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> 
> > Can we please STOP fueling Anthony's drivel?
> >
> > --Stijn
> >
> > --
> > Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
> >
> 
> I have two words for you: Mail Filtering.
> 
> Use it. It can work wonders on signal to noise ratio. He is not going to
> quit, ever.
> 
> Honestly, the whole disk thing reminds me of an experience with FreeBSD
> and an old gateway solo laptop.
> 
> I wanted to make better use of it, as it was given to me, and it had
> windows 98 on it. Now, when I went to install 5.3, the machine would boot
> off CD, but, completely bork upon trying to get the disk to work.
> 
> I popped in my 4.x CD, it worked with the disk fine. So, something must
> have changed. I scoured the list for similar/related issues. And, I found
> a simple setting change I could make at boot time, for the DMA settings,
> to get 5.3 installed. Made the same change in the .conf for boottime, and
> I was off and running.
> 
> What I did not do, was camp out on the list, make wild random accusations
> that FreeBSD was a bug infested nightmare, because windows worked, but the
> newest FreeBSD did not. Windows has a very high tolerance for errors,
> which it masks.Masking such things is typically by design, so as not to
> panic the person sitting in front of it. I have seen this time and again.
> It's not a reason to panic. Ever. Also consider, it shields alot of
> "sysadmins" from real issues, as opposed to forcing them to deal with them
> in a real positive way: researching the problem to solution. I think this
> is one of the core issues Anthony has: having been sheltered from any real
> issues such as these, he's not equipped.
> 
> Having worked to get LinuxPPC (when it was new) working with NewWorld
> Macs, and new powerbooks, there are always solutions, provided you dont
> act like a reprehensible jackass, who spouts off about their credentials,
> etc, ad infinitum, as a justification for bowing to their irrational and
> asinine behavior.
> 
> The bottom line is, this guy will never go away. He dosent "get it", so to
> speak. He dosent understand the fundamentals of open source methodology,
> he does not have a clear, concise, and professional understanding of how
> development, or any kind of rational sense of how the troubleshooting
> method works. He has zero clue as to how one can apply isolation logic,
> and all he wants to do is say, "it worked on NT, now you better make it
> work for me, or else your product sucks, and you are not a real developer
> if you don't pander to my every whim".
> 
> In the end, yes, he is annoying. But, you can take steps to avoid him, his
> posts, and the replies. Set up mail rules, procmail, whatever you need to
> do. And, while this may be a hassle, a good set of mail filtering
> templates is always a good idea, because Anthony is not the first flaming
> troll to ever be on this, or any mailing list, and he will not be the
> last. You would do well to accept this, start filtering replies, and bask
> in the new found signal to noise ratio.
> 
> I have him blocked, but, not the replies. I think mostly, the list mages
> are handling him well, and, reading the fallout is far more entertaining.
> 
> --
> Duo
> 
> Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of
> suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system
> administration.
>         --Philip Greenspun
> 
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