Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:24:45 +0100 From: Paul Robinson <paul@akita.co.uk> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> Cc: David Scheidt <dscheidt@tumbolia.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Milo Hyson <milo@cyberlifelabs.com>, Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010914152445.H3356@jake.akitanet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <xzp66alubgp.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>; from des@ofug.org on Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:51:50PM %2B0200 References: <Pine.BSF.4.32L2.0109140842290.21471-100000@shell-3.enteract.com> <xzp66alubgp.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
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On Sep 14, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote: > "Americans have never shrunk from battle, nor have we ever given in, > and we will not do so now." If that isn't hollow rhetoric, I don't know what is... dear, oh dear. You see, this is the problem with people in power. They think they have to fight. If they thought to themselves 'actually, we could just try and talk to the people behind this' then perhaps the world would be a nicer place. But then, I'm only 23 so probably don't 'understand' the world. Ho-hum. > "Something has happened that had never happened before: in one stroke, > so many people were killed, all of them innocent" ROFL. This guy believed what he was saying, right? > America is in serious need of a lesson in humility and historical > perspective, though I concede that this is a horrible way to learn > such a lesson, and I would not wish it upon anyone. Well, first of all, I don't think America does - I think these individuals and those running the media (or at least running the interviews) do. There was some very interesting debating going on last night on a BBC program you may not know - Question Time - regarding these issues and the attitudes 'America' has to 'The World' and 'The World' has to 'America'. I think the problems caused by collective grouping and stereo-typing like that might be something that this event will help make history - the enemy is not 'Muslims' or 'Afghanistan', but rather 20+ people. Many are starting to realise that now. On the 'good' side, it now looks like the original death toll figures were overestimates. The Register is reporting that even though Morgan Stanley had 3,500 employees over 25 floors of the WTC, only 15 are currently missing which is bordering on miraculous. If you consider that out of over 50,000 people less than 5,000 are still missing, AND people are still coming out of there alive, things are starting to look a hell of a lot more miraculous than they did when it first happened. Not much comfort to those whose loved ones are one of the 5,000 still unaccounted for though. -- PR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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