From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 01:59:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5AAED57 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 01:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1AB1710 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 01:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markhams-MacBook-Pro.local (rageous.ssimicro.com [64.247.134.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t041xMGp010077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:59:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <54A89E7C.1030002@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:59:24 -0700 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind domain and subdomain on same machines References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 01:59:35 -0000 By default named listens on all available interfaces, so a single instance of named should do what you need. If you need to run a second nameserver, you could set "listen-on { };" for each named.conf, but at that point I would probably consider running them in jails. You could also do something sneaky like hard-linking the zone files to ensure consistency. I'm really not too sure I understand what you are trying to achieve though. You don't need to split off the subdomain to a separate name server, and there usually is not much point in running two name servers on one host. -M On 2015-01-03 2:40 PM, helen ly wrote: > hi > can I configure Secondary DNS Server on same primary machine > I have virtual interfaces > i want to make as a domain(primary) and a subdomain(secondary) > can this be archievd only with one zone file for two(domain,subdomain) = and one named.conf.local > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 03:10:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDA06431 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DA2812BA for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [79.225.199.229] (helo=max2.muc.opensauce.de) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7bZs-00022Z-EM; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:10:04 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command From: Stephen Riehm In-Reply-To: <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 04:10:04 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0BD26196-094C-48A3-BAAE-80F753658EF3@opensauce.de> References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> To: =?windows-1252?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Df-Sender: Mjg4MTc3 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 03:10:13 -0000 Hi guys, >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules >> for the commands you want. Wise words :-) > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > example of git: >=20 > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs =97 the latter > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). >=20 > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > into account =97 but frankly, I did not try very hard. You're right that the " [options] [options] " style which has emerged in recent years is not what most completion systems were designed to cope with, and to be honest, you'd need a = database to handle all of the *valid* combinations in many cases... also, the = more the shell tries to complete, the more easily it can be confused. (e.g. git push 'v' git pull, "git p" is no longer enough, and even "git pu" needs extra correction - and once you've typed "pus" or "pul" completion doesn't help you any more either - it's still one more key-stroke) As is so often the case, you can try for perfect, or you can be happy with 'good enough' or even 'works for me' :-) In this case, grep through your history and see which commands and = options you use a lot and focus on them. I've been using some custom tcsh completions and scripts to help improve my git command line experience for a few years now,=20 (but not pkg etc.). Rather than just waving my hands in the air, I've = pulled them together and put them up on github for your perusal. If you're interested, you can find them at = https://github.com/cobber/git-tools Perhaps there's some ideas in there to help you put together something = for pkg. Cheers, Steve= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 05:09:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03626E68 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A840F3247 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t0459XPb039831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t0459WMS039828; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Jan 2015 22:09:33 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 05:09:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Grünewald wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> The C shell is the system's _default_ interactive shell. >> This statement does not carry any judgmental statement. :-) > > I was not sure any more about this, so I went lazy and blurry. :) > >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules >> for the commands you want. > > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > example of git: > > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs ? the latter > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). > > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 05:54:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8BD24BF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CC8F6493E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3888E3CD85; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t045sJg7002009; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command Message-Id: <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=FCnewald?= , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 05:54:24 -0000 On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Gr=FCnewald wrote: >=20 > > Polytropon wrote: > >> The C shell is the system's _default_ interactive shell. > >> This statement does not carry any judgmental statement. :-) > > > > I was not sure any more about this, so I went lazy and blurry. :) > > > >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say > >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules > >> for the commands you want. > > > > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > > example of git: > > > > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs ? the latter > > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). > > > > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > > into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. >=20 > Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions Your completition suggestion was the one I've been refering to. It's very nicely done, but of course it won't be possible to cope with all imaginable combinations of commands and subcommands and their specific options. Trying to have all all of them autocompleted, plus the many GNU long style options, would probably too much for a shell - and the main- tainer of the completition list to always keep it current and valid. :-) Anyway, your list (and the comment header explaining the syntax) is a good base to build on. In the special case of "git push" and "git pull" which are fully equivalent up to the 's' or 'l', it could be possible to alias them, where the alias is "earlier unambiguous", and then have that alias autocompleted. Here a combination of aliases and completition patterns could work more reliably than just completition. It is, however, debatable in how far this should be part of the OS preconfiguration. I'm happy about the C shell now having adopted a normal UNIX prompt, but I wouldn't assume that everyone on earth would be happy with my ls defaults as _his_ defaults: % grep -i ls /etc/csh.cshrc | less alias ls 'ls -FG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' alias ll 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxege :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 07:36:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B58B9C44 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (smtp-out12.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532941700 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435BD3301278F60 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:36:44 +0100 Message-ID: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:36:44 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg upgrade question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 07:36:46 -0000 If I do portsnap fetch update pkg version -vIL= I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded Building new INDEX files... done. cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) If I do pkg version I'll see the same packages marked with a < Then I do pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. And it says that all packages are up to date! Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? I'm a bit confused. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 07:50:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99760D7D for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C29297F for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p10so26164541pdj.27 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VFUExfUt1gPy12RLvVqIGbIG7v4iQwj9YDO+A2afx/U=; b=rAQpx7yeomdsRjkSDentWEcfn1e4+wowgzyBU2+/FpXEEOEsFFBSB4PJKr4H9fw6fc lQbbZTA0HJos4m4ZtWvYR8UB68uiPCJwAGFXzwWLLbxMRkHgv/q6Cmt1T+NRmDCKJ5lA prV557l+W1YjNzPVXL7baPUuQzN1l59K+Y9HvbOysbQZfNY3YJKN029mJykHCJcVgxWY bv6BMR36hWASC7HnT4XAELAGpz6YwTXRPIBT4uizvcGdhQxzQhgLKGPRSwa9eOBtTo++ LKHG7jJ2H2feVa12r8s0FPaVRtA/9hm7ejy3mYCd9H8dT7+mkmt1u8YIV20IEiuoKYI4 HfJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.134.3 with SMTP id pg3mr138416530pbb.84.1420357818777; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.90.203 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question From: Zsolt Udvari To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 07:50:19 -0000 The ports tree and the package repository aren't equal, the ports tree is the newer. The packages will build from ports tree on every Wednesday. If you run "pkg upgrade" it will check the package repository, the "pkg version" compares your installed versions and ports tree - this is the reason of difference. If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use "pkg version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation :) Zsolt 2015-01-04 8:36 GMT+01:00 Leslie Jensen : > > If I do > > portsnap fetch update > pkg version -vIL= > > I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded > > Building new INDEX files... done. > cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) > gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) > libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) > noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) > pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) > squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) > > If I do > pkg version > > I'll see the same packages marked with a < > > Then I do > pkg upgrade > > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Your packages are up to date. > > And it says that all packages are up to date! > > Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? > > I'm a bit confused. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 08:01:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D05B9EB8 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (smtp-out12.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A95A2BAC for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435BD33012795F3; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:00:59 +0100 Message-ID: <54A8F33B.8030506@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:00:59 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zsolt Udvari Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:01:02 -0000 Zsolt Udvari skrev 2015-01-04 08:50: > The ports tree and the package repository aren't equal, the ports tree is > the newer. The packages will build from ports tree on every Wednesday. > > If you run "pkg upgrade" it will check the package repository, the "pkg > version" compares your installed versions and ports tree - this is the > reason of difference. > If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use "pkg > version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation :) > > Zsolt > > > 2015-01-04 8:36 GMT+01:00 Leslie Jensen : > >> If I do >> >> portsnap fetch update >> pkg version -vIL= >> >> I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded >> >> Building new INDEX files... done. >> cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) >> gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) >> libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) >> noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) >> pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) >> squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) >> >> If I do >> pkg version >> >> I'll see the same packages marked with a < >> >> Then I do >> pkg upgrade >> >> >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> All repositories are up-to-date. >> Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% >> Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> Your packages are up to date. >> >> And it says that all packages are up to date! >> >> Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? >> >> I'm a bit confused. >> >> Thanks >> >> /Leslie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thank you very much for clarifying :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 11:36:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D0EADE0 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE2B536E5 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id bncH1p004516WCc01ncJa4; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:20 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=T7ICTp6Q c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=cYTjFNdXV1EA:10 a=YNv0rlydsVwA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=tJa2htEO8CC4ZWrgjWcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pQwrMmy2vHIA:10 a=tUSzFODZPqcA:10 a=gWmOFBW1Y4AA:10 a=J_x5q8_hs_aYxOwebjcA:9 a=yA-dOUzFY9CLK4al:21 a=J6dxw5TVKwKILgaQ:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7jTj-0001D3-T9; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:17 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:16:52 +0000 Message-ID: <3260976.9592SAMzda@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.14.2; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Leslie Jensen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sunday 04 Jan 2015 08:50:18 Zsolt Udvari wrote: > If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use > "pkg version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation Alternatively you can use svn or svnlite to synchronise your ports tree with the snapshot which was used for the packages currently in the repository. This is an advantage if you build some packages from ports since it ensures you don't get any dependency conflicts. This was recently discussed in a thread in ports@ . A script for synchronising the ports tree for poudriere was posted in . I don't use poudriere so I've modified a copy of the script to synchronise /usr/ports instead of the poudriere jails. The script works for 64 bit 10.x-RELEASE. For 8.x or 9,x you'll need to change the value of JAIL. If you're using 32 bit I think you'll need to change SERVER to beefy1.isc.freebsd.org as well as changing JAIL but there appears to be a problem with the website at the moment so I can't check. -- Mike Clarke --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC Content-Disposition: inline; filename="portsync" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; name="portsync" #!/bin/sh # Copyright (c) 2014 Reed A. Cartwright # # Modified by Mike Clarke to use /usr/ports instead of poudriere # # This script determines the revision number used to build FreeBSD packages # and syncs a local ports directory to match it. # # USAGE: portsync # # REQUIREMENTS: textproc/jq SERVER=beefy2.isc.freebsd.org JAIL=10amd64-default URL="http://${SERVER}/data/${JAIL}/.data.json" PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin PORTSDIR=/usr/ports # Fetch data from server JSON=`fetch -qo - $URL` if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then >&2 echo "ERROR: Unable to fetch data from package server." exit 1 fi # Parse Revision information from server REV=`echo "${JSON}" | jq -r '.builds[.builds.latest].svn_url | split("@")[1]'` # Check revision information if expr "$REV" : '^[[:digit:]][[:digit:]]*$' >/dev/null; then # Skip update if revisions are in sync CURREV=`svnlite info "${PORTSDIR}" | sed -ne '/^Revision: /s/^Revision: //p'` echo "====>> Updating ${PORTSDIR} from revision ${CURREV} to ${REV}" if [ "${CURREV}" -ne "${REV}" ]; then svnlite up -r "${REV}" "${PORTSDIR}" else echo No update needed fi else >& echo "ERROR: Unable to determine revision number for latest packages." exit 1 fi --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 12:40:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA3C6CAE for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478601240 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id em10so1730273wid.11 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J9QZ3A1dH+TxpKJugYfgyKXxCSmKA0PRe/+O6Mx+8g4=; b=hW0jWe1R+Wnyg/s5/4h3AGfRhufNywX6PsWkY5SUoE4y9/J0Yx/9U1yh++MXtlPhHw uv89B4+q+1ay1lEdJCuMK6BnbYeS8EHqaZxmTfZv0+0YLuWwyk3nH5dDs4Of0FX2jRCJ 5KPmukhSlCxcjNERtqnnPhOH15t/r69CfAyeRGT5iPb7enYWcvudksNntCt4dq5Na/3E 5yW8+Hzpew65YZdY+CbJ1J65QmAj8ECfHMofqFaLyq/APdiOE1kwNLo77e71deO5/etU jLzJr+0c9K/0sDR73FzOI2Ek0nKZiaYE52WhJBjEnh1nqy6TCwgAy9NkafTKIniOHqa2 mZVw== X-Received: by 10.180.103.201 with SMTP id fy9mr15753088wib.31.1420375254746; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.63] (xdsl-89-0-134-33.netcologne.de. [89.0.134.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fx6sm71394652wjc.39.2015.01.04.04.40.53 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:40:46 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:40:56 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions Hi Warren, your completions look very interesting! Do you mind if I include and rework them with due credit in https://github.com/michipili/tcshfiles It is distributed under CECILL-B, a BSD-style license. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 14:33:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7E74BB3 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp546-45.vip.sina.com.cn (r3-67.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AFE3242E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown( HELO agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com)([172.16.53.128]) by vip.sina.com with SMTP 4 Jan 2015 22:33:03 +0800 (CST) X-Sender: jzsf+==znjlzwjzzc1xdwvzdglvbnnaznjlzwjzzc5vcmc===@vip.sina.com X-SMAIL-MID: 6447817691300 Received: by agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E069489BE7; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0800 (CST) Auther: VipMail_1.0 (REM) From: To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaZW11bGF0ZSBhIFhvcmcgY29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiBvZiBHTlUvTGludXggKEZlZG9yYSAyMSkgb24gRnJlZUJTRA==?= Sender: jzsf+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@vip.sina.com MIME_version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Message-Id: <20150104143304.4E069489BE7@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0800 (CST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:33:13 -0000 5bey5pS25Yiw5oKo55qE5p2l5L+h77yBDQogICAgICAgICDosKLosKLvvIENCiAgICAgICAgICAg ICDojYblt57nm5vlj5E= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 14:35:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8893C95 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A71D22465 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330A93CE87; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04EZnVp002302; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:35:54 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:26:58 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, but in FreeBSD, I can't > get the image in the VGA external output port. > [...] > Do you have any idea about this topic? Any comments? Is this a laptop which still has keys on the keyboard for selecting the output (internal / internal+external / external), usually a key combination of "Fn" and a function key? If you haven't yet: Try those. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:14:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66BF9121 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3463264924 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-218.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t04F7TKI002808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:07:29 -0600 Message-ID: <54A958A7.20202@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:13:43 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:14:07 -0000 On 01/04/15 01:36, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > If I do > > portsnap fetch update > pkg version -vIL= > > I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded > > Building new INDEX files... done. > cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) > gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) > libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) > noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) > pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) > squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) > > If I do > pkg version > > I'll see the same packages marked with a < > > Then I do > pkg upgrade > > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Your packages are up to date. > > And it says that all packages are up to date! > > Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? > > I'm a bit confused. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have noticed similar behavior. I have also noticed that if you do the 'pkg version -vIL= ' *before* any portsnap or portmaster, it works as expected. I usually do just that, any package upgrades, followed by a portsnap to refresh the ports. I *only* use pkg by default for my package maintenance, however I do have flash support on board for Opera & Firefox, which necessitates some ports upgrades as well (flash support is *only* available as a port, not a pkg). I am on FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p5, BTW, w/ all packages upgraded last week. HTH & happy new year .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:18:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF551E4 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0791364982 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04FITbo089039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t04FIStb089036; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:28 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:18:29 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:18:35 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Grnewald wrote: >>> >>> It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent >>> completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand >>> into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. >> >> Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions > > Your completition suggestion was the one I've been > refering to. It's very nicely done, but of course > it won't be possible to cope with all imaginable > combinations of commands and subcommands and their > specific options. Trying to have all all of them > autocompleted, plus the many GNU long style options, > would probably too much for a shell - and the main- > tainer of the completition list to always keep it > current and valid. :-) Yes, and the csh completion syntax is challenging for complex commands. An external program can be run to provide completions, and that's probably the way to go for the really complex ones. I've avoided that so far, but complex commands with subcommands like git, pkg, zfs, and svn might be easier, clearer, or more maintainable to do that way. > It is, however, debatable in how far this should be > part of the OS preconfiguration. I'm happy about the > C shell now having adopted a normal UNIX prompt, but > I wouldn't assume that everyone on earth would be > happy with my ls defaults as _his_ defaults: > > % grep -i ls /etc/csh.cshrc | less > alias ls 'ls -FG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' > alias ll 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' > setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxege Completions are not really the same kind of problem, or at least they don't differ because people use the same programs. I think of them as a sort of built-in help for input, helping to make legitimate choices rather than what I might remember. And I would like to see a much larger default set of autocompletions. They make so many commands easier to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:40:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53F3262E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0824764C30 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04FeZMF094401 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t04FeZ8K094398; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Michael Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:40:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:40:41 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions > > Hi Warren, your completions look very interesting! Do you mind if I > include and rework them with due credit in > > https://github.com/michipili/tcshfiles > > It is distributed under CECILL-B, a BSD-style license. Sure, my list is a collection anyway. Many were collected from csh/tcsh examples and online sources, some I wrote by myself, and some were collaborations. The original "make" completion that showed all available targets was created with help from forum members. Then make(1) changed, and the new one made it much simpler. Incidentally, the completion for "make -V ", which should complete with all available make variables, does not yet work. The sharp-eyed will see a completion for kldreload, which does not exist in the wild but is an alias: alias kldreload 'kldunload \!* && sleep 0.1 && kldload \!*' (Used mostly for reloading the VirtualBox kernel module after a rebuild.) Some of these are integrated into /usr/share/examples/csh/dot.cshrc. There are more completions in /usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh, too. 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Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34849143F for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7oJr-0000dq-9l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 Received: from p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.2.45.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 Received: from christian.baer by p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Baer Subject: FreeBSD multiboot / was: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:09 +0100 Organization: Back Yard Shed Club Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:46:27 -0000 Warren Block wrote: >> This sentence actually rather suggests that you have not read my post >> (properly) before answering. > Your boot menu pointed out that FreeBSD was EFI and did not do that for > Windows. Also, Windows 7 UEFI installs are rare. Actually, there is no Windows boot loader when you do not use UEFI. This is the same as the dedicated freebsd-boot partition needed for FreeBSD. The Mainboard just recognised Windows and thus displayed the name of the OS. It does not seem to recognise FreeBSD so it just displayed "EFI OS". > Some UEFI systems can attempt legacy BIOS booting and then UEFI, and it > appeared that Windows 7 was booting in BIOS mode while FreeBSD was > installed for UEFI. Well, be that as it may, it no longer makes a difference as I have reinstalled both Windows and FreeBSD - using BIOS this time, not EFI. The reason was actually my nvidia driver which locked the system on boot. I thought this was a problem with the boot loader but as it turned out is was because the Linux compat had changed from 10.0 RELASE to 10.1 RELEASE. I might have to write about that some other time because the problems I had with my nvidia driver were not really documented and I'm having a hard time assuming that I'm the only one who ran into trouble trying to get that driver to work. Back to the old problem... :-) This time, I installed Windows first and FreeBSD after that. I did not find any option during the installation of the latter to install/setup a boot loader that allows me to choose the OS I wish to use. The result is that the Computer now only boots FreeBSD - which is fine with me until I want to do some gaming. :-) I have not ever tried to install Grub on a FreeBSD system. In theory it should work fine. Or is there something else I can/should use? Note that this is a machine with two swap bays for HDDs and these are used frequently. I use labels in my fstab because the computer's idea which drive is 1st seems to change depending on whether there is a drive in the bay or not. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:02:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D854C7 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C19B26E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C50327810; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04H2eUu002809; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:02:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:20:52 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have this keyboard: > > http://tinyurl.com/ltjj2a2 This one? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XJlzFI79lWQ/VFHSMP0KOsI/AAAAAAAAJOc/dVyuwlnbcMs/s1600/ES1_3.jpg > Your refer to "Fn" F5 and F6 keys ? Correct. > I try it and don't get output for > VGA external connector when I plugin it in HDMI input connector of TV. Ah! That could be the problem! HDMI isn't capable of mapping _all_ imaginable DVI (or VGA) outputs generated by a computer. This usually shows that you can use a TV as a computer monitor in many cases, but not in all cases. This might be such a case. A common problem seems to be that HDMI probably doesn't transmit the DDC information properly, so the external screen isn't detected correctly, and therefore all the autodetect magic fails. Another problem could be that those keys don't work, or to be precise: They require a proprietary driver to work, which means that their function is not "in the laptop", but "in the vendor-supplied software", which is bad. > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 The significant parts are: Section "Device" Identifier "Card1" Driver "vesa" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Maybe you cannot use VESA together with the limited range of valid HDMI resolutions... > Any idea ? First, try to load X with the correct driver for the video "card" in your system. Then you can go ahead and fine-tune xorg.conf with the _actual_ configuration data of the TV screen: size (inches or centimeters), pixels (the _real_ number of them), DPI and so on. You can define the settings for the mode it supports. Probably you have to review the technical parameters in the manual. You could use the following sections as templates: # snippet from /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Eizo" ModelName "FlexScan F980" HorizSync 30.0 - 137.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "DPMS" "false" DisplaySize 410 305 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "G73 [GeForce 7600 GS]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Screen 0 Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "UseEdid" "FALSE" Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" Option "DPI" "96 x 96" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Visual "TrueColor" Modes "1400x1050" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "320x240" EndSubSection EndSection # end of file snippet You can see some simplification here. Please note that this example is from my home computer which uses a CRT, so there is no "the one" screen size and no fixed DPI value. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:25:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352316B3 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E07E32B16 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7ovU-0000sX-L3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 Received: from p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.2.45.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 Received: from christian.baer by p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:04 +0100 Organization: Back Yard Shed Club Lines: 85 Message-ID: <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <20141231044849.ebf531c1.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:25:19 -0000 Polytropon wrote: >> Yes, I've read about that and the fact that it has been quite hard. This >> actually did surprise me a bit, considering that UEFI has been around >> for a while now. > > AS/400 is around since the 1980's, and still I can't find > a Linux or BSD that will run on it. ;-) There is no support for VAX either and that has been around even longer. :-P In Germany we'd say, this comparison is limping, because although quite entertaining, it doesn't quite get the essence of the problem. Meaning: While FreeBSD does not target AS/400, VAX or any PDP (just to get really ancient here :-)) architecture, it is aimed at modern PCs like AMD64, Intel- i or in my case Intel XEON based. Supporting UEFI is therefore a necessity since BIOS will probably die out sooner or later. Relax, I don't want to argue this through now and I understand your comment was meant as a joke. I just wanted to point out that UEFI is something we are going to have to deal with, whether we like it or not. > The problem with UEFI seems to be that, even though there > is documentation and attempts of standards, it's still a > tricky black box, and manufacturers don't want to tell what > goes on in their "micro OS" BIOS replacement. The usual problem of missing specs and documentation. I think this problem has been around since the rise of open source software and probably before that. OS/2 suffered from missing hardware support for similar reasons. I'm not sure when this arose though. I remember the documentation of my Epson EX-800 was rather lousy (as in noone really wanted to write that document and the result was what the customer go anyway), but it was enough for me to write a well working driver for my C=64. There was software around that could make the printer work (like PrintFox or PageFox), but what was missing was something that printed out pictures or graphics in colour. So I sat down and wrote something that worked. :-) When did the manufacturers start making a secret of everything? > Using the traditional FreeBSD boot manager would surely > be the more appealing option. Depending on if you can try > to use MBR partitioning instead of GPT (and therefore, > using the boot0 boot manager with MBR), this might be > worth a try. UEFI seemed to support both MBR and GPT. > But this is just a W.A.G., I don't have any UEFI hardware > here to verify, and I'm not a "multi-booter" anymrore, > sorry. Relax! I appreciate any help or ideas I get here. I don't expect you to try them out for me. Is boot0 the prefered way to go? Or are there other tools I should take a look at? At work I sit at a Linux machine and really don't miss Windows at all. The only time when I think Windows could do something better is when I try to do something non-standard. Those things usually work pretty easily under Windows. Example: I have never run into trouble installing the driver for my graphics board under Windows. Under FreeBSD? Different story. As it seems the Linux compat changed and now the driver won't compile because the required Linux compat is missing. Taking the Linux support out of the options when compiling lets it compile and be installed, but it won't load just the same. When I figured out what the problem was, I deinstalled the driver and reinstalled it via pkg install, which also installed the required Linux libs. I am expecting to run into trouble with that in the near future because the UPDATING files say I should only use the new versions. I will be spending most of my time under FreeBSD anyway. For gaming however, I have to boot Windows. :-) > This is the typical limitation by UEFI. If you can use > FreeBSD's boot manager, a default will be available which > will boot the desired FreeBSD if no action is taken at > system startup. But as far as I understand, this will > require MBR partitioning in combination with UEFI... I hope this also works for the combo BIOS/MBR. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:46:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3FAC0A for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp207.alice.it (smtp207.alice.it [82.57.200.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAA22E89 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (80.181.51.90) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 547D8BAA05A55A7F for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:40:53 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.1/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t04HejKs037044 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:40:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Blu ray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:44 -0000 Hello. I know the question has come up several times, but things change... Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO and writing it? What would be the maximum file size? Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:49:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F03BCAF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412292EB0 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04HKseA068429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:20:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:21:43 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Polytropon Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio , Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:49:15 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:20:52 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: [ snip ] >> I try it and don't get output for >> VGA external connector when I plugin it in HDMI input connector of TV. > > Ah! That could be the problem! I'll bet money that IS the problem. The solution is to use a display that supports the signal the laptop puts out - apparently VGA in this case. Failing that, use a laptop that puts out a signal format your display can accommodate - apparently HDMI in this case (but you could also use Display Port with a connector adaptor). > HDMI isn't capable of mapping _all_ imaginable DVI (or VGA) > outputs generated by a computer. This usually shows that you > can use a TV as a computer monitor in many cases, but not > in all cases. In this particular case - a device with VGA output feeding a display with HDMI input - I would not expect it ever to work. The VGA connector only carries anaolog video. HDMI only carries digital. I'm guessing that the OP is using a VGA to DVI-I adaptor cable, followed by a DVI-I to HDMI adaptor cable; this is the only setup I can think of that would even allow things to be plugged in. But as we've seen in past examples, having a plug that fits is necessary but not sufficient. Once that's resolved, then we can think about EDID and modes and so forth. [ snip ] -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:00:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 907FB395 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 229AF3083 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07254276DD; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04I00iC002947; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Message-Id: <20150104190000.c2cb035e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <20141231044849.ebf531c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:00:03 -0000 On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:04 +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > >> Yes, I've read about that and the fact that it has been quite hard. This > >> actually did surprise me a bit, considering that UEFI has been around > >> for a while now. > > > > AS/400 is around since the 1980's, and still I can't find > > a Linux or BSD that will run on it. ;-) > > There is no support for VAX either and that has been around even longer. :-P There's SimH and FreeVMS, that should be enough for everyone. And IBM /360 is around even _much_ longer, and still... oh wait, I can run Linux on /z now! :-) > In Germany we'd say, this comparison is limping, because although quite > entertaining, it doesn't quite get the essence of the problem. Meaning: > While FreeBSD does not target AS/400, VAX or any PDP (just to get really > ancient here :-)) architecture, it is aimed at modern PCs like AMD64, Intel- > i or in my case Intel XEON based. Supporting UEFI is therefore a necessity > since BIOS will probably die out sooner or later. I truly understand that problem, and I'm curious about upcoming solutions when UEFI starts getting all messed up and incompatible. Remember that in most cases, when some technology has been fully supported, it was quickly obsoleted by something different, and this applies for hardware, firmware, and sofware (think of APM, HAL, and so on). > Relax, I don't want to argue this through now and I understand your comment > was meant as a joke. I just wanted to point out that UEFI is something we > are going to have to deal with, whether we like it or not. I fully agree. In order to stay relevant, this will have to be supported. I also think that adding FreeBSD support for ARM is a move into the right direction. Just as a sidenote: http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/why-rosyna-cant-take-a-movie-screenshot.html It's worth having options so this doesn't happen to FreeBSD users. > The usual problem of missing specs and documentation. I think this problem > has been around since the rise of open source software and probably before > that. OS/2 suffered from missing hardware support for similar reasons. IBM could have open-sourced OS/2 and _maybe_ had a chance for a revival, but they missed that too. And: eComStation isn't much more than OS/2 on artificial life support... :-) > I'm not sure when this arose though. I remember the documentation of my > Epson EX-800 was rather lousy (as in noone really wanted to write that > document and the result was what the customer go anyway), but it was enough > for me to write a well working driver for my C=64. In the past, documentation was an essential part of most computer products. Especially for peri- pherial devices such as printers or modems, it was much more than a "set-up cheat sheet". Even today I'm happy to have them _as paper_ for the few occassions I have to write custom software for very special printers, dealing with much more special kinds of documents. Being able to know how to make the printer do what I want is a requirement, solved by good documentation. Providing documentation was a valid selling point. Today you'd probably say: There's the Internet, all the stuff is on the web! But especially the low-level stuff is considered a trade secret, not something developers (or users) should have access to. > When did the manufacturers start making a secret of everything? Since it paid, because people stopped caring. Keep in mind that creating documentation adds costs to the final product, and whenever 1/2 cent can be spared, it will, especially when you omit something that "nobody ever" is interested in. > Is boot0 the prefered way to go? Or are there other tools I should take a > look at? Yes, I'd say so. See "man boot0cfg" and also have a look at "man gpart" on how to install it (except you want to use fdisk, which should still work). > At work I sit at a Linux machine and really don't miss Windows at all. The > only time when I think Windows could do something better is when I try to do > something non-standard. Those things usually work pretty easily under > Windows. This is where you can see the tight cooperation of the manufacturers of hardware and software with the MICROS~1 corporation. The newer something is, the better it tends to work. But don't try to use working hardware that's now considered "too old"... ;-) > I will be spending most of my time under FreeBSD anyway. For gaming however, > I have to boot Windows. :-) This is a situation which will also change in the future, as several game makers have already been expressing their frustration about today's "Windows" versions. There seems to be a (slow!) shift towards Linux as a gaming platform. It's probably to early to say that it's a "1st class citizen", but maybe this will happen when there's enough money in it. > > This is the typical limitation by UEFI. If you can use > > FreeBSD's boot manager, a default will be available which > > will boot the desired FreeBSD if no action is taken at > > system startup. But as far as I understand, this will > > require MBR partitioning in combination with UEFI... > > I hope this also works for the combo BIOS/MBR. The _traditional_ concept involves BIOS and MBR, and I've been using that in the past successfully. The FreeBSD "system" will be accessed first, the boot manager will select how to continue, and it can be set to a default (or "last choice") and configured with a timeout. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:07:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5A3150B for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E8631DF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799DC3CDC0; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04I7Gk2002997; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104190716.35660e63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:07:20 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:46 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > Curiously, with many GNU/Linux flavours, for example, Fedora 21; it get > out the image of desktop by default settings to HDMI of TV. Interesting. What port on the laptop are you using? Is there a "chain of adapters" involved? What GPU driver does X use on the Linux system? > > > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > > > > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 > > > > The significant parts are: > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card1" > > Driver "vesa" > > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > > EndSection > > > > Maybe you cannot use VESA together with the limited range > > of valid HDMI resolutions... > > > > It is default FreeBSD Xorg configuration generator. So your GPU wasn't properly detected. Are you sure it is supported? > The problem is: I have an Intel video card, not NVIDIA ... In that case, the correct driver has to be installed and loaded, but the sections could look almost the same, except that the Intel GPU driver (and maybe specific options) is set. > My question is, if with GNU/Linux it show by default configuration, > isn't possible in FreeBSD ? Maybe that Linux uses a different approach to detect the GPU and load the driver for X. You can always use "pciconf -lv | less" to check for the correct identification of the GPU, and then add the correct package (for example xf86-video-intel). Then restart X and it will probably load the correct driver. Probably you can go without xorg.conf at all when the driver is available. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 22:57:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B5FEE4C for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE28F64F33 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id byxY1p00M07iGuj01yxZdS; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:57:34 +0100 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D2E2312420; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:57:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:57:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20150104225732.GA5732@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Xavier Freebsd Questio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 22:57:45 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:26:58AM -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebs= d-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, but in FreeBSD, I can't=20 > get the image in the VGA external output port. >=20 > I have tried or tested with the same laptop with a GNU/Linux, in this=20 > case a Fedora 21, that by default shows the image through the VGA=20 > external output connector. Try connecting an external monitor, then run the xrandr(1) command and capt= ure the output:: xrandr >screens.txt Then post the content of screens.txt here. This output should show you which connectors the computer sees, and which output formats there are. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJUqcVcAAoJEED21dyjijPgWVoQAI7aAhPZ3rxsVcnGZEtYFvjw vojCZ5sbsS9umgmQV0PaFsgSkSHGuRBqOvwUfwpjX0pNNEOX7PTAWbAIZl9X8pxz mjS6WiIoIaStmgMlozOovS2Lfx6FNZTFYyh+eYPQDHfUXWw1Z6XMcZs0EwmijOwy F8WG+3I6ury5qkPDeUscr37DeT8sIgIq/8DiNHO04C2Mrr1c1Q9+GXgf+a9/eb/U whb+EseDBS72NB0JZv/FYGLI8ib7X2XFf3hr+PAg7ba3Tg53PhHaQBYws89JhZ4d lDYSvxIcNm5PM4daUcZlVmatkrd53SWjhW8TK633oZHZ4DVHCMZYg58riGttFqWH i8KdDmbC6KZzQz4xp0UVmtEQz667R+YBlYd3qK9NIu3c8IWXaHyHK+XSkx+lmJ4j zd7ZlcmLGFxljywoPexfy8UVH5hmvvBSw3khwC3WEu9Ml0LvL8S0CMszdc2yAmjS p3a5DN0nmRRfPyU7tiUzvnSTELOLIgfDyAR7HHiRdE/Mur3wT4v+3pFWKfksw2aG RdxjtpfdDcSTDyCdjiXkKlc0jq+7/WBugj1GVO6egZxJVQCrddkxR6Dlbo3n+XbG Obnd9sCJa46YS3ns7i3HTIKfLYL4tzDx/7uG4UtxR5XjQstg3rd8gVo7nDQOVXNX 8OIEDipoR5oiHSFU3Bk7 =OG0t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 00:34:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EA0349F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27E972FAC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.198] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4309727489 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:25:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:25:10 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: ZFS replacing drive issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:34:53 -0000 I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace '. This normally just works, and I have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in a good state. I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 00:39:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D81D55A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA8AF2FFC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edws.my.domain ([107.146.213.175]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWgND-1YJ9382rmN-00XuoV; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:39:18 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:37:17 -0800 From: Ed To: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Re: Blu ray Message-Id: <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> In-Reply-To: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-unknown-openbsd5.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FVDhpewUzjaQ9pzkc8v3X82nDN8Avl7lAOzdlSwtan+9Es2NmBJ jJmH4XI+nT6YcrOrjwvNfJ44ikCjd1C4YrwLB6hY9aodKqd4uf0Wc9aHLL8JzQ5EIl4KL2e Qfi8ZxWoNZr+D0xQB7dS3/O8HiDOk+Qz5W3fvLIpp391UFcZk4XiglgzHWD2fu7jnMwycR3 K8tcMhokb/fz/1SVbENUg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:39:28 -0000 On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I know the question has come up several times, but things change... > > Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? > > Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO > and writing it? > What would be the maximum file size? > > Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? > > Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? growisofs manpage mentions supporting bluray recording, i guess it would do. may want to search in the email archives. while back i was also looking into bluray support and found an interesting thread in the mailing lists: "blu ray recorders" https://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2012/freebsd-questions/20120422.freebsd-questions.html hope this was of some help:-) -- Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:01:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 885C48BD for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA9F32DE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t0511Aim005696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:01:10 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9E3CC.1010009@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:07:24 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ZFS replacing drive issues References: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:01:12 -0000 On 01/04/15 18:25, Da Rock wrote: > I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm > having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. > > The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace > '. This normally just works, and I > have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. > > After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and > that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. > > No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in > a good state. > > I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. > > Cheers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Someone posted a similar problem a few weeks ago; rebooting fixed it for them (as opposed to trying to get zfs to fix itself w/ management commands), might try that if feasible .... $0.02, no more,l no less .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:21:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEF12D28 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82F48644D7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051LFoY036460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051LF7c036457; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:21:21 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and exactly which Intel graphics does it have? > Attached a Xorg log of the GNU/Linux to check what uses the GNU/Linux, to get > it, I do not know if that requires any specific part of the same GNU/Linux > outside of Xorg. > > http://pastebin.com/85Xym8Vs That appears to be a mixed log of events, and I did not see anything useful identifying the type of Intel graphics needed. > Taking it into consideration, Xorg, as well as for GNU/Linux as to FreeBSD. > For all I know, is the same that the GNU/Linux shows the image from the > external VGA, theoretically the setting could be reproduce in FreeBSD. > > Do you have any idea about this topic? Any comments? If you have supported Intel graphics (that is, not Haswell), xrandr can probably switch the video output. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:23:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68703DC1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 174C56469F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051NgXF037093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051Ng9a037090; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:23:47 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 > > Any idea ? Yes, delete or rename that file and let X start without it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:29:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F0AFE82 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97A6646FD for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t051ThFD017026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:29:43 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:35:57 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: package availability question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:29:45 -0000 .... I type the following as root & get the output below: [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i docker docker-1.5_8 [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % Is this the same package documented here: https://www.docker.com/ Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have a happy new year. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:32:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48602F21 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E768C64817 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051Wkrp039388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051Wkxu039385; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:46 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD multiboot / was: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI In-Reply-To: <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> Message-ID: References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:32:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:32:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Christian Baer wrote: > This time, I installed Windows first and FreeBSD after that. I did not find > any option during the installation of the latter to install/setup a boot > loader that allows me to choose the OS I wish to use. The result is that the > Computer now only boots FreeBSD - which is fine with me until I want to do > some gaming. :-) Is the disk partitioned as MBR or GPT? Actually, I don't know if Windows 7 can do GPT without UEFI. If it is MBR, FreeBSD's boot0cfg can be used to install the boot0 loader. If it is GPT, I have managed to use Grub to multiboot, but not with Windows: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/gpt-multiboot.49055/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:44:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE76F2C1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72F464A2F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2015 18:44:07 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=R_4_8qS_AAAA:8 a=n6MYwUk4AAAA:8 a=q56oFxeYAAAA:8 a=xb8E-3M0AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=F7_6Eb0QWAfHd1VSE5kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=k3S3GY7AwsAA:10 a=47IuoB945Agu1AnIdfIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2015 18:44:06 -0700 Subject: Re: package availability question .... References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> From: Dale Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Message-Id: <11D75E94-C11B-4353-A674-23F239B04940@shaw.ca> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:44:07 -0700 (MST) To: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad2C5/1202.440) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:44:14 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:29 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrot= e: >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... I type the following as root & get the output below: >=20 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i doc= ker > docker-1.5_8 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % >=20 > Is this the same package documented here: >=20 > https://www.docker.com/ >=20 > Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it o= ut ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have = a happy new year. Unfortunately no it appears. From freshports.org http://www.freshports.org/= x11/docker/: "Docker is a docking application (WindowMaker dock app) which acts as a sys= tem tray for KDE3 and GNOME2. It can be used to replace the panel in either= environment, allowing you to have a system tray without running the KDE/GN= OME panel. WWW: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/docker/" My understanding is that Docker is not compatible with FreeBSD due to kerne= l requirements, and that jails reportedly serve a similar, if incompatible,= purpose, but I could be completely wrong. Dale >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:45:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9172488 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63FB564A4E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id hz20so17083192lab.6 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=scswa8NGJc7yRNOyB6HTugV1qIPR9zHrGyFKPEzWzbE=; b=D6Bd8AOCEQlX3+c4sGVcakwwvzri9kzdDPjMFjPLW1VIPWXBSqm8QzYFYCDJOClCs+ lh0fDHoN+BilSUFpjwuhuKAZ71unqS06wiu1nJhAgC8/pBpcafRIZdpZJT1Hks42+Vb4 t+yWEQ4aNRUVXEvD+mipI28TRxsQWiwg53L+mOlhjyjJ1sSFqAZNu5gwGU39mZ08MUMk NwiQM3TV7EEyWbW4Hw4Nw3Z3KdNcIH7/0vDUdgaA5O7/4Th2H4rLGdDNz73M/ufZNnqb sjKaJG2YlYPgL8Tfox2vL1OYrvIkyz6hYZtQRqvPzLNUKr8GJn4XRnnB2Nd28qjKlvzX 7B5A== X-Received: by 10.152.8.225 with SMTP id u1mr89576207laa.21.1420422302484; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lazlar.no-ip.biz (213-64-218-92-no126.business.telia.com. [213.64.218.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o3sm10989763laf.42.2015.01.04.17.45.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A9EC9D.9070500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:45:01 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blu ray References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:45:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-01-04 18:40, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I know the question has come up several times, but things > change... > > Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? > > Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB > ISO and writing it? What would be the maximum file size? > > Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? > > Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? > > bye & Thanks av. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have an internal SATA BluRay recorder. Specifically cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's a Liteon (the name isn't printed on the externally visible part of the drive). I've had it for several years (three I think), and it's worked flawlessly since day one, with both sysutils/cdrtools-devel and sysutils/dvd+rw-tools. To my knowledge the maximum file size of mkisofs is 4GB, and since growisofs uses mkisofs for the fs creation, that limit applies to it as well. The limit is for the files contained in the ISO fs. The ISO file itself can be bigger. If you need bigger files, there is also sysutils/udfclient. I can't tell you how good/bad it is though, because I've never used it. Regards, Rolf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUqeyEAAoJEPJMW41Co4JgXLcP/jmgW1aHEdqd06dFpb5YIsMJ CqWI2IL0uX4jIm2/9Tif7dKUxwTzG7L5r8TvOsDx0jD2uc+K6d/ly4itWLr4FNxS 76MbICIzrPcVOm+LixKmTYQaQyOg4UBiUINjqjcdBNqCU+CWVMTz0jHgD2+WWOmG rb75jFJlB9kA7cb2YKzcfcZWwZzR3kaOF/j54y0lJj0FyCMLQbL0dpMRcIgU2t1R BzOcZAAw7UJQjbSDaQjHagDFOXeezZGIRyYDAeWah9xyl3Xx5e24hj118Zz34/aq 7gyR3jrqKJ4yGZxjtsCmT1kbEHm+Jg4AYSlPA4p5uClcsr+SYzMawXsrT+8wJKEm bVpgDMpT65QJU3gWujbIp/Q3MdfTC4gRpUFSVUoibx5s8Gt7ap01EVo6+e+8Vp8J WF3ATS+lfXbx6JAQ0cLrXlG5FrF2CDF4YHSzz2mbBjuNktK2KVrR0V8vPvH3TsV/ 7MyyETfPfjWLA/RR7UIglzSkfeZzJnAPg7m3GcLIt3iuse3CBPNYrJ7/caUwE5Sr a7uTrIJ7gn3pzOXjRTjXsFD7GLDa2c98Z7b7ko+K2hToq88LSBHRz25y9zW1PXgR iB4ViETqWsABVDIKEoHm5CQYuYd/KT+cQQfZ0xF4ob28Kw/QTApPGHZfOLJMxo8A CTpymslMwaB8+5nzkAPH =HKZ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:54:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D909E5D7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B27764C08 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id u20so46065514oif.7 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kzZ1qhpQljM+bOPrhjf46cVC0WQfDLnXP1sNa2FuNHs=; b=Doxw5uCzE3wZ35GgxxxoH/C/QgOHhFthvL/aZBfi6dkmyo0ynkLreIpu7qCSTeh58y xqHgIqXs+QycQ9UhLMg/QhdJ8F1tyIiRtA0DXe9j3WrqE4bf1F/u9Atf6Vm1VY/+mIMl BqoeE92Wqq8iUaKhjmpsbU4OwZKqePWY5DOh/Axj4mNgaBe7td72BqF3hGP4hiPxOXEL NyIMbYov6gKjFTJCWyO9fHuEA5mlZsfbvxG6UJKXI8DyNKYOZpKOz8cqCeBe41snqblo X9sY1SOCgMeZr87tNqGbmosqxsOYGMMxnfxgFH4Gi92QgQ28dqAw/N1AgzhINY/cbqC+ Reyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.183.24.162 with SMTP id ij2mr11351047obd.18.1420422898889; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: package availability question .... From: jungle Boogie To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:55:00 -0000 Hi William, On Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > > > > .... I type the following as root & get the output below: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i docker > docker-1.5_8 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % > > Is this the same package documented here: > > https://www.docker.com/ > > Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have a happy new year. > > Look it up on freshports.org What makes docker better than jails? > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:15:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8681D62 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C1664F3D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t052Fo3X002110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 20:15:51 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9F54C.5040700@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 20:22:04 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: package availability question .... References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:15:52 -0000 On 01/04/15 19:54, jungle Boogie wrote: > Hi William, > On Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: >> >> >> .... I type the following as root & get the output below: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i > docker >> docker-1.5_8 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % >> >> Is this the same package documented here: >> >> https://www.docker.com/ >> >> Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it > out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have > a happy new year. >> > Look it up on freshports.org > > What makes docker better than jails? > >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war >> ever devised by man." >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Firstly, I know *nothing* about jails, & only what I have read about docker online @ the above link. With that, docker seems to be more portable, i.e. I can develop packages under docker on my box & run them under/on docker on other boxen relatively willy-nilly, so implyeth the above website. I do have some KVM VM's running under FC14 (I know, way out of date), & am able to run executables compiled therein under other similar (Linux, just different versions) boxen on my LAN, *relatively* reliably. Docker seems to promise more flexibility on that front .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:23:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46032EF2 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74552EE7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp14-2-13-162.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.13.162]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2015 12:47:58 +1030 Message-ID: <54A9F453.1020303@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:55 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed , Andrea Venturoli Subject: Re: Blu ray References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> In-Reply-To: <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:23:08 -0000 On 05/01/2015 11:07, Ed wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 > Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I know the question has come up several times, but things change... >> >> Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? >> >> Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO >> and writing it? >> What would be the maximum file size? >> >> Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? >> >> Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? > > growisofs manpage mentions supporting bluray recording, i guess it would do. > > may want to search in the email archives. > > while back i was also looking into bluray support and found an interesting thread in the > mailing lists: "blu ray recorders" > https://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2012/freebsd-questions/20120422.freebsd-questions.html > > hope this was of some help:-) > As I mentioned in those emails I have an LG BH12LS38. Running 9.0 - 9.2 I burnt DVD's and CD's without issue using k3b - which is a gui frontend to the cli tools. Max file size is dependant on the filesystem not the disk, I think UDF is normally used for Blu Ray so will support files over 2GB. After those emails I tried burning a BD-R and failed, I think it was buffer underrun. I have 8GB RAM and was using zfs on a single disc at the time so more RAM may help. The disc was recognised as BD-R all started fine just didn't complete. I would have been running 9.1 at the time - over a year ago. I have recently upgraded to 10.1 but haven't burnt any disks yet. BD-R prices are down to a couple of dollars a disk so may be time to try again. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:34:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6CD5FD1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B18811D4 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBD6C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9I3EGX6qJ8Fb for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.internal [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 306C2A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:33:46 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:34:03 -0000 Hi Arthur, On 01/01/15 19:19, Arthur Chance wrote: > This is being written on a machine with an Intel i7-4790K CPU (Devil's > Canyon, i.e. Haswell) and a Dell U2711 2560x1440 monitor. The X VESA > driver works fine for me at native resolution. OK, I'm not a gamer and I > don't do anything that needs fast 3D, but it works well enough that my > first thought after reading the original post was "Haswell graphics > aren't supported???" because I'd completely forgotten I was using the > VESA driver. Using a vt console rather than sc I have no problem > dropping out of X back into console mode either. I think this is the problem I'm facing - can you clarify and assist if possible? I have a Haswell i3 which runs X fine with vesa, but when I quit X, the machine crashes hard and requires holding the power button. Cheers, Greg. 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Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 03:27:45 -0000 On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:55 +1030 Shane Ambler wrote: > After those emails I tried burning a BD-R and failed, I think it was > buffer underrun. I have 8GB RAM and was using zfs on a single disc at > the time so more RAM may help. > > The disc was recognised as BD-R all started fine just didn't complete. > > I would have been running 9.1 at the time - over a year ago. > > I have recently upgraded to 10.1 but haven't burnt any disks yet. > > BD-R prices are down to a couple of dollars a disk so may be time to try > again. Thank You for the updated infomation. interesting... I wonder if used ufs instead of zfs would of made any difference? -- Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 07:20:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F88B87 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m13-117.163.com (m13-117.163.com [220.181.13.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CDB6401A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:20:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=163.com; s=s110527; h=Date:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID; bh=CgWiB 7G7r7nUoczCDu4MKA6XfOcvMNhpxsTHqvER8rI=; b=ExKq2OMRvH2F9mIflIWwj lw3oDIAVtbjexuGfV2gjHmFXljQvCbGd9fC75un2TN7Of2ynMVJhQbPk8we5X72v 4VGujmKKPGC7tqWa1LGr7cv+vHmEKbKD9SaO4VtbMs6J2Z8iwCdRETPOVn3h7aMH jPtEmok0jcEQKyFt5Nj7J8= Received: from t_mary_9$163.com ( [106.6.189.188] ) by ajax-webmail-wmsvr117 (Coremail) ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:20:20 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [106.6.189.188] Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:20:20 +0800 (CST) From: Mary To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Attn:Purchasing IP65 SAA Down Light Easter Industries 1/4/2015 11:20:18 PM X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version SP_ntes V3.5 build 20140915(28949.6690) Copyright (c) 2002-2015 www.mailtech.cn 163com X-CM-CTRLDATA: nRSLB2Zvb3Rlcl9odG09MjYwNTo4MQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <64b59124.80ca.14ab8f744d4.Coremail.t_mary_9@163.com> X-CM-TRANSID: dcGowEAp8EI1O6pUXQcfAA--.3040W X-CM-SenderInfo: pwbpt2t1bzqiywtou0bp/1tbiWQx4MlD+ZhsG9QAMsz X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U5529EdanIXcx71UUUUU7vcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:20:33 -0000 RGVhciBNYW5hZ2VyLAoKV2UgYXJlIHByb2Zlc3Npb25hbCBtYW51ZmFjdHVyZXIgb2YgbGVkIGxp Z2h0aW5nIGZpeHR1cmVzLgoKV2hhdCB3ZSBvZmZlcjoKCjEuCgo3LTUwVyBMRUQgRG93biBMaWdo dAoKQ0UsIFJPSFMsIFNBQSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZQoKMC0xMFYgb3IgdHJpYWMgRGltbWFibGUKCklQ NjUgV2F0ZXIgUHJvb2YKCjIuCgo2MC01MDBXIExFRCBIaWdoIEJheSBMaWdodAoKVUwsIENVTCAs Q0UsIFJvaHMgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUKCkhpZ2ggbHVtaW5hbmNlIDEwMGxtL3cKCkxpZ2h0aW5nIHdl aWdodCAxNjBXPTIuOUtHCgpTaG91bGQgeW91IGhhdmUgYW55IGludGVyZXN0LCBwbGVhc2UgY29u dGFjdCB1cyBmb3IgcG9zc2libGUgZGVhbCwgdGhhbmtzICEKCkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywKCk1hcnkK Ckd1YW5nemhvdSBFYXN0ZXIgSW5kdXN0cmllcyBDby4sIEx0ZC4KCkFkZDogTm8uMSBDaGFuZ2Fu IFJvYWQsIEx1b2dhbmcgRGlzdHJpY3QgLCBHdWFuZ3pob3UgQ2hpbmEKCkVtYWlsOmluZm9AZWFz dGVyaW5kdXN0cmllcy5jb20KCldlYnNpdGU6d3d3LmVhc3RlcmluZHVzdHJpZXMuY29tCgpTa3lw ZTplYXN0ZXJpbmR1c3RyaWVzCgpUZWw6IDg2LTIwLTM4OTk3ODkxCgoyMDE1LzEvNCAyMzoyMDox OSA4NDAxOS4wNiAgICAg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:35:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 345819E7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1BD339A7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t058ZbFV064666; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:38 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:35:37 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> In-Reply-To: <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:35:52 -0000 On 05/01/2015 02:33, Gregory Orange wrote: > Hi Arthur, > > On 01/01/15 19:19, Arthur Chance wrote: >> This is being written on a machine with an Intel i7-4790K CPU (Devil's >> Canyon, i.e. Haswell) and a Dell U2711 2560x1440 monitor. The X VESA >> driver works fine for me at native resolution. OK, I'm not a gamer and I >> don't do anything that needs fast 3D, but it works well enough that my >> first thought after reading the original post was "Haswell graphics >> aren't supported???" because I'd completely forgotten I was using the >> VESA driver. Using a vt console rather than sc I have no problem >> dropping out of X back into console mode either. > > I think this is the problem I'm facing - can you clarify and assist if > possible? I have a Haswell i3 which runs X fine with vesa, but when I > quit X, the machine crashes hard and requires holding the power button. The problem with sc and the new X system is that on return from X to console mode the sc driver can't regain control of the screen to display anything. It doesn't crash, but you get a black screen so you might think it's not responding. In fact, if you (carefully) type "shutdown -r now" (or any other command) it will respond. If that's what's happening, switching to the vt driver will help. If you're genuinely getting a crash though it's not an sc versus vt problem. To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in /boot/loader.conf kern.vty=vt i915kms_load="YES" Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:44:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 517CABC7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 085513BCA for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.155.194] (helo=unixarea.DDR.dd) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Y83Ge-00005h-Ln; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:44:05 +0100 Received: from unixarea.DDR.dd (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t058i1qX002851; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3/Submit) id t058i0E3002850; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: unixarea.DDR.dd: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:00 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? Message-ID: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Arthur Chance , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.155.194 Cc: Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:44:17 -0000 El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance escribió: > To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in > /boot/loader.conf > > kern.vty=vt > i915kms_load="YES" > > Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does not boot with this. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 1989-2014: The Wall was torn down so that we go to war together again. El Muro ha sido derribado para que nos unimos en ir a la guerra otra vez. Diese Grenze wurde aufgehoben damit wir gemeinsam wieder in den Krieg ziehen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:51:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9924ADE8 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33C603C2F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t058p4C4064683; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:04 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:51:04 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> In-Reply-To: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:51:09 -0000 On 05/01/2015 08:44, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance escribió: > >> To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in >> /boot/loader.conf >> >> kern.vty=vt >> i915kms_load="YES" >> >> Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. > > Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to > boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does > not boot with this. Any idea what hardware triggers this? I've got an i7-4790K CPU on an Asus Z97-A mobo and that works OK for the record. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 10:18:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D570B84E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1501CE0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:18:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwFADRkqlRyxkj4/2dsb2JhbABcgkNDIjCDDsNfAYcCFgEBAQEBfYQTCCAFWQUGEAJQPwEEHoggmVyjK5AUghcMQIEwBYw+gVdNjkCLNiKBUQGCMCqCdAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,698,1413216000"; d="scan'208,217";a="582191728" Received: from unknown (HELO ianfPC) ([114.198.72.248]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2015 18:18:05 +0800 From: "Ian Fitzgerald" To: Subject: FBSD 10.1 installation attempt on Proliant 150ML G6 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 21:17:51 +1100 Message-ID: <001401d028d0$dca39100$95eab300$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdAo0NxqdVeCSZJLR7a8K+ebzVlUBw== Content-Language: en-au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:18:13 -0000 Hello recipients I have performed countless installs over many years and most have been easy, or my errors are soon discovered. I acquired this solid piece of hardware, and, despite noticing some problems encountered by other FBSD users with this marque, I took up the challenge, using FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64). At first I configured the native gigabit nic (bge), with and without PXE enabled, then installed an Intel gigabit CT (em) card and tried configuring that, with and without bge enabled. Hardware probe finds both nics, and reports whichever is configured to be active. DHCP times out for either, manual configuration (bsdinstall) appears to work, but when the parameters are to be displayed from ?unbound, the entries are blank, requiring re-entry of the values including gateway. Ifconfig reports active configured nic, with the manually entered ip address. Of course ping reports host down for any other hosts on the private network. I am unsure whether this is an old HP problem, whether the board is defective, or whether something malign has been introduced in 10.1. I am loathe to invest in a support contract, especially when the docs for the latest cumulative ROM upgrade contain no mention of nic fixes. Any suggestions? Ian Fitzgerald. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 12:47:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD46743 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D881F66FF3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1420462059535718.3802120816207; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 04:47:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:47:39 -0800 From: fred To: Message-ID: <14aba22efdd.e082095c6803.5720013214474732092@trinitech.co.uk> References: Subject: Re:freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 553, Issue 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:50 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:02:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0AE2AAF for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ECCE647CF for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 837D03CE81; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t05E2Koc002118; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150105150220.cdc5e793.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F66AE0047A1D-15D0-B871@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104190716.35660e63.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F66AE0047A1D-15D0-B871@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:02:35 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:22:12 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:07:16PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > What GPU driver does X use on the Linux system? > > > > See Xorg log of GNU/Linux: http://pastebin.com/85Xym8Vs This seems to be /var/log/messages, not /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Within the line noise, I think I found something: (II) LoadModule: "vesa" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so So this also uses VESA? But the device detection seem to work: (II) modesetting(0): EDID for output LVDS-0 (II) modesetting(0): Manufacturer: IVO Model: 3f4 Serial#: 0 It lists several supported modes, but they somehow don't really look like what one would associate with a modern flat panel TV set... Note this: (II) modesetting(0): Output VGA-0 connected (II) modesetting(0): Output LVDS-0 connected (II) modesetting(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected (II) modesetting(0): Output DisplayPort-0 disconnected One probably is the internal display, the other one is the TV. Both are claimed to be initialized at 800x600, which sounds strange... But DRI and GLX seem to be supported. Funny... (II) modesetting(0): EDID vendor "IVO", prod id 1012 (II) modesetting(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) modesetting(0): Modeline "1024x600"x0.0 [...] (II) modesetting(0): Allocate new frame buffer 1024x768 stride It's quite hard to see the "normal run" of X.org messages in this file, it seems to represent more than one session. Does this file mean that Linux is successful by using the VESA driver for that card and TV combination? > > So your GPU wasn't properly detected. Are you sure it > > is supported? > > > > In FreeBSD I don't know. I ask for it here. It's basically about the availability of a X.org driver. Maybe a kernel module is also involved. > http://pastebin.com/ZBqSx4Sn That is the relevant entry: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x09331025 chip=0x0f318086 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'ValleyView Gen7' class = display subclass = VGA Doesn't say much... I'm not sure which of the available Intel driver supports a "ValleyView Gen7". Supported cards (or chipsets) are usually listed in the manpage after you've installed the driver ... > http://pastebin.com/uC4ZqNyh ... which you have: root@acer-jan:~ # pkg info | grep xf86-video-intel xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_6 Driver for Intel integrated graphics chipsets By the way: There's no need to paste two lines of text to pastebin. Not everyone likes to utilize a web browser when reading or answering e-mails, especially because this often is a privacy concern. > The load driver: http://pastebin.com/aKuxRbkg Relevant lines: [ 73.161] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [ 73.167] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [ 73.183] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 73.183] compiled for 1.14.7, module version = 2.21.15 [ 73.183] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 73.183] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1 [...] [ 73.186] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics, HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500, HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600, HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100, HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200 I don't see your particular card listed here, except of course "ValleyView Gen7" is one of them. Interestingly, VESA is _also_ loaded. Why is that? For comparison, I have a nVidia card, and the nVidia driver is loded. It's the only driver which is loaded. It it possible that there are two distinct graphic subparts in that laptop? > More ideas ? Thanks. What's the output of the "xrandr" command (without any options)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:10:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE5C8D42 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C95864897 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E138F3CD03; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t05EALbp002171; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150105151020.89aab170.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:10:24 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:10:43 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 I'd like to repeat the significant sections: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x09331025 chip=0x0f318086 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'ValleyView Gen7' class = display subclass = VGA Bridges, network and other stuff omitted. :-) > My 'xrandr' output: http://pastebin.com/qc07q53r Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768 default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1366x768 0.00 1368x768 0.00* > What do you think? This looks like how a flat panel TV should be addressed correctly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:18:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3450CF09 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F204364A62 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ft15so28104884pdb.22 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Wp9EUvSBli0x2jWqCV1BBoRZvqSXj5aQRqSkz7ie6Rg=; b=zMVZDrMblOUOSrr2qjti+Hl9EdZ33qJ175WnBDoaje3XHt9qrmE3lJWcLdWa3e/yyY sy74GiFPIp8gLawpoYGp2AiHdx54Q4OWs4bUa5rQye5DuR74bJjY+JuDcmagGrIXXs4q XzNU910uZEeZIB634yZYFPVyFwgrijsYX5qHuX8nwvzAV8QelfSp85ZcWXgGrD8g0Y8B Ic3BH7PPzZuTUTQwlw4f0++A8YFg9eDojUTiP2NkYHoUMdnxRtEL3qTZgsJoBhq07cNB vylSz9+1tZVs0vKcpxVLTDFeWMV3Mwz1rtWQPHvNNR3CgIZYTaEyit0fN7ZXPGMrg5y2 3JpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.90.209 with SMTP id by17mr148302636pdb.162.1420467495326; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.101.133 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:18:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? From: Adam Vande More To: Matthias Apitz , Arthur Chance , Gregory Orange , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:18:16 -0000 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chanc= e > escribi=C3=B3: > > > To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in > > /boot/loader.conf > > > > kern.vty=3Dvt > > i915kms_load=3D"YES" > > > > Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. > > Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load=3D"YES") and prepared to > boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does > not boot with this. > > matthias > If there are problems booting with it, then simply using the loader prompt to not load the module is generally an easier solution. --=20 Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:07:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5E55E1C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E96A67063 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t05F7UBY038710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t05F7Tos038707; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? In-Reply-To: <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Matthias Apitz , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:07:40 -0000 On Mon, 5 Jan 2015, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 05/01/2015 08:44, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance >> escribió: >> >>> To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in >>> /boot/loader.conf >>> >>> kern.vty=vt >>> i915kms_load="YES" >>> >>> Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. >> >> Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to >> boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does >> not boot with this. > > Any idea what hardware triggers this? I've got an i7-4790K CPU on an Asus > Z97-A mobo and that works OK for the record. Manually loading the module is not necessary, and sometimes causes problems. There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:23:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD74F56C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x229.google.com (mail-yh0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77707672A3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a41so10665636yho.28 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FHTWYY8Uz4tl1/Zt35+slJRBaCiWxFAA40ivEgNK0eU=; b=sOyoQLmIer9V9hWB5fY7yPFa9v5O5DrrpA1fUouLiz+9XEvrZBMttbwaIYFcGpTepB zSpHLxC461rrubSrbbPyN+V99dE8/F3bzanDNH+XTJOkOYl421x8RAfPcgxzSxKkJzmy 3IdGFDuRovn4QJ/yFGqzZ2UCItudJ6Aau0MTiIUQ6VP98rfRKC0uXCl02IO+F0UXn292 7hxgFRgAh574AUzGSI2MEA3k4s7sE+RD8P+JCrXEmfEEODPVAaAIghhxJVHLUho97Ce9 6aHVwmmzRAUXwDYVWcvzJvR/FaVdTEw/L8TJsi3BpirAT+YP76pVj9Kr8iEaRIyrHeem NzrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.231.49 with SMTP id k47mr17417212yhq.86.1420471411542; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.188.144 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> References: <54A7C54E.3000708@eskk.nu> <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Follow up question, unbound drill command From: krad To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:23:32 -0000 why are you even bothering with external tools? # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T add www.yahoo.com 3/3 addresses added. # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T show 46.228.47.114 46.228.47.115 192.168.210.84 2a00:1288:110:2::4001 On 3 January 2015 at 12:52, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:32:46AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > > I have two scripts that makes a table that I use in PF to allow access > > from the outside to my local network. > > > > The command I use can look like the line below. > > > > for HOST in $HOSTS; do pfctl -t goodguys -T add `dig +short $HOST $NS`; > done > > > > > > Replacing dig with drill in the command does not work. > > > > > > Making a symlink in /usr/bin > > > > ln -s drill dig > > > > solves the problem. > > > > > > Any suggestions on what I need to do in the script in order to make > > drill work? > > Accoding to the man pages host and drill have no short option! > Why are you installing dns/bind-tools? > > -- > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:48:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1AFAAA for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE17675DE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t05FmCX2057295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t05FmC1e057291; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:48:16 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, >> >> Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and > exactly >> which Intel graphics does it have? >> > > My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 (The quoting makes it difficult to reply to your messages. Might want to see if that can be fixed.) As Polytropon pointed out, it is a "Valley View Gen7" GPU, apparently a successor to Bay Trail. Whether the FreeBSD version of the X intel driver supports that yet, I don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:50:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C376157 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net (smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net [81.236.55.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C484567604 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435B849018E565C; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:48:48 +0100 Message-ID: <54AAB260.3030703@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:48:48 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad , "Herbert J. Skuhra" Subject: Re: Follow up question, unbound drill command References: <54A7C54E.3000708@eskk.nu> <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:50:17 -0000 krad skrev 2015-01-05 16:23: > why are you even bothering with external tools? > > # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T add www.yahoo.com > 3/3 addresses added. > > > # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T show > 46.228.47.114 > 46.228.47.115 > 192.168.210.84 > 2a00:1288:110:2::4001 > > > > On 3 January 2015 at 12:52, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > To be honest I don't know. At the time the scripts was created I got help on this list and the commands was suggested here. I'll try your suggestion. Thank you :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:06:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEFE7861 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.hemio.de (mail.hemio.de [176.9.40.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91D7D2743 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bulldozer.local (p4FC24BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.194.75.196]) by mail.hemio.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD1E01BC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:00:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:00:18 +0100 From: Roman Naumann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: GDB SIGSEGV with 32 binaries on 10.1-amd64 Message-ID: <20150105160018.GA30902@bulldozer.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:06:07 -0000 Hi, I noticed the GNU Debugger (GDB) seems to be unable to debug 32 bit binaries on the FreeBSD amd64 platform. A simple example gives a SIGSEGV when running the binaries in GDB, as shown below. GDB 7.8 shows a warning. GDB 6.1 just reports the signal. There exists a /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1, but I cannot figure out how to make gdb use it. Maybe it will not fix the issue even if gdb uses this library. Ideas and hints much appreciated. Best regards, Roman -- checked so far: -> /usr/lib32 exists -> recompile gdb7 from ports instead of using pkg -- system: FreeBSD bulldozer.local 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #3 r275043M: Tue Nov 25 16:52:35 CET 2014 namor@bulldozer.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 -- how to reproduce: [namor@bulldozer ~]$ cat test2.c int main() { return 0; } [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gcc -m32 -o test2 test2.c [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gdb test2 [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gdb78 test2 GNU gdb (GDB) 7.8 [GDB v7.8 for FreeBSD] (...) (gdb) run Starting program: /grave/home/namor/test2 warning: `/libexec/ld-elf.so.1': Shared library architecture i386:x86-64 is not compatible with target architecture i386. warning: `/libexec/ld-elf.so.1': Shared library architecture i386:x86-64 is not compatible with target architecture i386. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x000004e3 in ?? () From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:09:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4E592D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44F5279C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.159]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9D41720D3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter28-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UxGnuKAp-Zhw for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:27 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.143.243 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.143.243.mtnl.net.in [120.60.143.243]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 611DD172095 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 21:38:24 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:09:01 -0000 i had asked this question before and was advised to install the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development under freebsd. finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile the following simple objective-c program. #import int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) { @autoreleasepool { NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); } return 0; } the compiler options used were as below; clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 the compiler threw up the following error; main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found #import ^ 1 error generated. what can i do to get the above resolved? thanks, ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:58:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D79827A0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22d.google.com (mail-pd0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3ED42FF1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ft15so28520978pdb.32 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:subject:to:content-type:mime-version:organization :date; bh=In5uNBQnaaOV9zL+q1z17/7azrhm4w9hW90sK5dSGKQ=; b=p36CBVMbr8HBLbQk0g6jJpVxOfsMiJwDIx4neaTdajcOBTmpr4GQ7+aLZ9Lxa+aH5S 4cHVh7EOUJv7CSeQ87rPEocbIQRA9qyz7A7OR5MrHBu3naCnYrbYYQrMouJFnDW9DmyO g3GbuC70kQ1z8u7F+k7UAIHEuE3ViaKJ013aiISJZyIcrp8psY9uKE7hBB2shfkIKtPK oJXQBDpjuVxOA3cNfPZG0BhRB0KjLhs5A1UAqGObbIFpLoCjs1MMuy5DZzS48Ob5cSuZ PlT+g2dXbyxMkYm0gxCtM5LOi0yftDC0MjUycs4/BmahNB9RnGETu4wV2hXaHT6QtwKe 4r4Q== X-Received: by 10.68.213.132 with SMTP id ns4mr128634053pbc.148.1420477081177; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from static-238.105.96.14-tataidc.co.in ([14.96.18.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oc16sm54720960pdb.41.2015.01.05.08.57.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:57:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54aac295.5082460a.2f45.47d2@mx.google.com> From: "Ron" Subject: Business funding quote To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Ron Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 22:27:55 +0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:58:01 -0000 =EF=BB=BFHello =20 We are financial services provider focused on helping to solve the cas= h flow needs of our small business customers. 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Best regards, Michelle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 17:02:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AA7A953 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phsmgmx14-outx.partners.org (phsmgmx14-outx.partners.org [155.52.251.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.partners.org", Issuer "InCommon Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3718303D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:02:56 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEACDDqlSsG6iw/2dsb2JhbABchDTNLwEBAQEBAXyEDgQBOkQNAT4vEycEiDe5UINGAQEIAQEBAQEBHJMUgRMFjhUEiXyCZY1ehBCCNH4BAQE X-IPAS-Result: AqQEACDDqlSsG6iw/2dsb2JhbABchDTNLwEBAQEBAXyEDgQBOkQNAT4vEycEiDe5UINGAQEIAQEBAQEBHJMUgRMFjhUEiXyCZY1ehBCCNH4BAQE Received: from phsx10ht4.partners.org ([172.27.168.176]) by phsmgmx14-out.partners.org with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Jan 2015 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from PHSX10MB7.partners.org ([169.254.7.24]) by PHSX10HT4.partners.org ([172.27.168.176]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:01:26 -0500 From: "Morse, Richard E.,MGH" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: TeTeX retirement instructions? Thread-Topic: TeTeX retirement instructions? Thread-Index: AQHQKQk91uEDELYmp0CSRhS7MogFyQ== Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:01:25 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.27.173.109] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:02:58 -0000 Hi! According to the announcement back in 2013 regarding TeX: > teTeX-based ports and TeXLive are mutually exclusive. This means TeXLi= ve > ports cannot be installed when teTeX is already installed. You need > to remove all of the TeX-related packages based on teTeX to try TeXLive. > Migration procedure will be announced when conversion of the port > dependency is completed. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 17:59:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B674A22C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B7A3A71 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.140]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B716C172094 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter2-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U0+40ERfuC6C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:52 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.165.96 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.165.96.mtnl.net.in [120.60.165.96]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A08411720A3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:29:50 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:59:57 -0000 On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 09:38:24PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > i had asked this question before and was advised to install > the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development > under freebsd. > > finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile > the following simple objective-c program. > > #import > > int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) > { > @autoreleasepool { > NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); > } > return 0; > } > > the compiler options used were as below; > clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 > > the compiler threw up the following error; > main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found > #import > ^ > 1 error generated. > > what can i do to get the above resolved? i found the location of that file to be at; /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers/Foundation/Foundation.h should i be pointing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to that point too? don't know if that would work, gnustep and obj-c do have their own way of setting things up and getting things done. :) ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 18:23:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C203E29 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oms-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com 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(triband-mum-120.60.165.96.mtnl.net.in [120.60.165.96]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 129C1A80B9 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:41:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:11:34 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105184133.GA1430@aio.kathe.in> References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:41:41 -0000 On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:29:50PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 09:38:24PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > i had asked this question before and was advised to install > > the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development > > under freebsd. > > > > finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile > > the following simple objective-c program. > > > > #import > > > > int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) > > { > > @autoreleasepool { > > NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); > > } > > return 0; > > } > > > > the compiler options used were as below; > > clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 > > > > the compiler threw up the following error; > > main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found > > #import > > ^ > > 1 error generated. > > > > what can i do to get the above resolved? > > i found the location of that file to be at; > /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers/Foundation/Foundation.h > > should i be pointing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to that point too? > don't know if that would work, gnustep and obj-c do have their own > way of setting things up and getting things done. :) okay, got it to compile and work, find below contents of GNUmakefile; GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make TOOL_NAME = mainapp mainapp_OBJC_FILES = main.m include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/tool.make put it in the same directory as main.m and just issue gmake. remember to edit config.make found at; /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/ to reflect the actual location of clang tools, i.e. /usr/bin/ best regards, ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 18:41:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A50D59E8 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1352A2656 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id cJhl1p00B07iGuj01JhmjS; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 19:41:46 +0100 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 444C9123FD; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:41:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:41:45 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20150105184145.GB8322@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Xavier Freebsd Questio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8D1F6AC4A5C68C3-4F4-BD1D7@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8D1F6AC4A5C68C3-4F4-BD1D7@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:41:55 -0000 --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 10:10:27PM -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebs= d-questions wrote: > > Try connecting an external monitor, then run the xrandr(1) command > and capture > > the output:: > > > > xrandr >screens.txt > > > > Then post the content of screens.txt here. > > >=20 > http://pastebin.com/qc07q53r Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768 default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1366x768 0.00 =20 1368x768 0.00* (if it's only a couple of lines, please post information directly) > > This output should show you which connectors the computer sees, and > which > > output formats there are. > > >=20 > xrandr don't show any more. >=20 > What do you think? =46rom the looks of it, the graphics system only sees one output ("default"= ). That means that you're probably not going to get any output. Check the BIOS settings. It could be that the HDMI port is disabled. Does your machine have two grapics systems, e.g. a Radeon or Nvidia on a ca= rd and Intel graphics on the motherboard? In that case the HDMI port could bel= ong to the card you're not using... Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJUqtrpAAoJEED21dyjijPgPcQQAMVk+8Nhujn0GFEzdBunqH9Z 1KZaERBm/Xnz9jd0nPxLjZj8/+t7T6sOrQjSTDq3YUGQTDOzIeY6OBcNYdtn460l tSWnFy3OElFSJYW+Hg0GYc0Jg0HCoUS+OwP40tOU7X6rihUYLKc0e7buI7Fp1wOG NXdVIvm4Xr476vTMzk7Prt++vSk+VNOhIX8PtkfDJFYWxFy8L559g098oOTxHmTx mJ+8iTJxHLDC/8/FrLoG/h8yj7pgPeOER/XNos7DXeLq/PT0MoAfCtRaVPvKMGXE s0UnnfrZpoRqlF4Rm/qjdddI4phd1ip+UzHvNEEvOlUWXn/lXH4/yR2SASXY047n OgO+2vrjg1h3famooWGCDXtU8OqgMpspwMjvOCOd+FCsZ3ZpCKIWG2EvEGKtEvsk N6lOdll5aZYrajfLM5pjkWgGf7ETt4wYOKJS4vSUOCxEiND+/ip7g6SZCCkJpBoF D7U3yC8Be1uLPEgr2GBiseWpVoty3GXZVoezkK7W21rl0KRK1ZDoakPWW3e02d8z 0dAl8axnmhniAdMBcXVnXZ6f6hABtbXchGxRnhQAjfE0arXG5mLZ7PBXzVvwOG98 TMHUHCH9cZO8qkXhyW3DUbKSce82EHlmAbLBYq6bEGntsNPW8A7fjd17oHMA1Cn3 LjWb0yhbn3W8+9Dp7DFJ =48OQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 18:48:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8F2AD64 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A17C272E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter3-d.gandi.net (mfilter3-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.133]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8E91720B1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:48:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter3-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter3-d.gandi.net (mfilter3-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h9idaks3pnPC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:48:35 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.165.96 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.165.96.mtnl.net.in [120.60.165.96]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE4B817209B for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:48:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:18:33 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105184832.GA1590@aio.kathe.in> References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> <20150105184133.GA1430@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150105184133.GA1430@aio.kathe.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:48:38 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:11:34AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:29:50PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 09:38:24PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > i had asked this question before and was advised to install > > > the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development > > > under freebsd. > > > > > > finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile > > > the following simple objective-c program. > > > > > > #import > > > > > > int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) > > > { > > > @autoreleasepool { > > > NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); > > > } > > > return 0; > > > } > > > > > > the compiler options used were as below; > > > clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 > > > > > > the compiler threw up the following error; > > > main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found > > > #import > > > ^ > > > 1 error generated. > > > > > > what can i do to get the above resolved? > > > > i found the location of that file to be at; > > /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers/Foundation/Foundation.h > > > > should i be pointing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to that point too? > > don't know if that would work, gnustep and obj-c do have their own > > way of setting things up and getting things done. :) > > okay, got it to compile and work, find below contents of GNUmakefile; > GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles > include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make > TOOL_NAME = mainapp > mainapp_OBJC_FILES = main.m > include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/tool.make > > put it in the same directory as main.m and just issue gmake. > remember to edit config.make found at; > /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/ > to reflect the actual location of clang tools, i.e. /usr/bin/ also remember to set the environment variable GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_TOOLS to point to /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Tools ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 18:53:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E60C74A6 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 783E52915 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id cJsg1p00F07iGuj01JshKZ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 19:52:42 +0100 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD84C12420; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:52:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 19:52:40 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "Morse, Richard E.,MGH" Subject: Re: TeTeX retirement instructions? Message-ID: <20150105185240.GC8322@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8NvZYKFJsRX2Djef" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:53:57 -0000 --8NvZYKFJsRX2Djef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 05:01:25PM +0000, Morse, Richard E.,MGH wrote: > Hi! According to the announcement back in 2013 regarding TeX: >=20 > > teTeX-based ports and TeXLive are mutually exclusive. This means TeX= Live > > ports cannot be installed when teTeX is already installed. You need > > to remove all of the TeX-related packages based on teTeX to try TeXLi= ve. > > Migration procedure will be announced when conversion of the port > > dependency is completed. >=20 > The only "migration procedure" that I was later able to find was an annou= ncement on 2014-07-23: >=20 > > TeXLive is now the default teX provider. > > Please remove all TeX-related packages based on teTeX. >=20 > I'm not sure this actually counts as a "migration procedure". How did oth= er people make the transition? >=20 > I ask, because the recent upgrade of png will not proceed due to the outd= ated TeX ports (in particular, cm-super). Since I've been using TeXLive from way before it was in ports, I just kept the standard TeXLive distribution instead of using the one from ports. This= is kept completely separate (in /usr/local/texlive/...) from ports and doesn't interfere with it. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 20:01:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F77645C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F694321D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t05K12O6099331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 13:01:02 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <54AAED7F.3010704@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 13:01:03 -0700 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD 10 Package Mirror Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:01:10 -0000 I am trying to set up a private mirror of the FreeBSD 10 package repo. The handbook (https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/mirror-where.html) recommends rsync from the "best" official mirror site, but they do not appear to host the packages for 10 there anymore. pkg-ng figures out where to go using SRV lookups, but none of these hosts seem to support rsync. So, what is the best way to do this for FreeBSD 10? Thanks, -Markham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 20:04:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C5D953E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B40943330 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t05K4ScP099869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 5 Jan 2015 13:04:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <54AAEE4D.9030604@vip.sina.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 13:04:29 -0700 From: jzsf@vip.sina.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , jzsf@vip.sina.com Subject: Fwd: =?UTF-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaRnJlZUJTRCAxMCBQYWNrYWdlIE1pcg==?= =?UTF-8?B?cm9y?= References: <20150105200123.7743E48A286@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> In-Reply-To: <20150105200123.7743E48A286@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20150105200123.7743E48A286@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:04:31 -0000 Can someone in charge please remove this spammer from the list. Thanks. -M -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: 自动回复:FreeBSD 10 Package Mirror Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 04:01:23 +0800 (CST) From: jzsf@vip.sina.com To: XXXX 已收到您的来信! 谢谢! 荆州盛发 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 00:00:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DD30762 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22E4D6493E for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 00:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.198] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E4A9273B2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:00:42 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <54AB25A7.4040901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:00:39 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS replacing drive issues References: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <54A9E3CC.1010009@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54A9E3CC.1010009@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 00:00:47 -0000 On 05/01/2015 11:07, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 01/04/15 18:25, Da Rock wrote: >> I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm >> having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. >> >> The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace >> '. This normally just works, and I >> have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. >> >> After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and >> that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. >> >> No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in >> a good state. >> >> I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. >> >> Cheers >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Someone posted a similar problem a few weeks ago; rebooting fixed it > for them (as opposed to trying to get zfs to fix itself w/ management > commands), might try that if feasible .... $0.02, no more,l no less .... > Sorry, that didn't work unfortunately. I had to wait a bit until I could do it between it trying to resilver and workload. It came online at first, but then went back to removed when I checked again later. Any other diags I can do? I've already run smartctl on all the drives (5hrs+) and they've come back clean. There's not much to go on in the logs either. Do a small number of drives just naturally error when placed in a raid or something? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 02:10:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3306569F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 02:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68E0B64BA9 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 02:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5456 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:10:20 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w1ztEH64yQ4e for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:10:20 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.internal [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34BA54 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:10:20 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <54AB440B.2030201@calorieking.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:10:19 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 02:10:33 -0000 On 05/01/15 23:48, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: >>>> I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, >>> Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and >> exactly >>> which Intel graphics does it have? >> My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 > > As Polytropon pointed out, it is a "Valley View Gen7" GPU, apparently a > successor to Bay Trail. Whether the FreeBSD version of the X intel > driver supports that yet, I don't know. I had good response on Freenode IRC at #intel-gfx when asking about my details. Here's how I got the relevant info (device is "Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller" in a new Core i3): # pciconf -l pci0:0:2:0 | grep vgapci0 vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x20548086 chip=0x0a168086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 bwidawks on #intel-gfx gave me http://sprunge.us/DNbF From chip=... I extracted 0a16 $ curl http://sprunge.us/DNbF | grep -i 0a16 CHIPSET(0x0A16, hsw_gt2, "Intel(R) Haswell Mobile") Riastradh and bwidawks said that meant the required driver support is for GT2, which is not listed at intel(4x) right now, implying there is not yet support for it. I'm therefore using the vesa driver. HTH, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 02:16:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA486A0B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 02:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C21064C4D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 02:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k14so10736362wgh.30 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:16:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=a4sNr0KSAw4TMkI6Gb2L/NQQsbqAmlZslTST4DxWnzk=; b=YG3xnpFEjAA6jiaAMJbs3cmLG3ioCjwAPLf40uoORPx6z0fRaqPAl8qHQ0j5/EKCH0 NsheXXI4cSdgJuSdptItahheqK2ZotXYbkErLL4/5DmWHXd0DCKsq7lVtj8bhBkEbm9k vVC3GBWoxdOT4RjXPXovMQb/jM3nM7foEVk2dpFoWR9Ztd5IyLJ/bAEMN48ns5l3CCGf zjPklbpmzpKZgyFD+JcGkAGsUocWTVKGllEn7Rb5/tD4B5v9u7l/IEixkXdwYbS7fv/a uGG19xMsbWhZErLUTL3fRDclDqh/oZblph8BoKKUn1JtjVfn14oNx3d2fvrkpqHGzCT7 3XeQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.24.103 with SMTP id t7mr187247649wjf.15.1420510564682; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:16:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.41.136 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:16:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54AB440B.2030201@calorieking.com> References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> <54AB440B.2030201@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:16:04 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 41wW0-qDa2keUcutO_7gYT4mKNQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD From: Adrian Chadd To: Gregory Orange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 02:16:06 -0000 ... yes, the OP has something that the freebsd dri code currently doesn't yet support. I don't think the VESA output stuff has output control, so it won't work. -adrian On 5 January 2015 at 18:10, Gregory Orange wrote: > On 05/01/15 23:48, Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, >>>> >>>> Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and >>> >>> exactly >>>> >>>> which Intel graphics does it have? >>> >>> My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 >> >> >> As Polytropon pointed out, it is a "Valley View Gen7" GPU, apparently a >> successor to Bay Trail. Whether the FreeBSD version of the X intel >> driver supports that yet, I don't know. > > > I had good response on Freenode IRC at #intel-gfx when asking about my > details. Here's how I got the relevant info (device is "Haswell-ULT > Integrated Graphics Controller" in a new Core i3): > > # pciconf -l pci0:0:2:0 | grep vgapci0 > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x20548086 chip=0x0a168086 > rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 > > bwidawks on #intel-gfx gave me http://sprunge.us/DNbF > > From chip=... I extracted 0a16 > $ curl http://sprunge.us/DNbF | grep -i 0a16 > CHIPSET(0x0A16, hsw_gt2, "Intel(R) Haswell Mobile") > > Riastradh and bwidawks said that meant the required driver support is for > GT2, which is not listed at intel(4x) right now, implying there is not yet > support for it. 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Warning: Although the company has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments. -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- jA0EAwMCCxQatOtR3HJgyUzkpYCwawb6IHA5bU7yo1+iePGiJXR/s0Lgm0r2LipX Ob9H+wh+4MUDPawIsIveHZ+53EoKetZYyLC9kXtwwlWKoC15DBZt6dba0a0q =j1nl -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:29:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 073F1E5A for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f49.google.com (mail-yh0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2E8A6633E for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f49.google.com with SMTP id f10so11303852yha.22 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:29:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=GkhNV2WB/nrzHOVMGp/KHlsfqZAZZz0kPiyo2uCYkag=; b=V7GWVXwkQ1M7x2ZfdzCyX62vhPWzC/nMJUfNUKLo4VT5DjRjbGacU7nH6Olnte/p6z l4/+wbX4P+LM97A4wPmVrTBNol3JVRHPmaJZYn1EcnjpVoRUdQyuAu6IlY77+v6u5JIQ DoPFB658/Vr6bssOHho80tnFvqrXgIbefksAuGGkLWu9ryiaiqeTPTULz4kppplrUuTU 9fo8xAnhM07/Lfa65eqnOj8CpBPjAOA4IFKi/xx+iKpLSeMQKrt1bdTVXotzQ7p78T6C vhBghLAc+kpysfakMZVQRpgJUHqhNXI5Hy5ApuMWtrd5/UlSOsCF8MPUyBFCBB/7MRZ0 3RPw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm53jDUsw9EyOg6JIJYJXFd3zr83IuSj7RFAtngUyF0vhztRUn2StvimeJDqqZb8aQpCfcZ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.216.131 with SMTP id i125mr32033043ykf.61.1420536080910; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.88.69 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 01:21:20 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [81.217.14.197] Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:21:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: a jenisch To: gnome@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:29:15 -0000 Hi, In the process of upgrading one of my systems (FreeBSD amd64, 9.3-STABLE) I came across the update from gnome2 to gnome 3. The corresponding entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING says ---------- < cut here > ---------- 20141119: AFFECTS: users of x11/gnome2, graphics/clutter and lang/vala ... Make a list of the installed ports: # pkg info > ~/installed-ports-list Delete the old and conflicting packages: # pkg delete clutter gnome-utils gnome-panel gnome-keyring vala-vapigen \ guile gcalctool gnome-media libgnomekbd gnome-themes at-spi # pkg delete gnome-screensaver gnome-applets bug-buddy \ evolution-exchange evolution-webcal gnome-system-tools \ seahorse-plugins gnome-control-center For package users the following lines will be enough: # pkg upgrade # pkg install gnome3 For ports users should do the following: # portmaster -a # portmaster x11/gnome3 ---------- < cut here > ---------- Up to and including the "pkg delete" entries everything went OK. But when I tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" I only got # pkg install gnome3 Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gnome3' have been found in the repositories # The only gnome3-related thing that seems to be available as package seems to be "gnome3-lite" which clearly is not the full gnome3. Even though I normally use portupgrade for upgrading my ports I tried to run the two portmaster commands given in "UPDATING" but again this didn't work. Just out of curiosity I went and installed a fresh 10.1 System and tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" there - again gnome3 couldn't be found as a package; so this seems to be a more general issue. So here are my questions: o) Has anybody else out there experienced similar issues in upgrading from gnome2 to gnome3? o) How can I get gnome3 on my system again? o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:34:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B030F6F; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com (mail-wg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A136644A; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x12so28811388wgg.38; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=o7Tu0tS8bOqMQYyT0cLOjlfbK4JC/LYSyge2wUCojSU=; b=JV6Oe08Tg8Y/zHptGOq7ZP7dKqFS2F59IOgtq2j9+m0x6u+TQbjIZ5UwzOFEqsLmEq xJJ0ZMfTLUgrs/Tubw5en4gulBdpN2966VEaM2UWOZOqNm6qWX0p6U9/Y9T+lDIhXE4K wUQIkWVWt40fhMWIdb4Td+OAssIhL4efxVdAI5adNrsinG4ZpPNek3A3/L7p5rkY7/rO s7udsG9OB0yiEenVwtUYCOTBZI4ey4l2729hnFOTWoaz+B1T/Br60YaRfCLSLba7wjep 4r2VB1veQYzAL3ksLdtdZdX07/R/WiDfbx2XLlk/N0+MakZwp0bMSdi/GUKndZf3nGBO aFEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.157.4 with SMTP id wi4mr186645105wjb.54.1420536853472; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.241.132 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:34:13 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: Ben Woods To: a jenisch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "gnome@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:34:15 -0000 The most recent build of the ports system skipped the gnome3 port because the freerdp port is a dependency and had linker errors when building. http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=10amd64-default&build=2014-12-31_03h22m27s http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/data/10amd64-default/2014-12-31_03h22m27s/logs/errors/freerdp-1.1.0_2.log Hopefully the errors will be resolved soon, and the gnome3 package will be once again available after the next package run. Regards, Ben On Tuesday, January 6, 2015, a jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of upgrading one of my systems (FreeBSD amd64, > 9.3-STABLE) I came across the update from gnome2 to gnome 3. > The corresponding entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING says > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > 20141119: > AFFECTS: users of x11/gnome2, graphics/clutter and lang/vala > ... > Make a list of the installed ports: > # pkg info > ~/installed-ports-list > > Delete the old and conflicting packages: > # pkg delete clutter gnome-utils gnome-panel gnome-keyring vala-vapigen \ > guile gcalctool gnome-media libgnomekbd gnome-themes at-spi > # pkg delete gnome-screensaver gnome-applets bug-buddy \ > evolution-exchange evolution-webcal gnome-system-tools \ > seahorse-plugins gnome-control-center > For package users the following lines will be enough: > # pkg upgrade > # pkg install gnome3 > > For ports users should do the following: > # portmaster -a > # portmaster x11/gnome3 > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > Up to and including the "pkg delete" entries everything went OK. > > But when I tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" I only got > > # pkg install gnome3 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gnome3' have been > found in the repositories > # > > The only gnome3-related thing that seems to be available as package > seems to be "gnome3-lite" which clearly is not the full gnome3. > > Even though I normally use portupgrade for upgrading my ports I tried > to run the two portmaster commands given in "UPDATING" but again this > didn't work. > > Just out of curiosity I went and installed a fresh 10.1 System and > tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" there - again gnome3 couldn't be > found as a package; so this seems to be a more general issue. > > > > So here are my questions: > > o) Has anybody else out there experienced similar issues in upgrading > from gnome2 to gnome3? > > o) How can I get gnome3 on my system again? > > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? > > Thanks much in advance for your help, > -ewald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:37:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A922072B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73783664BA for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [204.210.114.114] ([204.210.114.114:42252] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B2/09-09485-22BABA45; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:30:10 +0000 Received: by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C890C5C8A; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:34:49 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:34:49 -1000 From: Parv To: "Morse, Richard E.,MGH" Subject: Re: TeTeX retirement instructions? Message-ID: <20150106093449.GA1687@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Parv , "Morse, Richard E.,MGH" , "questions@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.142:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=AZI/HhnG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:117 a=lLOF/jpPrR0dcgWXP1EvZg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=YNv0rlydsVwA:10 a=dXaP2R2kzins82pq8ccA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:37:30 -0000 in message , wrote Morse, Richard E.,MGH thusly... > > Hi! According to the announcement back in 2013 regarding TeX: > > > teTeX-based ports and TeXLive are mutually exclusive. This > > means TeXLive ports cannot be installed when teTeX is already > > installed. You need to remove all of the TeX-related packages > > based on teTeX to try TeXLive. Migration procedure will be > > announced when conversion of the port dependency is completed. > > The only "migration procedure" that I was later able to find was > an announcement on 2014-07-23: > > > TeXLive is now the default teX provider. > > Please remove all TeX-related packages based on teTeX. > > I'm not sure this actually counts as a "migration procedure". How > did other people make the transition? "Dr Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love the Bomb." I had been stalling the update of TeTeX. Then one day portmaster just did it for me, either indirectly or I did it myself. I might have uninstalled 1 to n ports manually. I had not used TeTeX in a long time personally, nor I have yet the chance (well, there was one but I used something else) to use TexLive personally. There have not been any problems with TexLive in relation to installation of other ports|packages. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:44:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AEFDEF5 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f50.google.com (mail-yh0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC10166638 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b6so385328yha.23 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:44:19 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t1TzrnptIPzm2W9xzTy1XwgWDCx7D05UTrLDY3pS5O8=; b=KrvVbxddI4lSu1s8cKFzLT7AqV971SshxD5ZHGAWpqI7TJw2td8B4eB4gacH3IQ2Xr PwadyhptSPEbf8lDp75mt+/sPx7troyFIwAfh9h+LtmBC5rDyJ4oYzRzzxMZcOXTfKG2 wOhEVg+OUadCg5XpCSltWOc3BwyrXmK29kyR2X1y86OyuMYQI+zxZQOH8sx5kGZ9j37l 6O+v7uXNm9DGlm6tUGgnhP9CcBEmHAugS3THfWJAx7UGZt1eJQncZuUdLrHXLG4J6asZ 5lkawmN1zQhfU/1kRZ2w+fJHCLoCqgyjgrhbygkC5e7dUm2eJXltqfxAYClNdSdar8zc N3sg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnDJULM9oOb49WEbxndo0aPTFQvU7+dl9Ml2aEMixqe9AHfdAVYle6VDF+dznL9uDi6lErL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.40.116 with SMTP id e80mr60999002yhb.186.1420537458937; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 01:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.88.69 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 01:44:18 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [81.217.14.197] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:44:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: a jenisch To: Ben Woods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "gnome@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:44:26 -0000 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Ben Woods wrote: > The most recent build of the ports system skipped the gnome3 port because > the freerdp port is a dependency and had linker errors when building. > Hi Ben, Thanks much for the almost instant reply ;-) At least it's good to know that it's a more general issue and help is on the way. All the best, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:45:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BECAFD for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from host.iitmandi.net.in (host.iitmandi.net.in [204.197.250.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBDF666650 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 09:45:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=iitmandi.ac.in; s=default; h=Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=tFS9l7p+icrwxCysVo9Bd9w1F2I9i9FiGHkGheNTyf4=; b=IwjP47eLFBko3CxtRSMQIvL7CrY+eGWHNvaam4z8rH0rR3L3kAMoTYZNKU9L75uRy5NsH7smKhQ/eR+HFOwKwzB3zHgOOIrMq+jXiH1SHqEeT2JZPJjfkDxmtzTHnC1bQBFTTaf7XI10xTAbiCy+2+wfL/Y3cSBC1tmp9bm4WCE=; Received: from [14.139.34.2] (port=60263 helo=[10.8.3.201]) by host.iitmandi.net.in with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8QHq-0001yh-6H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:48:50 +0530 Message-ID: <54ABA7F6.50708@iitmandi.ac.in> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:46:38 +0530 From: Lalit Thakur User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Username/ Password for VM image 10.1 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.iitmandi.net.in X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - iitmandi.ac.in X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.iitmandi.net.in: authenticated_id: lalit@iitmandi.ac.in X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:45:32 -0000 Please tell me the username/password for VM image FreeBSD 10.1 -- /*Thanks & Regards* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lalit Thakur, JLA, SCEE, Academic Block, IIT Mandi,Himachal Pradesh. 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Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B46666994 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-251-159.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.251.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 836813CCFF; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:33:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t06BXLlC002812; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:33:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:33:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lev Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150106123321.31c89156.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:33:26 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:55:03 +0100, Lev wrote: > 1. Lack of ext4 support. As a Linux user, I have lots of disks with ext4 > partition, and I simply wanted to copy files, but failed. I might be naive, > but ext4 is open, so why can't FreeBSD have native support for ext4? Because of the amount of available file systems especially in Linux (more than 5), having them supported along with the operating system (!) is not FreeBSD's way to go. Instead you can find support in 3rd party software: The ports collection contains fuse which allows you to access many kinds of different file systems. To mount an ext4 partition, install sysutils/fusefs-ext4fuse and load the fuse.ko kernel module. Then you should be able to perform the mount operation: # ext4fuse /dev/da0s1 /mnt It's probably a good idea to add "-o ro" if you just want to copy files _from_ the ext4 partition. The OS itself has just a limited support for foreign file systems. FUSE is the right tool if you need that. > 3. Package system. I wanted to install scilab. There is (?) no binary package > for it, and the compilation took ages. After I had it, the next update deleted > it along with other packages. How to deal with the upgrades? Read the primer on pkg, if you want to use binary packages. I think scilab should have one available. https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgPrimer https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pkgng-intro.html More detailed info: https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=pkg&sektion=7 55! from JO52TD :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 11:34:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B2BBBD0; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.firstyear.id.au (2001-44b8-016a-0004-0000-0000-0000-0001.static.ipv6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:16a:4::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C400E669C6; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.134.252.3] (unknown [1.125.0.117]) by mail.firstyear.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8844441CE586; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:04:34 +1030 (ACDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: William X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B435) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:04:38 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9251A786-9105-4C09-B986-3D2B3ED74F31@firstyear.id.au> References: To: a jenisch X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lyra.ipa.blackhats.net.au Cc: "gnome@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:34:39 -0000 >=20 > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? >=20 Try the port for MATE: its a fork of gnome 2. A few little bits need some tw= eaking but it works very well and is very stable. Sincerely William= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 11:39:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 362A9D0B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.vlymskerp.net (mail.vlymskerp.net [197.189.214.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C154066A3C for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.vlymskerp.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vlymskerp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F308BD87F; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:39:40 +0200 (SAST) Received: by mail.vlymskerp.net (Postfix, from userid 5001) id 440BBB2404; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:39:40 +0200 (SAST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on vps1.vlymskerp.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from penguin.cerberia (penguin.vlymskerp.vpn [10.8.0.14]) by mail.vlymskerp.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B410ABD87F; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:39:39 +0200 (SAST) From: Coert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:39:28 +0200 Message-ID: <1981115.3KbsofypGG@penguin.cerberia> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.14.2; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Lev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:39:50 -0000 On Tuesday 06 January 2015 11:55:03 Lev wrote: > Sorry for my ignorance, I am a Linux refugee. > > I learned that Debian is also goes with the systemd nightmare, so I started > to look around and install other OSs. > > So I started using FreeBSD, and I kinda liked it, but there were several > "show stoppers", so for the time being I had to go back to Debian. > > My greatest concern were these. I ask here, maybe I missed something and I > can move to FreeBSD. > > 1. Lack of ext4 support. As a Linux user, I have lots of disks with ext4 > partition, and I simply wanted to copy files, but failed. I might be naive, > but ext4 is open, so why can't FreeBSD have native support for ext4? > > 2. I have a PCI-serial interface card that stopped booting the kernel. It > said something like "not standard serial port". According to lspci on Linux > this is: > > NetMos Technology PCI 9845 Multi-I/O Controller > > 3. Package system. I wanted to install scilab. There is (?) no binary > package for it, and the compilation took ages. After I had it, the next > update deleted it along with other packages. How to deal with the upgrades? > > Thank you for your answers, and I hope one day I will be a FreeBSD user. > > 73! de HA5OGL > Levente > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Lev, I am also a bit of a linux refugee. Used/using Gentoo and Redhat EL. To be able to mount an ext4 file system, install fusefs-ext4fuse There are also Fuse modules for NTFS and such. The packages/ports thing, At first I also suffered with this, More or less the bottom line is, pkg (pkgng since FreeBSD 9 I think) is used for binary packages, and binary upgrades. ports is the same concept, just that everything happens from source. The binary packages are compiled with standard configs that most people would use. That is probably why scilab is in ports, and not available as a package. Install ports-mgmt/portmaster or portupgrade. They make working with ports a breeze. Hope this helps, Coert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 11:43:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DAFADD4 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D136B66B18 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t06BhR23075890 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:43:34 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t06BhR23075890 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/t06BhR23075890; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <54ABCA56.7070102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:43:18 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Username/ Password for VM image 10.1 References: <54ABA7F6.50708@iitmandi.ac.in> In-Reply-To: <54ABA7F6.50708@iitmandi.ac.in> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ie0mU6KrTOm0J2lbPUxEuxj9FoA0djver" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:43:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ie0mU6KrTOm0J2lbPUxEuxj9FoA0djver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/01/2015 09:16, Lalit Thakur wrote: > Please tell me the username/password for VM image FreeBSD 10.1 It's probably username 'root' and a blank password. That's the default for all the live-CD environments on the installation media, and as the VM images are built from the same systems, it's likely to be the same there too. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --ie0mU6KrTOm0J2lbPUxEuxj9FoA0djver Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUq8pfXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT82gP/3FRbcr8cLcmTCRvem/0ugia sd6TeSecswPU8JCTZwfLBpBTeDJisJMkSPbphhd40VGkLDnMji6ODOoWromlmiXk nrU+Xme1rsqFxFbrp2OJ+Qt9iqyC6ubslhp7bXprQLEX6++7r6AkNbxpyKL/jUK4 1+Zb1im11QVeQfiURQfK8UVxH3fIIWec1QxnAPgWCNxc3idopkfPfmnRD2Fuidhw bBRxP/kwWsXYAixkiKlKEhPXNB72eJDknZmL1IwhYpspOklJ2dZu36P/5yuFiqos 2Stz0l3lUtwCuTStjyy+EJTdpHRDn8WhOY54L0GcquLyFZOFnz1PUwIpa9KJ80/R XiTpAqVaktWzflHpAl/B4UB+ky/EdbbXDN60r+iNmhh8ARYn01G9rr3xWZ1ul69S tovu1k/wGLF1G8HImmOIu3cU7A/cX9I0/rWzYbTPZD4uAgeAEu3ogcJ7R16EH6+G 6h3isT0y4IjAEAv/TSyhRG0hE2fXtE3QZNnshnuZ2aBNY4Q2E3b73Bxsda8V4DHm 81hgb3dudZ/wXkmFpS5fKk8q3A5ZudPvabft52fw8hmvkmbarBpxUsD688eTNTHj URGKaqLxU6Zt6mDiITIkgN8B/8alYWWyw4E2HroMyExKo5/jxqdEq9JQ2/nUjfO5 nLZHXTQXi8UyNBjUqIQL =BPNZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ie0mU6KrTOm0J2lbPUxEuxj9FoA0djver-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:01:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6880A267 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF34E66CEC for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id w62so9506113wes.41 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 04:01:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cmCIl3Shr1Pi5wrbkK/kXI/UU4BRdMzxS4el3YIHn/I=; b=C4rmBwSZvLnhJMx3IaMCAxAbRRmYp3vKIrBDfFCNbduxaxAbzmBkrIO2gmfOHWu7wI NiAqpNdkWJMTDHnznfrs5d+xsWQA7qjPOe8gal2E/QHvp9/VyR6+9NSIeQeOAMOegqxH FssUxGu92hdLyE6lyXC5kP5YW8+SWSQBRL9cqYX/TPNInJZV+dhvd9ggf61HC0avS1Or 9BlLv4Q0kN/oVC1E8PUe1qxv6/vBIwTIAdoeDdi4X3dimawCjgBsrVs3Y/ltrF9c3guY I5bFaZYJqRdWKs85apuYb6W0FJoF2E1STjcEKumKUyoc8nbkZ8L4rxLqNH3f7yqR7RI8 Ohog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.187.235 with SMTP id fv11mr190051733wjc.16.1420545669421; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 04:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.241.132 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 04:01:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:01:09 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee From: Ben Woods To: Lev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:01:11 -0000 > 3. Package system. I wanted to install scilab. There is (?) no binary package > for it, and the compilation took ages. After I had it, the next update deleted > it along with other packages. How to deal with the upgrades? The port math/scilab depends on the port java/jgraphx. scilab is skipped during the package build process because jgraphx cannot be packaged due to the need for interactive license confirmation during the build process. The can be confirmed against the latest package build here: http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=10amd64-default&build=2014-12-31_03h22m27s As per Coert's message, you can build both java/jgraphx and math/scilab manually from ports, or use an automated ports tool such as ports-mgmt/portmaster, or setup a package building infrastructure using ports-mgmt/poudriere. -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:29:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6A94530 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9567364115 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-251-159.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.251.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CFBE2768A; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:29:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t06CTYbg003284; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:29:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:29:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ben Woods Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Lev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:29:44 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:01:09 +0800, Ben Woods wrote: > > 3. Package system. I wanted to install scilab. There is (?) no binary > package > > for it, and the compilation took ages. After I had it, the next update > deleted > > it along with other packages. How to deal with the upgrades? > > The port math/scilab depends on the port java/jgraphx. scilab is skipped > during the package build process because jgraphx cannot be packaged due to > the need for interactive license confirmation during the build process. The > can be confirmed against the latest package build here: > http://beefy2.isc.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=10amd64-default&build=2014-12-31_03h22m27s Licensing issue of a dependency. Very "nice". :-) > As per Coert's message, you can build both java/jgraphx and math/scilab > manually from ports, or use an automated ports tool such as > ports-mgmt/portmaster, or setup a package building infrastructure using > ports-mgmt/poudriere. You can use portmaster with the -P or -PP switches (to force the use of binary packages when they are available) to avoid building all the dependencies from source. You could also issue the command "make missing" in /usr/ports/math/scilab to find out what's missing, and then install those with pkg. YOu could even write a one-liner for that task... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:50:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25095911 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA825644F2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id ccnh1p003516WCc01cniHk; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:47:42 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=UL5THUvy c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=YNv0rlydsVwA:10 a=KITGXY27tmAexpilpVgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8TXv-00036d-Bh; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:47:41 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:47:39 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: Polytropon Message-Id: <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Ben Woods , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Lev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:50:56 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:29:34 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > You can use portmaster with the -P or -PP switches (to force > the use of binary packages when they are available) to avoid > building all the dependencies from source. Unfortunately this has not been possible since the switch to pkg-ng. ----------------------------------------------------------------- curlew:/tmp# portmaster -PP xsane ===>>> Package installation support cannot be used with pkgng yet, it will be disabled ===>>> Currently installed version: xsane-0.999_4 ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/graphics/xsane ===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for graphics/xsane in background ===>>> Gathering dependency list for graphics/xsane from ports ===>>> Initial dependency check complete for graphics/xsane ===>>> Starting build for graphics/xsane <<<=== ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 13:07:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51E3612F for ; 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References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:41:24 -0000 On 05/01/15 23:07, Warren Block wrote: > There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in > text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can > make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. sysctl -a doesn't show this setting - is there a way to confirm this is in place? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 14:45:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02667973 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 14:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com (mail-lb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7331C1854 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 14:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id p9so19634148lbv.0 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:45:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=73KHQkU88OEQ7t6mAE3Wq+RLWFJL5XHf1mz7ORF4/f8=; b=fWEeEhVnfkcAhhTBLElvCPh7hgJ2hglRUWG9rKNYYlUdP/UgFkflkZmx40WomZg+Io 4HMJHun0p3GqVQJcfCOnSSbRCcwhWGjoPVAmBoCXpuuZqEXU/8d8BpDSmdJjhRG2yGpn i5A7HlpbFf/1iyH+v5WT8jj5tklLM54AO3KoQK5UhmJFrZ/TPXGmw2K8QG3K/JmPiI/L TGjGLjwsB5aWwrNXvhqL3EBKRrR0ZUIyBaQXLXpZC69jnXzM0A2YzEV3B2BsrAEjw9S4 9oVa7YCrYHUyvpEcJGoVtki0Bax3EmeqS13eebJWFYREHRYoCClnqRoiwHEaDz+aPY6T cWeQ== X-Received: by 10.152.204.70 with SMTP id kw6mr101304661lac.53.1420555556447; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lazlar.no-ip.biz (213-64-218-92-no126.business.telia.com. [213.64.218.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mc17sm13555585lbb.1.2015.01.06.06.45.55 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:45:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54ABF51A.3030706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:45:46 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , Lev Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106123321.31c89156.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150106123321.31c89156.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:45:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-01-06 12:33, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:55:03 +0100, Lev wrote: >> 1. Lack of ext4 support. As a Linux user, I have lots of disks >> with ext4 partition, and I simply wanted to copy files, but >> failed. I might be naive, but ext4 is open, so why can't FreeBSD >> have native support for ext4? > > Because of the amount of available file systems especially in Linux > (more than 5), having them supported along with the operating > system (!) is not FreeBSD's way to go. Instead you can find support > in 3rd party software: The ports collection contains fuse which > allows you to access many kinds of different file systems. Isn't the issue more about ext4 being GPL licensed than about maintaining support for several filesystems? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUq/UMAAoJEPJMW41Co4JgZvwP/Ax8ZIdWOLbuC1OFz+ccHryR 9j0EJ/CM1+hd6rbNX4TGgHroNyTjt2R6O4Osw+wCHQ+gHtij6ItkFnAj6WXvaHhH OWxoBOL+t0qluY+52YDg+8bMw2eJvX6o8E79U4n0XzXRwsbDa0K2Yxt5vgv6buoI W1QRLXYSIO4Xt80NIOyfe7qC9GqJLz7psM/a76NhcFEo51PXRiPsvuh3rwTj589A 7vUg2WBBoniVOH55wpaaxq1t+nYy31dJYp/+VA4VbN3Avz2t+R4kygp1FSdETMJw +ZLbtKzWyjBoWokJ3YbUtrK22sy7pXpyRrBvXEVYKWmxZin7EaO1t8/z74ILigPR Q0FRf/ptuOwObEdudxyeI+ZGc3yITlpczhC/0FFmboBu+Ue7KlxmUIYyleaEY2mw YD0P2+GxCQ6XWfICmoF33H7gCfIcZW2UDJ8X1n6c1ICg2vyt+QiBWqPqPl+fZPr1 GHvsPyHEPjkquRIJFykaDyPS7skwCrwRYWXeJOeF7197wAIJIbByzIwusbFazxZP MRmYS9NyCeTrjNeCEefm5ijrqZ1Oh18TvG00xg5czwWFNrWR+alXfP6ixyS5n9f7 CfzjCdOo/4s/ZrQnrhxvx2eLhb/C7qyLOTJOcKCRAppuL3S6OKbtWTqdgVn6llwE dsqPP0r6rX4lTlIRuITz =Sg4P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 14:56:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3D9EFA7 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 14:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22f.google.com (mail-pd0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B7B1ABA for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 14:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id g10so30550363pdj.34 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:56:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8YW7t/MNMUPCoRnSFzQbs5EPvHzlBcCfuFz7ztC6G+8=; b=NzdC9qw5P9Q6/IOt8KsocP+7PrQz/gJCLhvi96adIf1C/ncFM9fCIT+Xyf3iDEpj8g 19S95KyrNPoE6Uj+JrYA3f7pUZJMSZqR+5QP6n5wdvcNxR7Vega8DkxPVUzRtoayXPCe jaoDjFLQk03mhWN7Mn8t0g1n6dpQssL5q7Lnk2l6GzWcnsPxgmefBOA8+KQ5lZfTqrlq OJU4LXUgN/vUYE4niXR8YqAtG8jzRVTedGRjgFrzoTtr2YNYFXgZ+Cr+WqBXZiRWf6X6 Ld2HZ0QKjRdhOzDXVOOF6s9wbbR3/iGhyhr0lLVvCqkfUT/WvuRYSlFGy+ZHxgfLmdKi h1hA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.136.137 with SMTP id qa9mr153706926pab.129.1420556167896; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 06:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.101.133 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 06:56:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54ABF51A.3030706@gmail.com> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106123321.31c89156.freebsd@edvax.de> <54ABF51A.3030706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 08:56:07 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee From: Adam Vande More To: Rolf Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , Lev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:56:08 -0000 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > Isn't the issue more about ext4 being GPL licensed than about > maintaining support for several filesystems? > Not at all. It's a perfectly reasonable solution to implement ext4 in base with a BSD implementation, but no one has taken this on yet. Even if importing GPLv3 in base wasn't an issue, you can't simply copy the code. Extensive kernel/VFS and userland changes would need to accompany it. It's not a trivial task otherwise it likely would have already been done. Besides, ext4 is just a poor excuse for SU so what's really the point? If you really want to use ext4 then use it natively. Same problems exist in the Linux world for it's non-native FS's. -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 15:19:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4C4A71 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C0C51F0D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-251-159.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.251.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28F32277F7; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:19:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t06FJcfq001974; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:19:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:19:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Rolf Nielsen Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150106161938.7549175c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <54ABF51A.3030706@gmail.com> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106123321.31c89156.freebsd@edvax.de> <54ABF51A.3030706@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:19:42 -0000 On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:45:46 +0100, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2015-01-06 12:33, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:55:03 +0100, Lev wrote: > >> 1. Lack of ext4 support. As a Linux user, I have lots of disks > >> with ext4 partition, and I simply wanted to copy files, but > >> failed. I might be naive, but ext4 is open, so why can't FreeBSD > >> have native support for ext4? > > > > Because of the amount of available file systems especially in Linux > > (more than 5), having them supported along with the operating > > system (!) is not FreeBSD's way to go. Instead you can find support > > in 3rd party software: The ports collection contains fuse which > > allows you to access many kinds of different file systems. > > Isn't the issue more about ext4 being GPL licensed than about > maintaining support for several filesystems? ZFS support is CDDL, not BSDL, but even though I think the goal of getting the OS free of GNU and GPL stuff leads to attempts to have as much BSDL code in base as possible, not having ext4 support in the OS (kernel!) is a technical consideration. On Linux, significant parts of the file system access are being implemented in the kernel, but FreeBSD's kernel simply isn't a Linux kernel. So moving this functionality into userland (with FUSE) is probably the better approach. You don't want to break your kernel by adding bells & whistles just to cope with this week's newest fashion of "the standard file system". :-) With FUSE, foreign file systems can be easier interfaced with because their "lower level functions" are implemented against FreeBSD's virtual file system support. All this can stay in userland, without interfering with the kernel and the common userland tools. A (one!) specific loadable kernel module can provide the "low level" access where it is needed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 15:21:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA40B41 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73A099 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:21:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s2048; t=1420557678; bh=IxqaWW+yLhgNnHPVd+8Ic+RJm1aPaJR02FCxPMH7TvM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=Hw/rS1ljIpbcvNF+w7aMrRsXIGHXjwXCfmLxqHhaI2qTicw+Xw81QLlHXPA+Ebkl2AzmvvEuMWXp2flFOJHgG3eWN6wkBJkW28zUT3pHJPicCEd7dFxImNFq35TW2fbiwg0nSKTo8s0z8q+Sd3Bj0agK+fh52trRqnePXyTZMUVXPEPw5HwmXh/Xjya5nDUwr2PXij48Hnf8iJsRADveLRvILtBeP7ND6FzF0hy3MFzApaIS2kA9TnVDWADElO1UNwO2W4WxnCAfUnPYQLxUOydy4MKKiBith6rEzGdzr+F/a82vXGj06jbQyD5eyeLwZ7flZhBbwV3xYru5qOkRfQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.es; b=jBEhdGZudDOut/BNRScO72FGaZsFTOjTOhSe2cQ1cEQYhwV0raK/aV7nNBNI3zfLsm/BkXfgw9FlnDx8R1pIpHq+3p4t4uBNsTx07iv0cZ1VMEvCHkDvzuh7GmHfy8t2Jxg8hwWAKXTeSm8IuoIFHJiKXS9xcPPJLHR0rV0NQKCAzyNGtHY858Vglry0zgTw+RBBH7lgDylJht+uidO3gHVYgODyCWTsDZD/V+AArYuKXdpn3qr5KteSK/mMT2wLAnHxeiFqMawQHHUItChs5/tzkGesFAEq0fkCugONpsSUJegF1XKqmhcB+mT87tRhP6zTCm7vsCZKBTmXEQZJfg==; Received: from [212.82.98.60] by nm31.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2015 15:21:18 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.93] by tm13.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2015 15:21:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2015 15:21:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 931953.28284.bm@smtp130.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FJkwMPcVM1mpxgiUFAR0mJ95Y74en.7e2wT.AUgiWh6I4ZT KKF9NwsnykFyj9u0haWef9zugl8fcoSV_l6W9CpfeRxVOE_5_LVvqIW6cr6R Qhd0o1dotRvUjdKp1SJ9kMM9w7ID2xzmvv1_RAp0idBYmT7jgpSalyUdyTfX DIb4tT7jVIwXl0Va7a98Ily53E24LJqDanSkNRaCuKc82jBROobMRVK0ywkh G_aK0UD2fOkeseLniU_fJuu5QnLkZuLkQ.HHzk9AJseXjMb9oxoJhSecWAIa 8jPOnZTv531XXGje0zh44VW8kpddItbdS4zmJgD3S0wtutdhJDpa1P.lnw_z WawvsZGxqboVesE.1MHJIaEaV5yHs01axR5wOxcyUS7jFjAh2ADBKWneoKbj 8OphetQqdqRwmxVJBu0QUud8AD.rdkFV_5JE0r26qHx71KN0pRxPnw2aEvxf 7yLtG6bee73uK3lYZASImCcxXGZuoFz40SQWc.UKfeO2FjinJL.uNuPl0afL 1 X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:21:19 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150106162119.dc015e352f66375d6ea6bacd@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:21:27 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:55:03 +0100 Lev wrote: > Sorry for my ignorance, I am a Linux refugee. > > I learned that Debian is also goes with the systemd nightmare, so I > started to look around and install other OSs. > > So I started using FreeBSD, and I kinda liked it, but there were > several "show stoppers", so for the time being I had to go back to > Debian. > > My greatest concern were these. I ask here, maybe I missed something > and I can move to FreeBSD. > > 1. Lack of ext4 support. As a Linux user, I have lots of disks with > ext4 partition, and I simply wanted to copy files, but failed. I > might be naive, but ext4 is open, so why can't FreeBSD have native > support for ext4? You can use fuse or virtualbox with a Linux VM. --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 15:32:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DE35A8 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA4C217 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-251-159.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.251.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DEEC277FD; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:32:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t06FW2ah002013; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:32:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:32:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Mike Clarke Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 15:32:06 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:47:39 +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:29:34 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > > You can use portmaster with the -P or -PP switches (to force > > the use of binary packages when they are available) to avoid > > building all the dependencies from source. > > Unfortunately this has not been possible since the switch to pkg-ng. Thanks for raising awareness! Until it becomes available, it's probably not that wrong to perform a command construct like "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies via pkg where possible, and then use compiling from source where neccessary. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 16:31:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D03139A for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B14D2F4E for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 1DFF8CB8C93; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 10:12:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "a jenisch" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 16:31:17 -0000 On Tue, January 6, 2015 3:21 am, a jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of upgrading one of my systems (FreeBSD amd64, > 9.3-STABLE) I came across the update from gnome2 to gnome 3. > The corresponding entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING says > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > 20141119: > AFFECTS: users of x11/gnome2, graphics/clutter and lang/vala > ... > Make a list of the installed ports: > # pkg info > ~/installed-ports-list > > Delete the old and conflicting packages: > # pkg delete clutter gnome-utils gnome-panel gnome-keyring vala-vapigen > \ > guile gcalctool gnome-media libgnomekbd gnome-themes at-spi > # pkg delete gnome-screensaver gnome-applets bug-buddy \ > evolution-exchange evolution-webcal gnome-system-tools \ > seahorse-plugins gnome-control-center > For package users the following lines will be enough: > # pkg upgrade > # pkg install gnome3 > > For ports users should do the following: > # portmaster -a > # portmaster x11/gnome3 > > ---------- < cut here > ---------- > > Up to and including the "pkg delete" entries everything went OK. > > But when I tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" I only got > > # pkg install gnome3 > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gnome3' have been > found in the repositories > # > > The only gnome3-related thing that seems to be available as package > seems to be "gnome3-lite" which clearly is not the full gnome3. > > Even though I normally use portupgrade for upgrading my ports I tried > to run the two portmaster commands given in "UPDATING" but again this > didn't work. > > Just out of curiosity I went and installed a fresh 10.1 System and > tried to do a "pkg install gnome3" there - again gnome3 couldn't be > found as a package; so this seems to be a more general issue. > > > > So here are my questions: > > o) Has anybody else out there experienced similar issues in upgrading > from gnome2 to gnome3? > > o) How can I get gnome3 on my system again? > > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? > > Thanks much in advance for your help, > -ewald On a side note (as I do not know if at all it is applicable to you): I for one just switched away from Gnome 3: in a course of upgrade from FreeBSD 10.0 to 10.1 I was made to "step up" from Gnome 2 to Gnome 3 (successfully in my case - on technical side of it). And after a couple of weeks of frustration of just trying to do what I usually do on my workstation I decided to give up on Gnome. If you are happy with Gnome 3, just junk this my e-mail. Anyway, I asked on this list an advice "from a person not ready to join ipad generation ;-)" what would be decent replacement of Gnome 3. Thanks to everybody for all your advices and suggestions!! I ended up switching from Gnome 3 to mate. I just added mate, leaving everything else as it was (i.e. starting gdm, etc.), and at X login screen I can choose mate. And I work on my workstation happily ever since. As (someone mentioned on this thread) mate is a fork of Gnome. Other options mentioned in advises were (and I tried them too, and each of them fills the bill, mate was just something I was most comfortable with): xfce fvwm i3 lxde KDE (which I disregarded; basically it is the new way of user interaction in Gnome 3 that I can not stand mostly; and KDE 4 is pretty much alike) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 17:11:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ACC141A for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward10l.mail.yandex.net (forward10l.mail.yandex.net [84.201.143.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Certum Level IV CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28D2666686 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward10l.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 37D60BA0E58; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:11:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B61AE6A00D0; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:11:03 +0300 (MSK) Received: from 46.38.36.198.tel.ru (46.38.36.198.tel.ru [46.38.36.198]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id nzcPCWz6d4-B3e0d6oD; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:11:03 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Message-ID: <54AC1727.4040906@passap.ru> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:11:03 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov Organization: =?UTF-8?B?0JfQkNCeICLQktCQ0KDQoiI=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> In-Reply-To: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:11:14 -0000 Hello and welcome! 06.01.2015 13:55, Lev пишет: > 2. I have a PCI-serial interface card that stopped booting the kernel. Times have passed since I see that a PCI card stalls a kernel. What does pressing "Ctrl-T" show? > It said > something like "not standard serial port". According to lspci on Linux this > is: > > NetMos Technology PCI 9845 Multi-I/O Controller Which version of FreeBSD did you try? I use CURRENT, but recall that a GENERIC kernel at some STABLE versions did not have the needed puc driver compiled in. So you may need to load puc device driver. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:03:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67D4EBD7 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.hemio.de (mail.hemio.de [176.9.40.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 960C28C for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bulldozer.local (p4FC24BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.194.75.196]) by mail.hemio.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DED4402 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:56:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:56:49 +0100 From: Roman Naumann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-ID: <20150106175649.GB973@bulldozer.local> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:03:49 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 04:32:02PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > it's probably not that wrong to perform a command construct > like "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies > via pkg where possible, and then use compiling from source > where neccessary. I usually go with "make missing | pkg install -Ay" which also marks packages as automatically installed, so that "pkg autoremove" can clean them if their reverse dependency is no longer needed. > After I had it, the next update deleted it along with other > packages. How to deal with the upgrades? If it's just one or a few packages, you can lock them with "pkg lock ". This might prevent upgrades, though, see "pkg help lock" for details. If you cannot upgrade any more, just use "pkg unlock ", upgrade, reinstall the package and lock it again after that. Best regards, Roman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:03:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBEA2D80 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BBF6264 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net with ESMTP id ci3j1p00G07iGuj01i3kKM; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:03:45 +0100 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A99A7123CF; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:03:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:03:43 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gregory Orange Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:03:55 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 09:35:27PM +0800, Gregory Orange wrote: > On 05/01/15 23:07, Warren Block wrote: > > There is also hw.vga.textmode=3D1, which causes vt to remain in > > text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can > > make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. >=20 > sysctl -a doesn't show this setting - is there a way to confirm this is= =20 > in place? It doesn't exist on my machine either (FreeBSD 10.1-STABLE amd64). I'm using vt(4). 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In-Reply-To: <54ABE49F.30201@calorieking.com> Message-ID: References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> <54ABE49F.30201@calorieking.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:44:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:04:08 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Gregory Orange wrote: > On 05/01/15 23:07, Warren Block wrote: >> There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in >> text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can >> make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. > > sysctl -a doesn't show this setting - is there a way to confirm this is in > place? Other than looking for that entry in /boot/loader.conf, not that I know. 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Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:01:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:01:50 +0100 From: Lev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-ID: <20150107010150.3f9628b0@jive> In-Reply-To: <54AC1727.4040906@passap.ru> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <54AC1727.4040906@passap.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 00:01:58 -0000 T24gVHVlLCAwNiBKYW4gMjAxNSAyMDoxMTowMyArMDMwMA0KQm9yaXMgU2Ftb3JvZG92IDxic2Ft QHBhc3NhcC5ydT4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gSGVsbG8gYW5kIHdlbGNvbWUhDQoNCjotKQ0KDQo+IFRp bWVzIGhhdmUgcGFzc2VkIHNpbmNlIEkgc2VlIHRoYXQgYSBQQ0kgY2FyZCBzdGFsbHMgYSBrZXJu ZWwuIFdoYXQNCj4gZG9lcyBwcmVzc2luZyAiQ3RybC1UIiBzaG93Pw0KDQpJIGRvbid0IGtub3cu IEkgcnVuIG5vdyBzb21lIHRlc3RzIG9uIG15IGN1cnJlbnQgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQsIHNvIEkgZG9u J3QNCndhbnQgdG8gcmVib290IG15IHN5c3RlbSwgYnV0IEkgZ3Vlc3MgdG9tb3JvdyBJIGNhbiB0 ZXN0IGl0IGFuZCBzZW5kIHRoZQ0KcmVzdWx0cy4NCiANCj4gPiBJdCBzYWlkDQo+ID4gc29tZXRo aW5nIGxpa2UgIm5vdCBzdGFuZGFyZCBzZXJpYWwgcG9ydCIuIEFjY29yZGluZyB0byBsc3BjaSBv bg0KPiA+IExpbnV4IHRoaXMgaXM6DQo+ID4gDQo+ID4gTmV0TW9zIFRlY2hub2xvZ3kgUENJIDk4 NDUgTXVsdGktSS9PIENvbnRyb2xsZXIgIA0KPiANCj4gV2hpY2ggdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBGcmVlQlNE IGRpZCB5b3UgdHJ5PyBJIHVzZSBDVVJSRU5ULCBidXQgcmVjYWxsIHRoYXQNCj4gYSBHRU5FUklD IGtlcm5lbCBhdCBzb21lIFNUQUJMRSB2ZXJzaW9ucyBkaWQgbm90IGhhdmUgdGhlIG5lZWRlZCBw dWMNCj4gZHJpdmVyIGNvbXBpbGVkIGluLiBTbyB5b3UgbWF5IG5lZWQgdG8gbG9hZCBwdWMgZGV2 aWNlIGRyaXZlci4NCg0KSXQgd2FzIHRoZSB2MTAuMQ0KDQpUaGFua3MgZm9yIHlvdXIgaW50ZXJl c3QgdG8gc29sdmUgb25lIG9mIG15IHByb2JsZW1zIHdpdGggRnJlZUJTRC4NCg0KTGV2ZW50ZQ0K DQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 01:26:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A881734 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.hemio.de (mail.hemio.de [176.9.40.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B3F21306 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 01:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bulldozer.local (p4FC24BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.194.75.196]) by mail.hemio.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02AB21BC for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 02:26:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 02:26:47 +0100 From: Roman Naumann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-ID: <20150107012647.GC973@bulldozer.local> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106175649.GB973@bulldozer.local> <20150107001205.2be44bae@jive> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150107001205.2be44bae@jive> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 01:26:53 -0000 On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 12:12:05AM +0100, Lev wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:56:49 +0100 > Roman Naumann wrote: > > > If it's just one or a few packages, you can lock them with > > "pkg lock ". This might prevent upgrades, though, > > see "pkg help lock" for details. > > If you cannot upgrade any more, just use "pkg unlock ", > > upgrade, reinstall the package and lock it again after that. > > Yes... but then I have to keep track what did I locked. No. Let the > computer work. I'm an electrical engineer, I want to design schematics, > PCBs, write software, and I don't want to work for a package management > system. I am sorry, but I do not see a more automated solution to this. If it is not available as a binary package, you have to install from ports or source. In either case, upgrading scilab's dependencies via binary packages might break the installation. Therefore the locking. If you use quarterly package updates you will have to type only few lines more every now and then. You do not need to keep track of what you locked either: "pkg query -e %k=1 %o" shows you. >From my experience, this is not easier in the Linux world if no binary package is available - but then again, you said there is one on your Linux distribution. :-) Best regards, Roman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 04:45:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF47463 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter02.peakinternet.com (filter02.peakinternet.com [207.55.16.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E19836436E for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([207.55.16.111]) by filter02.peakinternet.com ({c0e096ac-ab76-477d-8a9d-eab3e47a6d30}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPS id 20150107044159126 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 04:41:59 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61C81D4673 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54656D473C for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from zmail-mta01.peak.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmail-mta01.peak.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id g9tV1zTyN7_r for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org (mailproxy-lb-05.peak.org [207.55.17.95]) by zmail-mta01.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20446D4673 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 20:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from carlj by elk.localnet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8iRR-0005o6-7Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:41:57 -0800 From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> <54ABE49F.30201@calorieking.com> <87d26ro8jn.fsf@elk.localnet> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:41:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87d26ro8jn.fsf@elk.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:20:44 -0800") Message-ID: <877fwznqwa.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MAG-OUTBOUND: peakinternet.redcondor.net@207.55.16/22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 04:45:34 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > Warren Block writes: > >> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Gregory Orange wrote: >> >>> On 05/01/15 23:07, Warren Block wrote: >>>> There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in >>>> text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can >>>> make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. >>> >>> sysctl -a doesn't show this setting - is there a way to confirm this >>> is in place? >> >> Other than looking for that entry in /boot/loader.conf, not that I know. > > You can type 'kenv hw.vga.textmode' to see the current value. You can > also change it, but I don't know if that changes anything after boot. > Some kenv values seem to be in sysctl, but I don't understand the > relationship. I just noticed that I sent this to Warren instead of to the list. Sorry about that Warren. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 06:59:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23074427; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA42917F0; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id rd18so2206830iec.1; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:59:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KAuvntsWYH3XdqATXJ8yI8XYoLuSp0Gqlq/S3f+cdbk=; b=KP2F2FLeuk0EKW5wKPRPw2MNtV0h3nNSTpV4df6F70MJIBn5G4G7IXJzmG/oqtV38I sqbsrBPW0ESep49dVBZsszsMDwGBzfYb9KhwLEVFxNOUdUI3qmPVD750hZTdyE9zZN9k lZLqg+LSHjZAf+XmdjT63kArXxkLcKqsDK+ORD7Z/Fhg1ADIk+mqeXoDTD1gc3ZVplzt 7CD307Cp1aJKCfeU2bDarsc0Nl6p2qt7VfppRtbKLPNB9iR6qgS+DRN5y7ZaTjlZvfHG OVSlW3VEPj6OVoKsA+ZVO9IZOrej1Pipz3LGjhC/9s5ASg0LpdqaAf0wUgIF5GXC6Yu5 CtGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.205.197 with SMTP id fr5mr1709259icb.5.1420613963170; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:59:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.52.19 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:59:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9251A786-9105-4C09-B986-3D2B3ED74F31@firstyear.id.au> References: <9251A786-9105-4C09-B986-3D2B3ED74F31@firstyear.id.au> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:59:23 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SBwdGIYbjOUxc-Nl8t_HPGtOhm4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: Kevin Oberman To: William Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "gnome@freebsd.org" , a jenisch , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:59:24 -0000 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:34 AM, William wrote: > > > > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? > > > > Try the port for MATE: its a fork of gnome 2. A few little bits need some > tweaking but it works very well and is very stable. > > Sincerely > > William > > I'll second this. It is worth noting that Gnome3 was a massive change to Gnome2. It has been slightly less controversial than systemd, but only slightly. I ran into in on a Linux VM and, after playing with it for a pretty short time, ran as fast as I could. It was a pretty simple transition. Some of your old friends have been forked and renamed. Atril was evince, caja was nautilus, mate-terminal was gnome-terminal, engrampa was file-roller, pluma was gedit, etc. The mate home page lists most or all of these. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 07:32:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 476427A2 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 07:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from posti.ihme.org (posti.ihme.org [217.112.252.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0E981CE2 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 07:32:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ihme.org; s=ihme; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Date:Message-ID; bh=C9fZAcYRy77EpH+as2FVTsc+Cq0WxL1AIoSxXfMRb6c=; b=MRXkN5JiOPt1sFoocBPd8ILqsQHjRaFVn7cNpBmIzWqD0p4BSz2APPaQ1WTv546kUPRzIz5rXFEo9ypEiTvzj8+Zw3zfgK49uW80MIwOrvGohlzsTM7lG9BZUZx1Ma0+NvoG5rHRp/wrfw3ESIR44/3GfLPTim3eKouoxj9H6TM=; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=posti.ihme.org) by posti.ihme.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8l5s-0007Xb-HR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:31:52 +0200 Received: from 85.157.28.165 (SquirrelMail authenticated user midian@ihme.org) by posti.ihme.org with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:31:52 +0200 Message-ID: <5625d1cbdd8c77f70fb6515efdb5e587.squirrel@posti.ihme.org> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:31:52 +0200 Subject: Removing useless info from daily mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Markus_H=E4stbacka=22?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 07:32:03 -0000 Hello, I've been trying to reduce the incoming mail from my servers daily run. I've managed to configure periodic.conf in a way that when there's nothing wrong in the logs I get no mail. On 3 servers I still get mail with the following output: "hostname kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.r9GEufla 2015-01-06 03:01:08.000000000 +0200 +arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0800) (from 00:00:00:00:00:00 to 00:00:95:9a:78:99) ... ... -- End of security output --" There seems to be some brokenly configured hardware on our network which I can do nothing about. Now I'm trying to find a way to not get this mail. I edited /etc/periodic/security/700.kernelmsg to egrep the lines I don't want to have in my daily mail. But still I get the following: "hostname kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.rOXj53hS 2015-01-07 03:05:42.000000000 +0200 -- End of security output --" Is there a way to not get this message to dmesg (blocking it with ipfw or something?), or not to get the mail with only /tmp/security line? Thanks in advance, Markus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 08:35:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BE363A7 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 08:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D914B665B7 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 08:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp14-2-13-162.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.13.162]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2015 18:59:55 +1030 Message-ID: <54ACEE80.7050706@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:59:52 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mayuresh Kathe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> <20150105184133.GA1430@aio.kathe.in> <20150105184832.GA1590@aio.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20150105184832.GA1590@aio.kathe.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:35:05 -0000 On 06/01/2015 05:18, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:11:34AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:29:50PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 09:38:24PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>>> i had asked this question before and was advised to install >>>> the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development >>>> under freebsd. >>>> >>>> finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile >>>> the following simple objective-c program. >>>> >>>> #import >>>> >>>> int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) >>>> { >>>> @autoreleasepool { >>>> NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); >>>> } >>>> return 0; >>>> } >>>> >>>> the compiler options used were as below; >>>> clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 >>>> >>>> the compiler threw up the following error; >>>> main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found >>>> #import >>>> ^ >>>> 1 error generated. >>>> >>>> what can i do to get the above resolved? >>> >>> i found the location of that file to be at; >>> /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers/Foundation/Foundation.h >>> >>> should i be pointing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to that point too? >>> don't know if that would work, gnustep and obj-c do have their own >>> way of setting things up and getting things done. :) >> >> okay, got it to compile and work, find below contents of GNUmakefile; >> GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles >> include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make >> TOOL_NAME = mainapp >> mainapp_OBJC_FILES = main.m >> include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/tool.make >> >> put it in the same directory as main.m and just issue gmake. >> remember to edit config.make found at; >> /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/ >> to reflect the actual location of clang tools, i.e. /usr/bin/ > > also remember to set the environment variable GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_TOOLS to > point to /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Tools > > ~mayuresh You might want to look at /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Makefiles/GNUstep.csh or /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh They read in /usr/local/GNUstep/GNUstep.conf and ~/.GNUstep.conf for settings. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 08:36:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB246459 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 08:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B20665DD for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 08:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp14-2-13-162.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.13.162]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2015 19:06:11 +1030 Message-ID: <54ACEFF9.80500@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 19:06:09 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> <20150105184133.GA1430@aio.kathe.in> <20150105184832.GA1590@aio.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20150105184832.GA1590@aio.kathe.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:36:33 -0000 On 06/01/2015 05:18, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 12:11:34AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:29:50PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 09:38:24PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>>> i had asked this question before and was advised to install >>>> the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development >>>> under freebsd. >>>> >>>> finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile >>>> the following simple objective-c program. >>>> >>>> #import >>>> >>>> int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) >>>> { >>>> @autoreleasepool { >>>> NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); >>>> } >>>> return 0; >>>> } >>>> >>>> the compiler options used were as below; >>>> clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 >>>> >>>> the compiler threw up the following error; >>>> main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found >>>> #import >>>> ^ >>>> 1 error generated. >>>> >>>> what can i do to get the above resolved? >>> >>> i found the location of that file to be at; >>> /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers/Foundation/Foundation.h >>> >>> should i be pointing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to that point too? >>> don't know if that would work, gnustep and obj-c do have their own >>> way of setting things up and getting things done. :) >> >> okay, got it to compile and work, find below contents of GNUmakefile; >> GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES=/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles >> include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/common.make >> TOOL_NAME = mainapp >> mainapp_OBJC_FILES = main.m >> include $(GNUSTEP_MAKEFILES)/tool.make >> >> put it in the same directory as main.m and just issue gmake. >> remember to edit config.make found at; >> /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Makefiles/ >> to reflect the actual location of clang tools, i.e. /usr/bin/ > > also remember to set the environment variable GNUSTEP_SYSTEM_TOOLS to > point to /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Tools > > ~mayuresh You might want to look at /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Makefiles/GNUstep.csh or /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Makefiles/GNUstep.sh They read in /usr/local/GNUstep/GNUstep.conf and ~/.GNUstep.conf for settings. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 12:51:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01B14205 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 12:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 867DD66A69 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 12:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l18so1136743wgh.0 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 04:51:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=g6MCsZ+Z/tiacxYmS174VWtwSIC9A+RXqdFFPH33w7k=; b=IMu5nFrFVdkPmECHH85k+gyeF8VbJMSQeGHClY85A/OSghaM1vjYc2P1n2TtTmsrBu VSYMv8lmnL7otj+7gQtxJ/A5TcdzA99tsKq84EXQpsLktX25upD6DVr1t4K9XpARHtnK FJX6J7JAiU5wYsNJekU2EIgIaybOI8zO4RSrvx1HDdUX48ibzhKC74V3dhCD+7NA4gSv YXTJqiHtX+V1dtiyeg78bDgCh9tIXhMUE/s+Filw1glzB152Mfb3J+6PDlALETizhs7I WA8TWVVAvFsAnJ2qQaD0ZXYzE5VOsM2BIIx+lpVhpcJxIIbbel4d1xpPXLXJ6/Wq237L lLaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.187.235 with SMTP id fv11mr6202745wjc.16.1420635083660; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 04:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.241.132 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:51:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 20:51:23 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee From: Ben Woods To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Mike Clarke X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 12:51:26 -0000 > "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the pipe to pkg works): # make missing | pkg install Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... For more information see 'pkg help install'. -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 13:23:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A0647AF for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB2366FAF for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-61-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.61.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 519CF24DA6; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:23:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t07DNFlp002693; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:23:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:23:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ben Woods Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee Message-Id: <20150107142315.27d077f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:23:25 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 20:51:23 +0800, Ben Woods wrote: > > "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies > > This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the pipe > to pkg works): > > # make missing | pkg install > Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... > For more information see 'pkg help install'. The command is pseudo-code, I should have mentioned this explicitely. :-) It should illustrate that "make missing" will list the packages which are required as a dependency for an installation, and then continue to install those. After the dependencies are satisfied, "make install" can be run. The approach shown should minimize the amount of stuff that has to be built from source, so that a port which doesn't have a package available will try to build _only_ that port from source, not the (often overwhelming) pile of dependencies. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 13:26:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB85B88A for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C27166FFF for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id x13so1178945wgg.12 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 05:26:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GOfVuIqWK4//uV8qd8+MxnMR7stc/pPydPEI2U2cLB0=; b=UbR4HYI8+Azs26y9X9SHaIZCniL0tG9hz9wZCfM+6dQMc/XerTZfK91GaVNau2L86t fwATHbbpu6B2t6hVyDuyz3KP7OygJuCoDd2f0L9Hz889PQZWjZGGmLsKF53k21dwnHCy tVwmUQpaZUbdqxrGORw+3tV1g/tOm7aJ5RXegfiewwJSAmlrGJv8zTnIGxWtW1yw5Opp 2uwS3PXKYvkF70HGhOk3Q0oOg/jriizvWp7F6Z4b7hiHgVBNFmJRT1vCJw6TCbmViGT7 YGALhJEeM0ivLw7GB+TimjU5DKiegcxlTxaAUznD+jnmxAhujl/t6la+qOVd5g4WREox +ugQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.193.4 with SMTP id hk4mr6578299wjc.38.1420637202731; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 05:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.241.132 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 05:26:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150107142315.27d077f3.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150107142315.27d077f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:26:42 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee From: Ben Woods To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:26:44 -0000 > > > "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies > > > > This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the pipe > > to pkg works): > > > > # make missing | pkg install > > Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... > > For more information see 'pkg help install'. > > The command is pseudo-code, I should have mentioned > this explicitely. :-) Well it can actually work if you use xargs: # make missing | xargs pkg install -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 14:10:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1B92AD for ; 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Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.101.133 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:10:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150107001205.2be44bae@jive> References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106175649.GB973@bulldozer.local> <20150107001205.2be44bae@jive> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 08:10:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee From: Adam Vande More To: Lev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:10:14 -0000 On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Lev wrote: > Yes... but then I have to keep track what did I locked. No, actually the pkg management system tracks it. Kinda the whole point of the locking mechanism. > No. Let the > computer work. I'm an electrical engineer, I want to design schematics, > PCBs, write software, and I don't want to work for a package management > system. > When you find the tool that works without using said tool, let us know. Thanks, -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 15:36:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 591F2417 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mgaterz1.oekb.co.at", Issuer "Symantec Class 3 Secure Server CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7F31563 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.64]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 07 Jan 2015 16:35:07 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by internal-relay-exchhubcas1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.210.2; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t07FZ541026945; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t07FZ5TA026944; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: Valeri Galtsev Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way Message-ID: <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: a jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:36:22 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:12:11AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > ... > If you are happy with Gnome 3, just junk this > my e-mail. Anyway, I asked on this list an advice "from a person not ready > to join ipad generation ;-)" what would be decent replacement of Gnome 3. > > Thanks to everybody for all your advices and suggestions!! > > I ended up switching from Gnome 3 to mate. I just added mate, leaving > everything else as it was (i.e. starting gdm, etc.), and at X login screen > I can choose mate. And I work on my workstation happily ever since. As > (someone mentioned on this thread) mate is a fork of Gnome. Hi Valeri et al, Thanks much for the info wrt Gnome3. Taking a look at the screenshots for Gnome3 vs. mate the decision was clear for me: Mate. I did a "pkg install mate" today and after upgrading the rest of my packages to latest versions mate is running and from what I've seen so far it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. You were right - it's a desktop environment for working not an eye candy ;-) Thanks again to you all for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 15:49:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7BD6EC for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D990176B for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-61-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.61.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8214F3CD97; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:49:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t07FnYTJ003271; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:49:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:49:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ewald Jenisch Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way Message-Id: <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:49:44 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Thanks much for the info wrt Gnome3. Taking a look at the screenshots > for Gnome3 vs. mate the decision was clear for me: Mate. > > I did a "pkg install mate" today and after upgrading the rest of my > packages to latest versions mate is running and from what I've seen so > far it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. You were right > - it's a desktop environment for working not an eye candy ;-) I'd like to ask two questions: 1. Is automounting working, either with HAL/DBUS or with automounter from ports? 2. Is there support for german language? If both can be answered with "yes", it's probably a good choice to recommend the use of Mate for german users who want something stable and usable. While I have been "solving" this problem with a "normal" Gnome 2 installation in the past, it feels buggy and tends to dissolve over time... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 16:50:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58550749 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05D14662AF for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t07GoGsn011189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:50:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t07GoGbA011186; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:50:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:50:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Carl Johnson Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? In-Reply-To: <877fwznqwa.fsf@elk.localnet> Message-ID: References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> <54ABE49F.30201@calorieking.com> <87d26ro8jn.fsf@elk.localnet> <877fwznqwa.fsf@elk.localnet> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:50:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 16:50:25 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Carl Johnson wrote: > Carl Johnson writes: > >> Warren Block writes: >> >>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Gregory Orange wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/01/15 23:07, Warren Block wrote: >>>>> There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in >>>>> text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can >>>>> make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. >>>> >>>> sysctl -a doesn't show this setting - is there a way to confirm this >>>> is in place? >>> >>> Other than looking for that entry in /boot/loader.conf, not that I know. >> >> You can type 'kenv hw.vga.textmode' to see the current value. You can >> also change it, but I don't know if that changes anything after boot. >> Some kenv values seem to be in sysctl, but I don't understand the >> relationship. > > I just noticed that I sent this to Warren instead of to the list. Sorry > about that Warren. I didn't notice, but somehow now I feel less special. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 16:53:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A717B839 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F12166328 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t07Grmb6012076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:53:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t07Grm4t012069; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:53:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:53:48 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ben Woods Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150107142315.27d077f3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:53:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 16:53:53 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Ben Woods wrote: >>>> "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies >>> >>> This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the > pipe >>> to pkg works): >>> >>> # make missing | pkg install >>> Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... >>> For more information see 'pkg help install'. >> >> The command is pseudo-code, I should have mentioned >> this explicitely. :-) > > > Well it can actually work if you use xargs: > # make missing | xargs pkg install Or backticks, probably: # pkg install `make missing` From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 17:16:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3053D3E for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 17:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1CCA6672B for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 17:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id va8so4128630obc.3 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vZJIY9NkCH6oqyU7ZxEjwwGAIII4ck+LP+zocoplG80=; b=GUKAwIP+AA8itppw42wLvy7MCIMh8MoewSvchgIRZricIKROYuJK+1m5F3jO7Snb86 gBwakegSQi+ArBaQLosCg4meI3VRL9W5ja9pXl/RGGWaoIJVaCtYT/LYV3xhehnTXPwM WtIZFtQAGR8hfzvqHhKlWu3udpubsIqFptNFDvSN217N9jLzVYOOTdoizvEWz9+VwkUF m8EkcwhySeOzDO8SiyT0AtRI94DrqX2jLKA2Oy0JpW8R8MkotHnwT21Q2VJvVNwFiK6X G9cBL0LPQdxtORvmozDp+0bWbupownApqjgGjpbANXmXoruyWpJqNVXTrYyL9gQk1Xwy 4ucg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNE/e+b/IMoJ3KK4iFSTddpGDWCRbP/U8O+Ek3FBA6ID5qMEX6jJBOkvtkE90mWyb/1g4Y X-Received: by 10.182.81.195 with SMTP id c3mr2766527oby.60.1420650958117; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (76-252-236-89.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net. 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(VPS 150107-0, 01/06/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:16:05 -0000 On 1/7/2015 8:53 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2015, Ben Woods wrote: > >>>>> "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies >>>> >>>> This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the >> pipe >>>> to pkg works): >>>> >>>> # make missing | pkg install >>>> Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... >>>> For more information see 'pkg help install'. >>> >>> The command is pseudo-code, I should have mentioned >>> this explicitely. :-) >> >> >> Well it can actually work if you use xargs: >> # make missing | xargs pkg install > > Or backticks, probably: > # pkg install `make missing` I use this for pkg updates. portsnap fetch update && pkg upgrade && pkg version -vIL= The last one tells m which are still out of date, because a pkg hasnt been built yet. I can then either leave it and wait, or use portupgrade pkgname to finish it up, depending. Brian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 21:28:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2B30E24 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.firstyear.id.au (2001-44b8-016a-0004-0000-0000-0000-0001.static.ipv6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:16a:4::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DF5211 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.133.20.164] (unknown [1.125.24.172]) by mail.firstyear.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A768941C9642; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:58:34 +1030 (ACDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way From: William X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B435) In-Reply-To: <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:58:33 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lyra.ipa.blackhats.net.au Cc: Ewald Jenisch , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:28:40 -0000 > On 8 Jan 2015, at 02:19, Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: >> Thanks much for the info wrt Gnome3. Taking a look at the screenshots >> for Gnome3 vs. mate the decision was clear for me: Mate. >>=20 >> I did a "pkg install mate" today and after upgrading the rest of my >> packages to latest versions mate is running and from what I've seen so >> far it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. You were right >> - it's a desktop environment for working not an eye candy ;-) >=20 > I'd like to ask two questions: >=20 > 1. Is automounting working, either with HAL/DBUS or > with automounter from ports? >=20 > 2. Is there support for german language? >=20 > If both can be answered with "yes", it's probably a good > choice to recommend the use of Mate for german users who > want something stable and usable. While I have been "solving" > this problem with a "normal" Gnome 2 installation in the > past, it feels buggy and tends to dissolve over time... :-( Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with changing keyboard lay= outs on login that as a dvorak user, I am trying to solve.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 21:36:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D6F61B5 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30DD6353 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-137.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t07La26M031165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:36:03 -0600 Message-ID: <54ADA839.10404@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:42:17 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: online oddity .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:36:10 -0000 .... I sporadically visit http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to see what they think my IP address is, to see how tor is working (quite well, thank you). Today, it said I was at 209.239.123.90, & said it was out of Zurich. I did a 'whois 209.239.123.90' from the CLI & it said: NetRange: 209.239.112.0 - 209.239.127.255 CIDR: 209.239.112.0/20 NetName: HSI-2 NetHandle: NET-209-239-112-0-1 Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) NetType: Direct Allocation OriginAS: AS30083 Organization: Hosting Solutions International, Inc. (SERVE-6) RegDate: 2008-07-10 Updated: 2013-03-18 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-209-239-112-0-1 OrgName: Hosting Solutions International, Inc. OrgId: SERVE-6 Address: 210 North Tucker Blvd. Address: Suite 910 City: Saint Louis StateProv: MO PostalCode: 63101 Country: US RegDate: 2003-04-15 Updated: 2014-11-13 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/SERVE-6 i.e. St.Louis MO, in the USA :-) .... Who's right ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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[173.73.156.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm2442969qar.41.2015.01.07.15.23.23 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:23:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54ADBFEA.7070708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:23:22 -0500 From: zep User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: online oddity .... References: <54ADA839.10404@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54ADA839.10404@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 23:23:26 -0000 On 01/07/2015 04:42 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I sporadically visit http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to see what > they think my IP address is, to see how tor is working (quite well, > thank you). Today, it said I was at 209.239.123.90, & said it was out > of Zurich. I did a 'whois 209.239.123.90' from the CLI & it said: > > > NetRange: 209.239.112.0 - 209.239.127.255 > CIDR: 209.239.112.0/20 > NetName: HSI-2 > NetHandle: NET-209-239-112-0-1 > Parent: NET209 (NET-209-0-0-0-0) > NetType: Direct Allocation > OriginAS: AS30083 > Organization: Hosting Solutions International, Inc. (SERVE-6) > RegDate: 2008-07-10 > Updated: 2013-03-18 > Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-209-239-112-0-1 > > OrgName: Hosting Solutions International, Inc. > OrgId: SERVE-6 > Address: 210 North Tucker Blvd. > Address: Suite 910 > City: Saint Louis > StateProv: MO > PostalCode: 63101 > Country: US > RegDate: 2003-04-15 > Updated: 2014-11-13 > Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/SERVE-6 > > > i.e. St.Louis MO, in the USA :-) .... Who's right ? > > I'd suggest that just because a company has its headquarters (or a presence) in the US, it may well have points of presence in many parts of the world. a bit of googling comes back to reveal they have/had a headquarters in kirkland, wa and this article: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/09/16/german-hoster-leas= es-space-in-st-louis/ a traceroute doesn't really give any better hints as to the physical location of the address. given what I've been able to find, I'd _guess_ that it's a german based company, arin assigned the block to them and then they moved the space over to a new DC in st. louis, but the ip2location DB hasn't been updated that whatsmyipaddress uses. =20 it's all a guess, really. actually ip2location says it's in st. louis, too. I'd think it is in st. louis. --=20 public gpg key id: AE60F64C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 01:08:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECBD6C36 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 01:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82A59C05 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 01:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com (no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t07DRXat005392 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:27:34 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk t07DRXat005392 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1420637254; bh=sE4OgAQ7XdZOIxShAxxISSuNrONNT+vAvALlNt86BcQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Wed,=2007=20Jan=202015=2013:27:18=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Questions=20from=20a=20Linux=20re fugee|References:=20<20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive>=20=20<2015010 6132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de>=20<20150106124739.a336caccfdef6 5863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk>=20<20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edv ax.de>=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=Q7449UE2O6I4D3pzGEvJ4C9MX+DYEprUSMDYFESP15LzcX0V9l8/QbWL/JNFL6kWQ jt1ggLWpZAEPQxJ2oSuCPDJeh/ml1muI7lukoKdPe2cLbyOEWq40w/JtikRDppkUt4 BESAgTOE4FF6wAz2DaXAmIgwGRrMaeKa/G8i/Akc= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host no-reverse-dns.metronet-uk.com [85.199.232.226] (may be forged) claimed to be ox-dell39.ox.adestra.com Message-ID: <54AD3436.5000604@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:27:18 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions from a Linux refugee References: <20150106115503.4870ab2e@jive> <20150106132934.7b2ba08c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150106124739.a336caccfdef65863f461f7c@milibyte.co.uk> <20150106163202.f07341af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qe5UuN439xOKMK0X3QVp2Q9A37A678XsN" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:08:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qe5UuN439xOKMK0X3QVp2Q9A37A678XsN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/07/15 12:51, Ben Woods wrote: >> "make missing | pkg install" to get the dependencies >=20 > This command doesn't work for me with pkgng 1.4.4 (I don't think the pi= pe > to pkg works): >=20 > # make missing | pkg install > Usage: pkg install [-AfInFMqRUy] [-r reponame] [-Cgix] ... > For more information see 'pkg help install'. Try: # make missing | xargs pkg install pkg(8) doesn't read package names etc. from stdin in general -- the one exception is pkg-annotate(8). So use xargs to turn that pipeline into a command line. 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References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:27:06 -0000 On 05/01/15 16:35, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 05/01/2015 02:33, Gregory Orange wrote: >> I think this is the problem I'm facing - can you clarify and assist if >> possible? I have a Haswell i3 which runs X fine with vesa, but when I >> quit X, the machine crashes hard and requires holding the power button. > > The problem with sc and the new X system is that on return from X to > console mode the sc driver can't regain control of the screen to display > anything. It doesn't crash, but you get a black screen so you might > think it's not responding. In fact, if you (carefully) type "shutdown -r > now" (or any other command) it will respond. If that's what's happening, > switching to the vt driver will help. If you're genuinely getting a > crash though it's not an sc versus vt problem. I gave it a try just in case, but sadly, it appears I am getting a genuine crash. It did help on another older machine I'm tinkering with, but I'm still stuck here. PC-BSD (installed last night to try) has the same problem, so I'll give Ubuntu a try and see that works. Any pointers here on how to troubleshoot this would be most welcome. I can't find anything in logs, and the machine just freezes hard when I quit X or press Ctrl-Alt-[1-7]. TIA, Greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 02:44:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2B9AB02 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 02:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 303B97AE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 02:44:49 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:ac61:b1f:80a0:4ec6] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 503192 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:44:40 +0000 Message-ID: <54ADE0EE.2090002@radel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:44:14 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: online oddity .... References: <54ADA839.10404@hiwaay.net> <54ADBFEA.7070708@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54ADBFEA.7070708@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030302070606030709030901" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 02:44:50 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030302070606030709030901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/7/15 6:23 PM, zep wrote: > actually ip2location says it's in st. louis, too. I'd think it is in=20 st. louis. 6 xe-10-0-1.edge2.washington4.level3.net (4.53.115.133) 10.420 ms xe-11-1-2.edge2.washington4.level3.net (4.53.115.117) 10.549 ms xe-5-0-0.edge2.washington4.level3.net (4.53.114.29) 10.548 ms 7 ae-5-5.car2.stlouis1.level3.net (4.69.201.2) 32.324 ms 30.589 ms = 32.513 ms 8 4.28.92.190 (4.28.92.190) 54.423 ms 45.302 ms 46.338 ms 9 pacific1416.serverprofi24.eu (209.239.123.90) 46.576 ms 46.623=20 ms 45.754 ms From here traceroute is pretty conclusive that they hook into Level3 in = St. Louis. The use of an .eu name for reverse DNS would indicate=20 involvement of a European company, or at least one which does=20 significant business in Europe. Or they're just working extra hard to obscure things for you Tor users...= =2E --Jon Radel jon@radel.com P.S. I was even bored enough to trace from my Zurich equipment just in=20 case they were doing something really weird like anycasting. 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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:18:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: William Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way Message-Id: <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:18:54 -0000 On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:58:33 +1030, William wrote: > > > > On 8 Jan 2015, at 02:19, Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > >> Thanks much for the info wrt Gnome3. Taking a look at the screenshots > >> for Gnome3 vs. mate the decision was clear for me: Mate. > >> > >> I did a "pkg install mate" today and after upgrading the rest of my > >> packages to latest versions mate is running and from what I've seen so > >> far it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. You were right > >> - it's a desktop environment for working not an eye candy ;-) > > > > I'd like to ask two questions: > > > > 1. Is automounting working, either with HAL/DBUS or > > with automounter from ports? > > > > 2. Is there support for german language? > > > > If both can be answered with "yes", it's probably a good > > choice to recommend the use of Mate for german users who > > want something stable and usable. While I have been "solving" > > this problem with a "normal" Gnome 2 installation in the > > past, it feels buggy and tends to dissolve over time... :-( > > Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with > changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, > I am trying to solve. Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis (especially useful for programmable keyboards). By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a dependency? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[137.222.187.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i15sm5663646wjq.22.2015.01.08.03.01.32 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 03:01:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 03:01:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:01:31 GMT Received: from mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t08B1Vkd010624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:01:32 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t08B1V2a010623 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:01:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld in 45 min! Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:01:52 -0000 I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay: FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class CPU) real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s) It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min. That's really fast! I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds. Time to move on perhaps... Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 11:43:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66A699B3 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 220F22EE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-61-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.61.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B60C3CDDB; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:43:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t08BhJX1002423; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:43:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:43:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: William B Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way Message-Id: <20150108124319.15349b9c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:43:24 -0000 On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 20:06:31 +1030, William B wrote: > Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes the layout > regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" to set > the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to debug it > though work allowing. Yes, that's actually really a massive usability problem when a desktop environment "captures" a system setting and doesn't implement the substitute properly... > Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. It's not just X. Many desktop environments and their components did require HAL as a dependency. Of course it was possible to build X without HAL support and then compile all other programs without HAL support. But having this situation as the default for binary packages really is an improvement. I just feared that Mate would include something that still requires HAL... > According to the > docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is not built > with hal support, so it's not needed. Great! Finally someone took the garbage out. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 12:47:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AEA5EF3 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S4.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s4.hotmail.com [65.55.111.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CCD3B56 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU436-SMTP59 ([65.55.111.136]) by BLU004-OMC4S4.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 8 Jan 2015 04:46:32 -0800 X-TMN: [mg0DV3s6XQAYqpVwPf3eFkGbgJ2hdYwi] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 18:16:22 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running resolvconf from script References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2015 12:46:30.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[202D1B40:01D02B41] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 12:47:39 -0000 Hi, I am on FreeBSD-10.1-i386. For some reason, DNS information on my system sometimes 'evaporates' and I am left with no network access. To restore internet, I have to execute the following sequentially (re0 is my ethernet card and /etc/nameservers.list is a file I created which contains the list of nameservers) : ifconfig re0 down ifconfig re0 up resolvconf -d re0 resolvconf -a re0 < /etc/nameservers.list While the sequence works well and restores internet, I would ideally like to move the commands into a Bash shell script. But executing the resolvconf commands from a script results in an error message "No resolv.conf for re0" (or something to that effect) and 'resolvconf -l re0' returns an empty/incomplete list, with no internet working yet. So is there any way I can automate the work via a script ? Thanks and Regards, Manish Jain +91-98995-82709 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 13:51:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFAC8F69 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8628022C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t08Dpnwh014275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:51:50 -0600 Message-ID: <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:58:04 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:51:52 -0000 On 01/08/15 03:36, William B wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > >>> Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with >>> changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, >>> I am trying to solve. >> Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change >> during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to >> set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis >> (especially useful for programmable keyboards). >> >> By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a >> dependency? > Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes the layout > regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" to set > the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to debug it > though work allowing. > > Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. According to the > docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is not built > with hal support, so it's not needed. > > > - -- > Sincerely, > > William Brown > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUrk+fAAoJEO/EFteBqAmaez0P/1uyCbUT7DHltyaRPas7gj2K > xC1LYXr8Au1xsBW/JrRRDXeC7ACMEym3oTTqmTYjRkDUh5tuH0seJUQoIneVj12V > 9mpdLFhS95enlRJfCzne9HhqzRrX4ut+GdPtdLDhFbHAZva+y21wVqOKASTziq6O > THShEQRFNq3C39gkBeR/51HFXw9GrxO5EWjZZG/sUsSWQ7py/p/4249uREMX/j5I > BSn4QYvSma8ShF4KZ3u+4ddw+pRI6KhURu/nfIyJeCHkm0vxLRPqdlBL8viAqbLx > VlGs5Kot0Cg4l227VkZbf9gEEZ3RBJDZWIJB7NFQu0crXT38zUfwjDRAP9Qt5mpp > yA4B/GyyJFsiW/HE5TPQ2PdzonYL59CAqq0jw7suxGsrKClpjgOdDrzeFCuHDPCi > CIdh/T4/1m4Kza37iEeRH1ZyBqnLxbBIxR+eM2Vx7c4zMWKNZKMWjOr1QM9a62ev > zR8ifFfJwO7VOzooYtY+jdb6oMLgGxR95XmvTxlDVYKA85p74r1UF35ibniV2qeN > y4YtRbnEQwAI2Uou23T61pR6K8539MarSz5U/c9Ievd7s4hQOnOYaX7QBVzEj6TG > lp/ryeojJFXdtk6UtsGEnEpHcEwxwj0wlBUqCTCxxQonadF/cgNP9S4cPynlOggh > 5V+40TeB6w8RJXfyz2DQ > =cuPG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What versions of xorg-server & FreeBSD does that ('current' xorg pkg doesn't need HAL) refer to ? TIA & have a happy new year :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 13:53:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA9746E for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E52D23F for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t08DrMkl020359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Jan 2015 06:53:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t08DrMYw020356; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 06:53:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 06:53:22 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: buildworld in 45 min! In-Reply-To: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:53:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:53:27 -0000 On Thu, 8 Jan 2015, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay: > > FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 > CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class CPU) > real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) > avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB) > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s) > > It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min. > That's really fast! > I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds. > Time to move on perhaps... Or add -DNO_CLEAN. How much that can improve things depends on how long ago the system was last built, but usually saves half to two thirds of the build time for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:03:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F28D21C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBFB9366 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t08E3F5Z072738; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:03:15 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:03:15 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:03:25 -0000 On 08/01/2015 13:58, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 01/08/15 03:36, William B wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>>> Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with >>>> changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, >>>> I am trying to solve. >>> Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change >>> during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to >>> set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis >>> (especially useful for programmable keyboards). >>> >>> By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a >>> dependency? >> Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes >> the layout >> regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" >> to set >> the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to debug it >> though work allowing. >> >> Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. >> According to the >> docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is >> not built >> with hal support, so it's not needed. >> >> >> - -- Sincerely, >> >> William Brown >> [noise cut] > > What versions of xorg-server & FreeBSD does that ('current' xorg pkg > doesn't need HAL) refer to ? TIA & have a happy new year :-) .... Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING and you'll find 20141219: AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. All ports which provide X.Org drivers must be updated simultaneously, i.e. x11-drivers/xf86-*, emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions, net/tigervnc, etc. The input device autodetection backend is switched from HAL to devd. If you configure your keyboard layout through HAL .fdi files, you need to migrate this configuration to plain X.Org configuration files. Up-to-date instructions and a description of the changes brought by this update are detailed in a blog post: http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-ready/ -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:46:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D95BCA5 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x234.google.com (mail-yk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36ACAA0A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 9so1387832ykp.11 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xIywkW/uXlK5FDI/f0G8JmL1ZU8bvTmOAbCZEckO/X8=; b=TW9cOefUckf8v8ZGgW/6TCTLerWkfSxu7QhqRCC+D3jqt7V4p4drHbj0qJGe8y3ZlC gokmWFoamyQkY71yQ2Vas3TNphomVf/wgqvEfNFsxOCgmhS9BRU7bU8s12kYH+tHge39 Jrioe6tKPG+t1HxXi3p8Q5Gq5iMzDWEV/l4d7aRyTTj1ssOuNcUJByy9Tnq02kloC3wG VPnVvqnqL1gKWggXfwpyefT6R3qPYejldxHE7X9kKEEh6yH/EzfFVVxk2T6jhRKL7ZUN DcTGwKxprVJOzbGJEAclWNuuDxhaNgW5w6GN3L4LtQ1+7Vm9+hXNdvvqQ09HMdyI2D8L 3o6Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.96.196 with SMTP id r44mr6563585yhf.187.1420728398382; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.188.144 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:46:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: buildworld in 45 min! From: krad To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:46:39 -0000 ccache as well, make sure you have loads of ram and run on zfs and/or have the whole lot on the memory fs or ssd... On 8 January 2015 at 13:53, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2015, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay: >> >> FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >> CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class CPU) >> real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) >> avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB) >> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs >> FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s) >> >> It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min. >> That's really fast! >> I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds. >> Time to move on perhaps... >> > > Or add -DNO_CLEAN. How much that can improve things depends on how long > ago the system was last built, but usually saves half to two thirds of the > build time for me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:47:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 666A1D42 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eu1sys200aog104.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog104.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8AF8A1E for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob104.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKVK6YaROwITo6OfkL4qLQfFBl66J1paRM@postini.com; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:47:29 UTC Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x12so2989039wgg.11 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to; bh=KmYlCZ+ccrvQoOHAgY4MFh+ts20YzJrqonE4/NxJwUg=; b=KM0sBvYdBwssLwyJK13algn+RCxOpGWNSH5dil5JlEWOiwQ5HuTyoHvftMvUkViSqP fPPAkqTSaqmR4H0vL8CPa+x5C5WdaZGt7rhx+ErHQdUBU0vxXZ0JzjDQ5wM5Xz6MbypO n2G48w8f0TT8d4lPf8wlTPq4XlnSuD5W4ayqkPxwuj9qPiYnI1+KB1Tde8/HJE5Jr/BW fqhNAjzeJMd/+9eW/IamDyKg5mtZoPSFr4E6BOa1ZTD1uWqAW+HwQujC6st+Rr57Naur xDGcXqN4cgB11OE4ejYK8m/oYq+sbYsrgjmCEhtgAkrvwXAQP1wfYdTxr2B2qeRZptjn 7yGA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmou5UbKgBH1A2+8PwmKVGn4hFX+f5qeSrsVkjlbwiLW3AAsNl6/O1+gma0ByVqAAWmVcPlbWVcY7Z1fpX2RHxpw0GDn8QpN8fR/bLnJLVN6id8ad61yRirs6GACzFg4XsLIGtVm8kEs5/vaQBMHIiyD7BWVazdHBMQ4L30Wto5raDt4/I= X-Received: by 10.194.58.19 with SMTP id m19mr20280326wjq.52.1420728425779; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.58.19 with SMTP id m19mr20280311wjq.52.1420728425662; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gf6sm6432422wjc.11.2015.01.08.06.47.04 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:47:02 GMT Received: from mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t08El2hv011508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:47:02 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t08El2VV011503 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:47:02 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201501081447.t08El2VV011503@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: fibre disk detected before local disk Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:47:30 -0000 I've a server with a local disk da0 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus3 target 2 lun 0 I boot from da0p2. If I connect a fibre disk array, it seems the disk array disks are detected prior to the local mpt disk, and one of the remote fibre disks is named da0. Then I cannot boot from da0p2. Is there a kernel setting telling the kernel to probe "local" disks before "remote" disks? Is options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI designed for this? Thansk Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:59:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48AA5222 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F6BEB3A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t08ExBY9011023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:59:12 -0600 Message-ID: <54AE9CB6.9080406@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:05:26 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:59:14 -0000 On 01/08/15 08:03, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 08/01/2015 13:58, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 01/08/15 03:36, William B wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>>> Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with >>>>> changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, >>>>> I am trying to solve. >>>> Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change >>>> during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to >>>> set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis >>>> (especially useful for programmable keyboards). >>>> >>>> By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a >>>> dependency? >>> Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes >>> the layout >>> regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" >>> to set >>> the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to >>> debug it >>> though work allowing. >>> >>> Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. >>> According to the >>> docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is >>> not built >>> with hal support, so it's not needed. >>> >>> >>> - -- Sincerely, >>> >>> William Brown >>> > [noise cut] >> >> What versions of xorg-server & FreeBSD does that ('current' xorg pkg >> doesn't need HAL) refer to ? TIA & have a happy new year :-) .... > > Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING and you'll find > > 20141219: > AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports > AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org > > The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. All > ports which provide X.Org drivers must be updated simultaneously, i.e. > x11-drivers/xf86-*, emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions, net/tigervnc, > etc. > > The input device autodetection backend is switched from HAL to devd. > If you configure your keyboard layout through HAL .fdi files, you need > to migrate this configuration to plain X.Org configuration files. > > Up-to-date instructions and a description of the changes brought by > this update are detailed in a blog post: > > > http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-ready/ > Thanks, I had read the /usr/ports/UPDATING entry, however, this A.M. I did a 'pkg version -vRL=' & there was no mention of xorg-server needing upgrading. I am on xorg-server-1.12.4_9,1 now, FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p5, that's why I was asking .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 16:37:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD3FE473 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.physics.umn.edu (smtp.spa.umn.edu [128.101.220.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ADBB7C8 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-66-41-25-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([66.41.25.68] helo=[192.168.0.137]) by mail.physics.umn.edu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9FTr-00068B-TU; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:58:39 -0600 Message-ID: <54AEA932.8030308@physics.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:58:42 -0600 From: Graham Allan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fibre disk detected before local disk References: <201501081447.t08El2VV011503@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <201501081447.t08El2VV011503@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:37:47 -0000 Yes, we've run into this on various Dell servers where an addin fiber HBA would become the "first controller" ahead of the internal drives. You can hard-wire the controllers in /boot/device.hints For example if your FC HBA is some qlogic (isp) device you can force your onboard mpt to be scsi bus 0 with: hint.scbus.0.at="mpt0" We also had cases where the FC HBA was also mpt (I don't use these any more, isp works much better!), so needed to use something like this to force onboard to bus 0: hint.scbus.0.at="mpt2" Hope this helps, Graham On 1/8/2015 8:47 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've a server with a local disk > > da0 at mpt0 bus 0 scbus3 target 2 lun 0 > > I boot from da0p2. > > If I connect a fibre disk array, it seems > the disk array disks are detected prior to > the local mpt disk, and one of the remote > fibre disks is named da0. Then I cannot boot > from da0p2. > > Is there a kernel setting telling the kernel > to probe "local" disks before "remote" disks? > > Is > > options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI > > designed for this? > > Thansk > > Anton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 16:38:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5AA0507 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3287C7D9 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob101.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKVK6ycxE9qkifDMxuXxZ3FW3aqfyEGwPo@postini.com; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:38:39 UTC Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id n12so3600092wgh.8 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:cc:reply-to :in-reply-to; bh=BTPBZc5wROAGPfs7nNskHnv0FBZ76Cu+2NGKfXoODW8=; b=FzaNnLkRSg5dNnIU7L4Ov/uOZ3nd2UcI/8zNl+dG6XoANqN6r+W3fonUdAsii2D0MD NVnsrWXh25zrjkKI9Z/gHzuAADRBMjNAxCW/0iTDtjSJ4unVkouwM37fJo8JuSZRKoOC tAHVNpJCCZDJ3LD0hoqkDzOod+eQMNgk1BnjUzhQIQdXLLuQcrxO4qxrM1QuAo2771ZV LIXjq7AHUXKSgT+axA4N+hI7xCsYafWwn2HqGyNfoLrnHPCNq3SCEm6lmTXTN6VpP02V 60H3TQ2fQlkA4IBhaWnCIMWFwD9asVIqCl2AI6hFQipsH0JgDGMVs9ktAgpn0fUqkS1K NGMw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkhkWb0WAKH6Onx4Z3adcxfy/7Os4Kun/33AmQ395Q5ESKj9RCu0KtDWPsWhVHdlM96k3kAJ/3PXNsp8KxgRlN7kM0CgoSPJyo+cQ0nN+S6HXq4dJSdWhRu3ZdoosQ1GnkeRLFEnY9IPi2RPlRRW42cBMbovyg+iSxZqLf5MizRaTSyayQ= X-Received: by 10.194.235.193 with SMTP id uo1mr20675391wjc.105.1420735091249; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.194.235.193 with SMTP id uo1mr20675371wjc.105.1420735091126; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q10sm6766891wjx.34.2015.01.08.08.38.10 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:38:08 GMT Received: from mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t08Gc9br089938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:38:09 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t08Gc8vw089937; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:38:08 GMT (envelope-from mexas) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201501081638.t08Gc8vw089937@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> To: allan@physics.umn.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED [WAS: Re: fibre disk detected before local disk] Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <54AEA932.8030308@physics.umn.edu> Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:38:39 -0000 >From allan@physics.umn.edu Thu Jan 8 16:04:19 2015 > >Yes, we've run into this on various Dell servers where an addin fiber >HBA would become the "first controller" ahead of the internal drives. >You can hard-wire the controllers in /boot/device.hints > >For example if your FC HBA is some qlogic (isp) device you can force >your onboard mpt to be scsi bus 0 with: > >hint.scbus.0.at="mpt0" Yes, this is my situation precisely - mpt and isp. Your hint solved the problem. Thank you Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 17:10:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BBF7CD3 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F916AFF for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 17:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id gq1so9090594obb.9 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:10:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HAgpiWtXIvqclpD6OFtpk53Hk6Dp8FhByn5KFmWfQ3U=; b=DXEaPhiuAPjZK2TZUHtKvdbkl0Oor7nYVLI4KrnYW8uQPa/fNiNRVWdxlg6XaoGRqY R8u3fF1DicZ01lbt1lLzILl/5FO9209jzaVKRlLAl7B0lj2eiN/BYOeNd33nPeIM+ddp sNwSnYDAWaHaWWS9n8q7IbJpVbhCrdkltMivATfZxXqkPxRWcNWG25A8bKg1S+elTFXy mZTy4FeZ3khDdggnzE20yyLUF1l5/oveeELwdfCPKEK3rT+xCo8b9qYwvctEQxxup10M 7xVA+cMECvhSYAg+JhqdDlpEz/rH4blBOtPT100YUzDGF9nE0o6AmdVcq134uszHsNZX AakQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk19bD1CbYPyL69fF4CtdBsNX4vim49uzW4mAwXcW2Th8yiP2+iFxvr5EtXsdiuwOyJPH2a X-Received: by 10.60.84.132 with SMTP id z4mr6408556oey.30.1420737030823; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (76-252-236-89.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net. [76.252.236.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m32sm3070237oik.15.2015.01.08.09.10.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:10:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54AEBA07.80606@brianwhalen.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:10:31 -0800 From: brian User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld in 45 min! References: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150108-0, 01/08/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:10:38 -0000 ccache doesnt work with clang, at not not by default, though I have seen some try to do it via symlinking. Brian On 1/8/2015 6:46 AM, krad wrote: > ccache as well, make sure you have loads of ram and run on zfs and/or have > the whole lot on the memory fs or ssd... > > On 8 January 2015 at 13:53, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Thu, 8 Jan 2015, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> >> I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay: >>> FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>> CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class CPU) >>> real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) >>> avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB) >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s) >>> >>> It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min. >>> That's really fast! >>> I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds. >>> Time to move on perhaps... >>> >> Or add -DNO_CLEAN. How much that can improve things depends on how long >> ago the system was last built, but usually saves half to two thirds of the >> build time for me. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 21:22:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61D4F9CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f49.google.com (mail-yh0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 284DDB93 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f49.google.com with SMTP id f10so2437037yha.8 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6H+KKumlQ7+IrjFGRf14HcuRhY7jPSyxHuVbRV0Cc1s=; b=MVLEAa4ylqoA1G9yFFkH86BFhA6W8JU/UNDjwWsgdL7+Z+BgcP5rvCHLUrK1Oss9oZ Eqht2tX87X9/8V7aHMRwkHPLT/+1cNfU+wUWE31JobSoYk6h0udGcu3bDhRkXjOmFdpG D3WD4cIBVQUCcvFK2ruqqhUibFUWg7N3EbeusgV1SNCC1dBkanIB+6gGy5UL8J2vWKbW OON4TLf9AVz0Ltoqx6TNipObh8Yng787tK1yZotudhhUSlAJbkmq4df3Fvih96X91DlH urMI8fyHmzfg4EIecqfJ07m22AU3e7yNj0OUxUFssNaaojhWn6IMFzD1/oczdkYz0xOk U4Kw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkXmdaaHM5nB4bwzC2IMXZvyRXbClachOoSDEdvYB1VUBk6X3kzFX7Nri9RahFFO85jBVm1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.40.116 with SMTP id e80mr8673491yhb.186.1420752134694; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.88.69 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [81.217.14.197] Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 22:22:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Installing/updating packages - change to different mirror server? From: a jenisch To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:22:21 -0000 Hi, I'm running into a problem when trying to install/update packages on my 10.1 System: My system always tries to connect to "pkg0.ydx.freebsd.org". However whatever I try to install/update the transfer rate is down to 20 to 50kBit/s (!) and finally completely dies. On the other hand one of my colleagues has a similar (also 10.1) system at home and never experienced issues like these. Looking at the connections his system opens when running package installs/updates it turned out that his system connects to "pkg0.bme.freebsd.org" even though we live in the same city with only a few blocks in between. So here are my questions: o) Is there any way to override the decision my system makes on which package mirror it fetches packages from? o) How does FreeBSD decide on the update mirror in the first place? I wonder why my system consistently tries to connect to "pkg0.ydx..." whereas the system of my colleague always connects to "pkg0.bme.freebsd.org". 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This apparently was delivered from domain sina.com.cn Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX level? Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. Valeri On 01/08/15 17:19, jzsf@vip.sina.com wrote: > 已收到您的来信! > 谢谢! > 荆州盛发 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 00:04:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67F1776E for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22d.google.com (mail-qc0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BD79E86 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id i17so5619895qcy.4 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:04:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YwJM6xxVYqdem28EXZ+pseID2r8MYcCWnEfA/WEi9wc=; b=zqdnlFl8Em4288dJRUsY2JRvllgbJjegfbMjbNsnY5wbMmwBOEHptmIHTTHzoV7yxe DiOKUyXEpEzghkAqK7cyJxr7NwnhQYNP1V/MIyhewb4paRWB33H+s7EwOC0UpGmjGOjD GUGZtg0SXA2/oNIZrteoDIL9W/tdMuJ6HCy+OBRhpzqCuKCANU9/0StqSZEd7Z7v9ZmM Npi9r8pe4MNRDy0rdJ8D2+0cb0Lrz16GEP2YocxiOF4ZQFLxqoEs7YumlcxheUsjzoQ/ kBL+COSlEa0u6znlC+MXzd/rk8vAFNJ+/gWa2mVblhuSMT3WQSRgmnHf7qClkwMo1wo6 NPyw== X-Received: by 10.224.95.7 with SMTP id b7mr21577608qan.70.1420761842270; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smaug.zep.net (pool-173-73-156-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net. [173.73.156.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t9sm5474762qak.14.2015.01.08.16.04.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:04:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:03:59 -0500 From: zep User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaUGxzIHJlbW92ZSBtZSBJIGhhdmUgYmU=?= =?UTF-8?B?ZW4gaGFja2VkISEh?= References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:04:03 -0000 On 01/08/2015 06:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new > thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently was > delivered from domain > > sina.com.cn > > Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX > level? > > Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. > > Valeri > I suspect it's a vacation auto responder, although I have no idea how to translate the message. it's poor form, but I'm not sure it rises to the level of being a good reason to block a person's entire domain. although if it keeps going on, I could well see asking the list admins to remove/block the person doing all the sending. -- public gpg key id: AE60F64C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 00:18:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 534F6B53 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta010.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3B21F90 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta010.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957A16F9D0E for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:12:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD53384082 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2925938407C for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <54AF1CDD.5020400@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:12:13 +0000 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 自动回复:Pls remove me I have been hacked!!! References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> X-MDF-HostID: 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:18:51 -0000 On 09/01/2015 00:03, zep wrote: > On 01/08/2015 06:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently was >> delivered from domain >> >> sina.com.cn >> >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX >> level? >> >> Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. >> >> Valeri >> > I suspect it's a vacation auto responder, although I have no idea how to > translate the message. > it's poor form, but I'm not sure it rises to the level of being a good > reason to block a person's entire domain. although if it keeps going > on, I could well see asking the list admins to remove/block the person > doing all the sending. > It says, "Have received your letter! Thank you! Jingzhou Sheng" according to Google translate. Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 01:21:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAFE3B87 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C544E8C8 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:21:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=NJ8Yrx41QEeRxpV12m6Tlmu8qkN8jTTmWkiu5VTTE/Y=; b=lpZihxDEnooTsnpFsP1nSrE8hKoVzmiLPW4IqSHUo8h0JIYeShEhmuqanCBtdJOdg8vOcz8UgqrMiHYAzA85j4eabBlMN++sxK7mcLmrRAXyKG0Moh6mdC2ZW/P+zOwW0rauQ5SdA1Lwm3ouJqh8pzM+Htr+uLuINHks3p7I+xs=; Received: from [114.124.36.105] (port=65265 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9OGf-000lUw-Hl; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 18:21:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:21:32 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Valeri Galtsev Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3F=3F=3F=3F=3FPls?= remove me I have been hacked!!! Message-ID: <20150109092132.2f7f131e@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:21:46 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:34:14 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new > thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently > was delivered from domain > this is an old thing. It comes and goes. > sina.com.cn > > Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX > level? > It is not that easy. The sender addresses change very often. > Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. Isn't this real life? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 01:48:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D8A137; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2513EA9A; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF132.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.188.241.50]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t091kgoD015047; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:46:43 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t091lpji028841; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 02:47:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t091lQEJ019271; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 02:47:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201501090147.t091lQEJ019271@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Steve Burton Subject: Re: h *e From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:12:13 +0000." <54AF1CDD.5020400@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 02:47:26 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:48:16 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Steve Burton > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 00:12:13 +0000 Steve Burton wrote: > (ee$ o<Pls remove me I have been hacked!!! > References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> > <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> > In-Reply-To: <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> > X-MDF-HostID: 4 > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 > X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 > Precedence: list > List-Id: User questions > List-Unsubscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Subscribe: , > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" > Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On 09/01/2015 00:03, zep wrote: > > On 01/08/2015 06:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new > >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently was > >> delivered from domain > >> > >> sina.com.cn > >> > >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX > >> level? > >> > >> Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. > >> > >> Valeri > >> > > I suspect it's a vacation auto responder, although I have no idea how to > > translate the message. > > it's poor form, but I'm not sure it rises to the level of being a good > > reason to block a person's entire domain. although if it keeps going > > on, I could well see asking the list admins to remove/block the person > > doing all the sending. > > > It says, > > "Have received your letter! > Thank you! > Jingzhou Sheng" > > according to Google translate. > > Steve. I added CC: re. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2015-January/263508.html from jzsf at vip.sina.com Good idea Steve to point a translator at it, so URLs for postmaster@ : OK: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-questions%2F2015-January%2F263508.html&sandbox=1 Fails: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=zh-CHS&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-questions%2F2015-January%2F263508.html OK with mouse copy of text into box: http://www.bing.com/translator/ If it's an auto responder, then presumably the sender is subscribed (one can't assume that for all posts to questions@ ) so postmaster@ probably also has the choise of forcibly un-subscribing the subscriber. Un-subscribing could be less drastic than putting an eternal block on an address or domain, but perhaps more work, if postmaster@ finds the polluter is also subscribed on other lists. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Indent previous with "> ". Interleave reply paragraphs like a play script. Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative. Practice French & support democracy ? Buy on 14 Jan http://www.charliehebdo.fr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 03:33:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF40DEF4 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830A797 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8FD8CCB8CA1; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:33:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:33:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20713.128.135.70.2.1420774393.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20150109092132.2f7f131e@X220.alogt.com> References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20150109092132.2f7f131e@X220.alogt.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:33:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: ?????Pls remove me I have been hacked!!! From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Erich Dollansky" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 03:33:19 -0000 On Thu, January 8, 2015 7:21 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:34:14 -0600 > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently >> was delivered from domain >> > this is an old thing. It comes and goes. > >> sina.com.cn >> >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX >> level? >> > It is not that easy. The sender addresses change very often. > That is what I assumed from the very beginning. With these things on my servers I usually do this: I find out which domain sender's MX serves. Then I send complaint to abuse@that.domain.com No one usually gets back to me (at least from that geoip location no one ever did). Then I send similar complaint appended with note that abise@ never came back to me to postmaster@that.domain.com. After that I set my MX to reject mail with message that that domain didn't respond abuse complaint. [Did I miss something decent sysadmin should do in the case?] But, of course, freebsd.org has quite different audience from a couple of Departments of some university... Valeri >> Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. > > Isn't this real life? > > Erich ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 04:07:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C890467; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 04:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-x235.google.com (mail-qg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 566F5A1A; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 04:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id l89so6523139qgf.12; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:07:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=8xyiPf28MQthUIh6ye4YbgAjo1i1XUMv9djfvSTdc6g=; b=BxL7mFw/IA/KzXDRGzY2N6GU/+EacpQNbmUx90EqXC4eEn61FkOkZ45kExQMSKIIU1 ZfrVdJXZ9kjkxM83YyAnk7vVRnGqOX1Eo84EkZridhTUETEmdNZPdSEDxh07S+6sQZtx ND7qrdRc6dtAznoB0GS5N7zgHX0Ii0rUCnFHL8yC3roWV3zL3eIAmMpSBhezUvhCHHNY JEGMGzrM6bYCfzPA3S8vgL2UYxHUpPpJ1Rp0wCbvCUxpJN4t18+q6FEGSrIogJs/01jM ZAGyCj1rF/zv63oBzvlzvu5Pr3fa2EQ0G/Gzp1bcHa52o63fMWn3Pm43KX0mGe4NGI6O HNdQ== X-Received: by 10.229.126.129 with SMTP id c1mr22998228qcs.12.1420776452392; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.6.123] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k102sm5967509qgd.7.2015.01.08.20.07.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sergio Lenzi X-Google-Original-From: Sergio Lenzi Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way To: William In-Reply-To: <9251A786-9105-4C09-B986-3D2B3ED74F31@firstyear.id.au> References: <9251A786-9105-4C09-B986-3D2B3ED74F31@firstyear.id.au> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 02:07:27 -0200 Message-ID: <1420776447.59884.26.camel@lenzinote.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "gnome@freebsd.org" , a jenisch , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 04:07:33 -0000 Em Ter, 2015-01-06 às 22:04 +1030, William escreveu: > > > > o) AFAIK gnome3 is a supported desktop environment under FreeBSD (?). > > Are there, besides KDE which I don't like for personal reasons, any > > reasonable alternatives providing similar features like Gnome? > > > I built a gnome232 port for FreeBSD 10 amd64 it is all the gnome (1034) ports with xorg 1.12 if you dare to use it, you must delete all your packages first (pkg delete -fay) Than.... 1) cd /tmp 2) fetch http://gnome232.k1.com.br/bootstrap/pkg-static 3) fetch http://gnome232.k1.com.br/bootstrap/gnome232.conf 4) REMOVE (or save elsewhere the file FreeBSD.conf from the directory /etc/pkg 5) DELETE ALL PACKAGES ..... pkg delete -fay 6) chmod 755 /tmp/pkg-static 7) /tmp/pkg-static install -y pkg 8) pkg install -y gnome2 If you need, you can install libreoffice (pkg install -y libreoffice). it will download about 1GB of the full and reliable gnome 2.3.2 with gdm, inkscape, evolution, firefox, Imagemagick, gimp,.... Edit the file /usr/local/etc/gdm/custom.conf and change from "0=Inactive" to "#0=inactive" CREATE A USER with group=wheel and password as gdm DOES NOT LOG IN WITH ROOT our UID=0 DONE... reboot the machine and log in in the gdm choose your country (language) in the login screen... Enjoy... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 06:11:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0528F1B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 06:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A1C860A for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 06:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.3] (helo=unixarea.DDR.dd) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Smr-0008BA-85; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 07:11:09 +0100 Received: from unixarea.DDR.dd (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t096B7ow001729; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:11:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3/Submit) id t096B6OG001728; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:11:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: unixarea.DDR.dd: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 07:11:06 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Valeri Galtsev Subject: Re: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaUGw=?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= remove me I have been hacked!!! Message-ID: <20150109061106.GA1687@unixarea.DDR.dd> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Valeri Galtsev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:11:20 -0000 El día Thursday, January 08, 2015 a las 05:34:14PM -0600, Valeri Galtsev escribió: > Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new > thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently was > delivered from domain > > sina.com.cn $ trs '已收到您的来信!谢谢! 荆州盛发' Have received your letter! Thank you! Jingzhou Sheng i.e. it is just a poor configured vacation reply system. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 1989-2014: The Wall was torn down so that we go to war together again. El Muro ha sido derribado para que nos unimos en ir a la guerra otra vez. Diese Grenze wurde aufgehoben damit wir gemeinsam wieder in den Krieg ziehen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 09:01:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C05F5825 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22f.google.com (mail-yk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ADD180B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 200so3484415ykr.6 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:01:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=isjfZPZOkAUp4Q3vBGdP9UIoocTBc2wNSgoezTMws/E=; b=bgZSENTFcuRqxK0ur1Dp6CvU3k/u+UELH2bleXyjlPGTU7I0ybi6oGsw3HYGKXvlua 8sJ3BUE9eMauvwUE3KT9cXLTxHw7NE5Lgun2NgYTvDUeaJE3HGhN3dQPW9nTpIawlQWM /i4gsHZtJFVqix3fbAguzxVW7BIu251mkB60VQAzgdxkE+JJztbv9+KpbMd25i1LdjKj xPyhpFKiahP4V+4VGjBa3Xdpe8JvPmvbXR1g611gJFetbLZhxsgHLBMOoHefu1LGsiAF rmz2MUYb2hXN/tI/CkERbeHDJWJh2g6sxWtHEGAMJzSiCoykw/m3fJLBXA5lCKvANwRd Y6ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.168.2 with SMTP id k2mr11705771ykd.62.1420794116609; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.188.144 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 01:01:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54AEBA07.80606@brianwhalen.net> References: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> <54AEBA07.80606@brianwhalen.net> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:01:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: buildworld in 45 min! From: krad To: brian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 09:01:57 -0000 yeah it does just fine, ive been using it for a few years with clang On 8 January 2015 at 17:10, brian wrote: > ccache doesnt work with clang, at not not by default, though I have seen > some try to do it via symlinking. > > Brian > > > On 1/8/2015 6:46 AM, krad wrote: > >> ccache as well, make sure you have loads of ram and run on zfs and/or have >> the whole lot on the memory fs or ssd... >> >> On 8 January 2015 at 13:53, Warren Block wrote: >> >> On Thu, 8 Jan 2015, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> >>> I got a Sun Fire X4100 for 60 pounds off ebay: >>> >>>> FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>> CPU: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220 (2792.64-MHz K8-class CPU) >>>> real memory = 17179869184 (16384 MB) >>>> avail memory = 16595623936 (15826 MB) >>>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs >>>> FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 2 core(s) >>>> >>>> It does buildworld -j8 in under 45 min. >>>> That's really fast! >>>> I'm used to 4 hour ia64 builds. >>>> Time to move on perhaps... >>>> >>>> Or add -DNO_CLEAN. How much that can improve things depends on how >>> long >>> ago the system was last built, but usually saves half to two thirds of >>> the >>> build time for me. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 14:20:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 049A818B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A98F9B53 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-49.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t09EJrGG005976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 08:19:54 -0600 Message-ID: <54AFE500.8030503@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:26:08 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaUGxzIHJlbW92ZSBtZSBJIGhhdmUgYmU=?= =?UTF-8?B?ZW4gaGFja2VkISEh?= References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:20:02 -0000 On 01/08/15 18:03, zep wrote: > On 01/08/2015 06:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently was >> delivered from domain >> >> sina.com.cn >> >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX >> level? >> >> Sorry about sending spam in name of fighting spam. >> >> Valeri >> > I suspect it's a vacation auto responder, although I have no idea how to > translate the message. > it's poor form, but I'm not sure it rises to the level of being a good > reason to block a person's entire domain. although if it keeps going > on, I could well see asking the list admins to remove/block the person > doing all the sending. > My ISP has some very effective SPAM filtering & I am catching a bunch of this crap there, besides whatever slithers through to my inbox .... I 2nd the motion on a domain block, or at least a blacklist of this address .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 14:37:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1A0463 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omi.kylos.pl (omi.kylos.pl [193.107.88.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85909D3F for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52895 helo=omi.kylos.pl) by omi.kylos.pl with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Zes-003AqS-Kp for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:31:22 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.152] ([87.205.67.92] helo=[192.168.1.152]) by omi.kylos.pl with ESMTPS(AES128-SHA) (ASSP 1.9.9); 9 Jan 2015 14:31:22 +0100 Message-ID: <54AFE53C.5050508@e-safeguard.pl> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:27:08 +0100 From: Patryk Hanckowiak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: custom full disk encryption with ZFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omi.kylos.pl X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - e-safeguard.pl X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: omi.kylos.pl: authenticated_id: patryk.hanckowiak@e-safeguard.pl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:37:31 -0000 Hello. The installer seems to allow for an encrypted setup using the whole disk ... Or can you just use the installer to install FreeBSD on selected partitions of the disk with the ZFS encrypted setup? Is there a resource that shows how to create a custom full disk encryption with ZFS, something similar to LVM on LUKS in Linux? Regards, Patryk Hanckowiak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 15:08:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4A57C08; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B07EEB4; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail [192.168.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t09F70mT002495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:07:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 09:07:00 -0600 From: dweimer To: Patryk Hanckowiak Subject: Re: custom full disk encryption with ZFS Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <54AFE53C.5050508@e-safeguard.pl> References: <54AFE53C.5050508@e-safeguard.pl> Message-ID: <93bcfc622d17ac4759e07c43f7633809@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1-beta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:08:14 -0000 On 01/09/2015 8:27 am, Patryk Hanckowiak wrote: > Hello. > The installer seems to allow for an encrypted setup using the whole > disk ... Or can you just use the installer to install FreeBSD on > selected partitions of the disk with the ZFS encrypted setup? Is there > a resource that shows how to create a custom full disk encryption with > ZFS, something similar to LVM on LUKS in Linux? > > Regards, > Patryk Hanckowiak > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" FreeBSD requires part of the boot to not be encrypted, this can be done using a USB thumb drive if you absolutely must have the full hard disk encrypted. The USB drive or unencrypted part the hard drive needs to have a copy of /boot portion of the installation this doesn't contain any user data so its fairly safe if someone sees it. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 19:27:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8ABBA3E for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp124.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (smtp124.ord1c.emailsrvr.com [108.166.43.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FBAC127 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0F761800FB; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:18:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp16.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rhavenn-AT-rhavenn.net) with ESMTPSA id 15FA0180157; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 14:18:51 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: rhavenn@rhavenn.net Received: from vash.rhavenn.local (209-112-171-194.static.acsalaska.net [209.112.171.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.4.2); Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:18:52 GMT Received: from localhost (4000@localhost [local]); by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 7e14e143; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 10:18:50 -0900 (AKST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 10:18:50 -0900 From: Henrik Hudson To: Da Rock Subject: Re: ZFS replacing drive issues Message-ID: <20150109191850.GA58984@vash.rhavenn.local> References: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <54A9E3CC.1010009@hiwaay.net> <54AB25A7.4040901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54AB25A7.4040901@herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:27:07 -0000 On Tue, 06 Jan 2015, Da Rock wrote: > On 05/01/2015 11:07, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 01/04/15 18:25, Da Rock wrote: > >> I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm > >> having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. > >> > >> The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace > >> '. This normally just works, and I > >> have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. > >> > >> After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and > >> that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. > >> > >> No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in > >> a good state. > >> > >> I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. > >> > >> Cheers > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > Someone posted a similar problem a few weeks ago; rebooting fixed it > > for them (as opposed to trying to get zfs to fix itself w/ management > > commands), might try that if feasible .... $0.02, no more,l no less .... > > > Sorry, that didn't work unfortunately. I had to wait a bit until I could > do it between it trying to resilver and workload. It came online at > first, but then went back to removed when I checked again later. > > Any other diags I can do? I've already run smartctl on all the drives > (5hrs+) and they've come back clean. There's not much to go on in the > logs either. Do a small number of drives just naturally error when > placed in a raid or something? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" a) try a 'zpool clear' to perhaps force it to clear errors, but to be safe I'd still do "c" below. b) Did you physically remove the old drive and replace it and then run a zpool replace? Did the devices have the same device ID or did you use GPT ids? c) If it's a mirror try just removing the device, zpool remove pool device and then re-attaching it via zpool attach. henrik -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net ----------------------------------------- "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 21:44:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9A402B3 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mario.brtsvcs.net (mario.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:a400::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CBDA1FA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-71-59-211-166.hsd1.or.comcast.net [71.59.211.166]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mario.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF7712C160E; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:2580:181:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:2580:181:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07CCEE30; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54B04BA3.6070104@bluerosetech.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 13:44:03 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld in 45 min! References: <201501081101.t08B1V2a010623@mech-as221.men.bris.ac.uk> <54AEBA07.80606@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: <54AEBA07.80606@brianwhalen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:44:14 -0000 On 1/8/2015 9:10 AM, brian wrote: > ccache doesnt work with clang, at not not by default, though I have seen > some try to do it via symlinking. I just went and checked to make sure it wasn't suddenly 2005! Ah... buildworld tuning. How I really don't miss you. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 21:59:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4B90796 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3A8D376 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 21:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ::ffff:184.23.143.12 ([184.23.143.12]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 13:59:44 -0800 Message-ID: <54B04F50.3040905@holgerdanske.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 13:59:44 -0800 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 10.1 i386 encrypted mirrored ZFS root on USB flash drives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:59:46 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a computer with an Intel D945GNT motherboard, Intel Celeron D 2.53 GHz processor, and 1.5 GB of memory. I am trying to install FreeBSD 10.1 i386 with encrypted mirrored ZFS root on two USB flash drives, rather than hard disk/ solid state drives. I have installed FreeBSD via FreeBSD-10.1-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img as follows: "Welcome to FreeBSD" -- choose "1. Boot Multi User". "Welcome" -- choose "Install". "Keymap Selection" -- choose ">>> Continue with default keymap". "Set Hostname" -- enter "cd2533". "Distribution Select" -- accept default selections: games ports "Partitioning" -- select "Auto (ZFS)": "Pool Type/Disks" -- mirror: 2 disks: mirror da1 SanDisk Ultra Fit da2 SanDisk Ultra Fit "Pool Name" -- "cd2533". "Force 4K Sectors" -- "YES". "Encrypt Disks" -- "YES". "Partition Scheme" -- "GPT". "Swap Size" -- "1g". "Mirror Swap" -- "YES". "Encrypt Swap" -- "YES". Choose ">>> Install". "Last Chance" -- choose "YES". Enter and confirm passphrase. Enter and confirm root password. "Network Configuration": Select "em0" "IPv4" -- "YES". "DHCP" -- "YES". "IPv6" -- "NO". "Resolver Configuration" "Search" -- holgerdamske.com "IPv4 DNS 1" -- 192.168.1.1 "IPv4 DNS 2" -- "Set Local or UTC Clock" -- "NO". "Time Zone Selector" -- "America North and South" -- "United "States" -- "Pacific Time". Confirm "PST". "System Configuration" -- select: sshd ntpd powerd dumpdev "Add User Accounts" -- "NO". "Final Configuration" -- "Exit". "Manual Configuration" -- "NO". "Complete" -- "Reboot". When I power up the machine, it does not boot from the flash drives, even if I manually select either of the flash drives via F10 POST boot menu. I have configured my BIOS CMOS settings to boot from the flash drives and to boot from USB devices first. Is it possible to install and run FreeBSD from flash drives? Any suggestions? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 23:38:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01DDC411 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88AD6EC0 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a1so10654348wgh.9 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2FhiCAvYZNCuMEmv2lIcYtX4S8QNfB+FOuPbCPbgLIA=; b=MGuO8snEnzFGKSEXTgvWGISfqUzFoREUaZxbR4PL9mfkJ6d8nayifqueryuvTawuog /aev4Wz/30b4q4DVue6kk4P9Dc3Y4WZBUm6soS8D8IKXtq6A/ihmEFLWWQmEXO7dwbpn djkAp5b7U4wL2mPdLOdstsOeLl8kQytlTSGuQlkcktnMN3JNJYuTaUYxZEbSoFEOk9qi LGLHd8Sf6BqbFAYdkWi51K/eylsmwGNKR8QyOydhrIXzaHVDK8D+iKEfwAOO8zXVl3ol rgoOhri4flNNSCEpPm4y+5m7KbwxAFL0d9vZRmXbYmq1SvDkpWlRNfHbbw4IyznmF2Sn S1+g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.76.239 with SMTP id n15mr9563264wiw.66.1420846685591; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.241.132 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54AFE53C.5050508@e-safeguard.pl> References: <54AFE53C.5050508@e-safeguard.pl> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:38:05 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: custom full disk encryption with ZFS From: Ben Woods To: Patryk Hanckowiak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 23:38:08 -0000 > Is there a resource that shows how to create a custom full disk encryption > with ZFS, something similar to LVM on LUKS in Linux? > I use geli(8), which is documented here (scroll down past the alternative gdbe option unless that interests you): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/disks-encrypting.html As per the previous response, you will need to keep /boot unencrypted to allow freebsd to boot, but the rest of the disk can be encrypted with geli, and zfs running on top of geli. I actually use it slightly differently. Since I don't care about encrypting my operating system files, i keep my data storage on a separate partition or disk, which is encrypted with geli with zfs on top. -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 00:42:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F88BE04 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x230.google.com (mail-pd0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0607875E for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id r10so20265825pdi.7 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:42:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1Okd54T0MhvKAIj9MmatyAfrpOnJOrEBOFbs3oIcASc=; b=T5sj3f5xfHqtwE0T+v6uIs+XLCb6jiKIbLjzGWf5vPbC1cqli6FA7b3bStXvN1xOdy kE15l0kjSwb+XYHVUnLaH7CeyUFzE2zkFP7dTUbFK32xjc6E31WdaI/NFsEj3/sDuq3F yVmImFXe4AqwA2HUgNGD6CmGiaiVggzNlILS2IeIhaChvQQcKvHQSHf+h1k4RXjy5j+X hQBOCiUJEsY5TWiuYB0HMlGC7A8+rPWeuA8k+w/myxrNBmsoxg6NyBNulRomiP2Jj3i2 Y5QqpmuAR/FnIgJWjrnD1lWZ94z8UgC/+/oZXkqhuQeV5b6SnU6V9n6sD3a/dDO6cuPz Wasw== X-Received: by 10.66.253.197 with SMTP id ac5mr27178420pad.152.1420850537408; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([209.12.167.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gk2sm8088977pbc.14.2015.01.09.16.42.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:42:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:42:12 -0800 From: Jungle Boogie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Unix copy to different groups help request Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:42:18 -0000 Hello Friends, This just in: computers always do what you tell them to do! Now you great people: please teach me so I can tell my computer what I'm trying to do. Objective: cp file to /usr/local/www/data for lighttpd without using sudo all the time. Problem: It seems like I have the right group everywhere: file, /usr/local /usr/local/www and I'm in that group, too. User: jboogie % id uid=1007(jboogie) gid=1008(jboogie) groups=1008(jboogie),0(wheel),5(operator),80(www),1002(usb) % ls -l /usr/local/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jan 5 17:19 www % sudo chown www:www /usr/local/www % ls -l /usr/local drwxr-xr-x 4 www www 512 Jan 5 17:19 www % ls -l /usr/local/www/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 www www 512 Jan 9 14:54 data % ls -l vanmorrison.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie jboogie 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied % sudo chgrp www vanmorrison.txt % ls -l total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied % chmod a+rw vanmorrison.txt lyander-fbsd% ls -l total 4 -rw-rw-rw- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 00:44:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D4CAEB7 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 271D0773 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so15714411obc.1 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c+wsqlnh5fvD5tCAVRJNVrwdI0rbcCMu9BKRYpCgPHk=; b=XmzG61xZvBQCi56WzpiiXJ6CEbQJ8WUUPaq4FaTQjT51LZyt1naZ0fXmS6g6cJR8tI tlW/dbdrzJ7iZxQDjqZs2XTfOgC+sNhNA1hsdEJTmT1TtR0H3ozUou1f7vgIGU5NWVRh 5h7LGIfL4HuvOH3YkzzJTFzWVRk9GUpmn8KLPPAW0u+T0MrO5D6v38iQGJaGe/Z0OCtz 2DlRsL5SknMCgcSQySJJL1aRoEeW6uKzZrxrjoHSpOjWGxAGTjk7T4yyg+REFj1GxXbH AY/K7y8xGwZT23d9vQpvoc1qrnHgknPGhrJqnmEcNWNi/CYavr95hHLnDgLbA0FAfkT5 5aHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmyNzdIqDnBGIH/KM87ZFqjea41Uo5BkBU23W3M20nmoiUGT1Y3komMq0OQ7Sa09Y6AcmfK MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.73.6 with SMTP id w6mr10481540oia.37.1420850666694; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.172.78 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:44:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request From: Michael Sierchio To: Jungle Boogie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:44:34 -0000 man chown especially '-R' sudo chown -R www:www /usr/local/www On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: > Hello Friends, > > This just in: computers always do what you tell them to do! > > Now you great people: please teach me so I can tell my computer what I'm > trying to do. > > Objective: cp file to /usr/local/www/data for lighttpd without using sudo > all the time. > > Problem: It seems like I have the right group everywhere: file, /usr/local > /usr/local/www and I'm in that group, too. > > > User: jboogie > % id > uid=1007(jboogie) gid=1008(jboogie) groups=1008(jboogie),0(wheel), > 5(operator),80(www),1002(usb) > > > % ls -l /usr/local/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % sudo chown www:www /usr/local/www > > % ls -l /usr/local > drwxr-xr-x 4 www www 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % ls -l /usr/local/www/ > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 www www 512 Jan 9 14:54 data > > > > % ls -l vanmorrison.txt > -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie jboogie 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > % sudo chgrp www vanmorrison.txt > > % ls -l > total 4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > % chmod a+rw vanmorrison.txt > lyander-fbsd% ls -l > total 4 > -rw-rw-rw- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > > -- > inum: 883510009027723 > sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info > xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 00:55:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35E951C0 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2B485D for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:55:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=710d7t03O+VmRv6lhSvQ9yS4ITuaBRdoG+nD9RA4uck=; b=uzg3NyOL/GOIGShIFWFA/CRSHQCe8al/Khl3g67/CYv3uF10vBsvYzbukBPcOTO/xjJWPkWwVlF6ejzikA4ShYbkoB30HIyyUutZtKM8v6z/DaBXfG6F2dDd6EpC4MYCHcJt+34Bt9wrZnaKky0qwhy+RjbQgFMefwTl4NBYLG8=; Received: from [114.121.160.153] (port=49858 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9kKu-004K9U-Uz; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:55:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 08:55:23 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3F=3F=3F=3F=3FPls?= remove me I have been hacked!!! Message-ID: <20150110085523.607259f3@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <54AFE500.8030503@hiwaay.net> References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54AF1AEF.5080807@gmail.com> <54AFE500.8030503@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:55:31 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:26:08 -0600 "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > My ISP has some very effective SPAM filtering & I am catching a bunch > of this crap there, besides whatever slithers through to my > inbox .... I 2nd the motion on a domain block, or at least a > blacklist of this address .... > this is just a plain waste of time. This address will change within a few days. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 00:56:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A02C9256 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A33886F for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id rd3so21494258pab.7 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NgsDxqyZfGL/iUnEQl+686a8pJl2ubOYrC1mYAmpq/0=; b=zXd3CF4AcGzQJjTThNGAwuhCjilOPWH9yXvMzFpaYwgDkakBKmcDSRPfxsDc1jhsz4 u+GoCHQwk1WbPSLtfxHIHbN6zAPW+APk186mkylJuy8AEVt9tf0Zh9B3brsu2a0xwEeF VLHlXTsFfxsJiYkmyApxNP4SYHBjLAYvoPDivrs4ZiF9pVoZh6RprMVTQ8DO3PEt1v2P WrRUxmgDQq2PmDXnuo2y5Q2U4r6I5N6g+AMZAiDtI8e0DKpTDZqwyAOJ2n2q1BCziLXO suE0mA8UVzvAwgUPKHi94PeDfg4P3KHzeEn18sc65bBQiRcyQ5QNJpDgj+LKiYK7WzRB 76hg== X-Received: by 10.68.203.226 with SMTP id kt2mr26971814pbc.141.1420851364002; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([209.12.167.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w8sm8163063pdl.23.2015.01.09.16.56.03 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:56:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54B078A0.6000304@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:56:00 -0800 From: Jungle Boogie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 00:56:04 -0000 Dear Michael, Freebsd-questions@freebsd -------------------------------------------- From: Michael Sierchio Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:44:26 -0800 To: Jungle Boogie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request > man chown > especially '-R' > > sudo chown -R www:www /usr/local/www No change. All files were already www www > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jungle Boogie > wrote: > >> Hello Friends, >> >> This just in: computers always do what you tell them to do! >> >> Now you great people: please teach me so I can tell my computer what I'm >> trying to do. >> >> Objective: cp file to /usr/local/www/data for lighttpd without using sudo >> all the time. >> >> Problem: It seems like I have the right group everywhere: file, /usr/local >> /usr/local/www and I'm in that group, too. -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:08:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CEDA6D5 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x233.google.com (mail-pd0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE4D396E for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f179.google.com with SMTP id fp1so20285742pdb.10 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:08:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vn7xqV79qNYmKMcVpZtfcuL2ehA7gkUyuiPUttbGO+M=; b=yDOIdEceGjSo1KPesYcFQci9Rvu7vWGzSfUSt51WL+RKpIj+j6KQ8yaFKAmRrlNu/w uk6DdzWYlHea3eYi5S6NhzfUq5f03dobnJb/wlnO/1M4Vzlo0ZY39QbV2haAIq9GGrq0 998Zy7SLVbJW5tn1qiC9BL3dzS7DN9oZ5Oyhkr5HuHMQh8XMqkfH2zZq96TC6NG0q6Cu 3kaa2swmUYJee2kNpgN96g+xfxFZR+Bsq6M9PKFBoHnW6ZqULeOwuN9K5XtVrGNR2vBq qO7kgBeSJNXApePHBdLgcB/l2Vnoi3eAFu+CH8W+wrdxIay0AVCe/P9vOHVcyQr0+Cqc 3lrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.157.67 with SMTP id wk3mr27525728pab.95.1420852133064; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.101.133 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:08:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20713.128.135.70.2.1420774393.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20150109092132.2f7f131e@X220.alogt.com> <20713.128.135.70.2.1420774393.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:08:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ?????Pls remove me I have been hacked!!! From: Adam Vande More To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Erich Dollansky , FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:08:54 -0000 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, January 8, 2015 7:21 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:34:14 -0600 > > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new > >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently > >> was delivered from domain > >> > > this is an old thing. It comes and goes. > > > >> sina.com.cn > >> > >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX > >> level? > >> > > It is not that easy. The sender addresses change very often. > > > > That is what I assumed from the very beginning. With these things on my > servers I usually do this: I find out which domain sender's MX serves. > Then I send complaint to > > abuse@that.domain.com > > No one usually gets back to me (at least from that geoip location no one > ever did). Then I send similar complaint appended with note that abise@ > never came back to me to postmaster@that.domain.com. After that I set my > MX to reject mail with message that that domain didn't respond abuse > complaint. [Did I miss something decent sysadmin should do in the case?] > Email is intrinsically open and spoof-able. Spending time on it further than marking it spam is almost universally a waste of time. Get a better spam filter is the answer. In other words: https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt -- Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:23:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCB398BC for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48BDAE7 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF5433C1D; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9853839813; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:16:58 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jungle Boogie Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> Reply-To: "freebsd-questions\@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:16:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> (Jungle Boogie's message of "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:42:12 -0800") Message-ID: <44oaq7bfjp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:23:35 -0000 Jungle Boogie writes: > Hello Friends, > > This just in: computers always do what you tell them to do! > > Now you great people: please teach me so I can tell my computer what > I'm trying to do. > > Objective: cp file to /usr/local/www/data for lighttpd without using > sudo all the time. > > Problem: It seems like I have the right group everywhere: file, > /usr/local /usr/local/www and I'm in that group, too. > > > User: jboogie > % id > uid=1007(jboogie) gid=1008(jboogie) > groups=1008(jboogie),0(wheel),5(operator),80(www),1002(usb) > > > % ls -l /usr/local/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % sudo chown www:www /usr/local/www > > % ls -l /usr/local > drwxr-xr-x 4 www www 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % ls -l /usr/local/www/ > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 www www 512 Jan 9 14:54 data Note the permissions. The group permissions do not include write. Only the user "www" may write to that directory. You are not user "www". Therefore, you may not write to that directory. If you want being in group "www" to be sufficient to be allowed to write to that directory, you need to "chmod g+w /usr/local/www/data" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:35:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAD519B9 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8631ABCD for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-102.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t0A1ZfFv001337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:35:42 -0600 Message-ID: <54B08364.7050406@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 19:41:56 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:35:44 -0000 On 01/09/15 18:42, Jungle Boogie wrote: > Hello Friends, > > This just in: computers always do what you tell them to do! > > Now you great people: please teach me so I can tell my computer what > I'm trying to do. > > Objective: cp file to /usr/local/www/data for lighttpd without using > sudo all the time. > > Problem: It seems like I have the right group everywhere: file, > /usr/local /usr/local/www and I'm in that group, too. > > > User: jboogie > % id > uid=1007(jboogie) gid=1008(jboogie) > groups=1008(jboogie),0(wheel),5(operator),80(www),1002(usb) > > > % ls -l /usr/local/ > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % sudo chown www:www /usr/local/www > > % ls -l /usr/local > drwxr-xr-x 4 www www 512 Jan 5 17:19 www > > % ls -l /usr/local/www/ > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 www www 512 Jan 9 14:54 data > > > > % ls -l vanmorrison.txt > -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie jboogie 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > % sudo chgrp www vanmorrison.txt > > % ls -l > total 4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > % chmod a+rw vanmorrison.txt > lyander-fbsd% ls -l > total 4 > -rw-rw-rw- 1 jboogie www 144 Jan 9 16:21 vanmorrison.txt > > % cp vanmorrison.txt /usr/local/www/data > cp: /usr/local/www/data/vanmorrison.txt: Permission denied > > Try a 'chmod -R g+w' on /usr/local/www. You changed permissions on the file (source) itself, that's not the problem, the destination is the issue. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:39:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70F33A72 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35B29BF6 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so15830242obc.1 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:39:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yUDMFZmQucY3oZXEghFUIywN3xuwl+IGe6c5VnHmiB0=; b=IfW6BrAyVxLrK1UGlkFfjq+w16s7D7NBTLin4rorfh4xzq/0P7lPAN1UOFJPiLMVIg Y6LQdpatuFz7CFHkOjsS1QBWh4H2ZHEXeAWHoPXYTYZXwymgyM+MClG7q1AfGmqYG+qC dkjgsbZPaOENp8JcqsbonaUIEAzG25/Aayh+2a8qTexIUobGBCbvUias6GZHo/eWRDJv cp3KMpSaSO+K0T7vdZ2HMIj8djgrkArFkeiFtq7N+tYbRzmeHVczY/O2uK3mnGN9QVkk 0HlBz1/rgdAI7v0H1HhvnTIeKZKbuqahE+JfGzIyGwbPHn7VGwo8DKvO8V5gXQwpPUII k0/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.98.240 with SMTP id el16mr11074570oeb.4.1420853987448; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:39:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <44oaq7bfjp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> <44oaq7bfjp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:39:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request From: jungle Boogie To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:39:48 -0000 Hi Lowell, On 9 January 2015 at 17:16, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Note the permissions. > The group permissions do not include write. > Only the user "www" may write to that directory. > You are not user "www". > Therefore, you may not write to that directory. > > If you want being in group "www" to be sufficient > to be allowed to write to that directory, you need > to "chmod g+w /usr/local/www/data" You win the cookie! I quickly glanced over the GROUP write permissions for some reason. -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:40:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16C62AFA for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE47FC01 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id u20so14344937oif.7 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6WgkfXMq791cmvGkK+Te1QxdNgtgCstp7IRwQleRMCU=; b=VDsn/LT6dhRjWnd7CAEe3kr6rnnHXnBUrMN1u9f5CQRn7AwqUoCT6YMJFI+Iq7v5E4 d0kBxGhxNbwEcRs3kTDT6P18zP1kGV/lPfRaCZDJCvTosptNZLg1t7G2IzF/SNGBWzx4 3gyUXp0m6V29N/hLt0d6fEEGdxAz7ecsr/aaoYKvCOeVV8PYfYNRbohw3XzVYqOox1x8 VR3YjpCY0ToAksyWAvvjVTUSiG3LwUWEa9cj0wz/mzFa3NitHjoTuoIkxZDnanZO0yl+ 4xPrLzddqG/wiAIVg2WneJURSzTsYCZfIvjoIfOz4U0u1dU27Y0xYbv4lV8e0TG/GZhR jIbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.107.164 with SMTP id hd4mr11208146obb.52.1420854045128; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54B08364.7050406@hiwaay.net> References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> <54B08364.7050406@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 17:40:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request From: jungle Boogie To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:40:46 -0000 Hi William, On 9 January 2015 at 17:41, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Try a 'chmod -R g+w' on /usr/local/www. You changed permissions on the file > (source) itself, that's not the problem, the destination is the issue. > You're exactly correct! Thanks for writing in and telling me what I should have already known! Happy second Friday of 2015! > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > -- ------- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboogie@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boogie@jit.si From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 01:55:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C67DC79 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DB2BD8E for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-19-102.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t0A1tDCT008352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 19:55:13 -0600 Message-ID: <54B087F7.6000304@hiwaay.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:01:27 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unix copy to different groups help request References: <54B07564.4000504@gmail.com> <54B08364.7050406@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:55:15 -0000 On 01/09/15 19:40, jungle Boogie wrote: > Hi William, > On 9 January 2015 at 17:41, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> Try a 'chmod -R g+w' on /usr/local/www. You changed permissions on the file >> (source) itself, that's not the problem, the destination is the issue. >> > You're exactly correct! Thanks for writing in and telling me what I > should have already known! > > Happy second Friday of 2015! > >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war >> ever devised by man." >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. Yeah, but the other dude beat me to the punch & got the cookie .... Oh, well, there's always next time :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 02:08:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E171EE97 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 02:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B732FE86 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 02:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 16D0ACB8C95; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:08:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from 166.175.62.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:08:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <35576.166.175.62.212.1420855684.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <20150108231912.C874F48940C@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> <54AF13F6.5070105@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20150109092132.2f7f131e@X220.alogt.com> <20713.128.135.70.2.1420774393.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 20:08:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: ?????Pls remove me I have been hacked!!! From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Adam Vande More" Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Erich Dollansky , FreeBSD Questions , galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 02:08:07 -0000 On Fri, January 9, 2015 7:08 pm, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > >> >> On Thu, January 8, 2015 7:21 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:34:14 -0600 >> > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> > >> >> Is that only me or others noticed too that every first message of new >> >> thread on this list if followed by junk like this. This apparently >> >> was delivered from domain >> >> >> > this is an old thing. It comes and goes. >> > >> >> sina.com.cn >> >> >> >> Would that be reasonable to reject all mail of that origin on the MX >> >> level? >> >> >> > It is not that easy. The sender addresses change very often. >> > >> >> That is what I assumed from the very beginning. With these things on my >> servers I usually do this: I find out which domain sender's MX serves. >> Then I send complaint to >> >> abuse@that.domain.com >> >> No one usually gets back to me (at least from that geoip location no one >> ever did). Then I send similar complaint appended with note that abise@ >> never came back to me to postmaster@that.domain.com. After that I set my >> MX to reject mail with message that that domain didn't respond abuse >> complaint. [Did I miss something decent sysadmin should do in the case?] >> > > Email is intrinsically open and spoof-able. Sorry, I was not clear enough. I complain to domain of the box that passed the message to my server. And this record is made by my server, hence can not be spoofed. The same is true about domain delivered the message in question to mail list server whose portion in the header I can trust. You should give people some credit, not everyone is a moron... valeri Spending time on it further > than marking it spam is almost universally a waste of time. Get a better > spam filter is the answer. In other words: > > https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt > > -- > Adam > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 07:22:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 785AF421 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x22e.google.com (mail-qc0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32DE2EC9 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c9so12415154qcz.5 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 23:22:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CfO/rL4N6e2Oywl4C6EdNIYLz0m2zCPaaflR0+gR8Mg=; b=JNj5FvmfwiliD3hODFh0UwUtpVbch4Tb209hiVCDLmyEVkyAtbbZXOh2+6iv0PMiNM cwwdO5dJDFGnKa96HOuNbJvrXoAWZUcSXm0kz0fSw/L1VbIvUK0bwg0GfSUqgTxrkPqt bBuXgpyLw/QEkhrLsbz6B4W4dHN8CdROqq3+ZBFnYxy5qNfv/0+ReNBO95GwFFBxwpsz 8AmPnVpUQCD5/iXPYzxa0hHGFOAoquB42Tbax4DZiOuNDGKSm8HHAM+ZiwO33il7l6Ei TaHA7o7zJMm4zo9vFKVj+KoUlzapB3+MlWuhLtTZn4J5wBu86NmUwoR+pfADtTFrzK7c 92ZA== X-Received: by 10.224.23.133 with SMTP id r5mr23509583qab.88.1420874529132; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 23:22:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.170.14 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 23:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: Bogdan SOLGA Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Hosting a FreeBSD FTP mirror in Romania To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:22:10 -0000 Hello! My name is Bogdan Solga, I am a FreeBSD user and enthusiast from Romania, and I would like to know if it would be possible to host a FreeBSD FTP mirror in Romania, and what would be the requirements for it. For the begginning, I could help by providing the storage on a personal server, residing in a data-center from Timisoara, Romania. Please tell me whom should I contact for further discussions. Thank you! Kind regards, Bogdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 09:55:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0C0D9E3 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEA1DFD for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:55:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 37833303 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:55:05 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t0A9t2Bc071707 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:55:05 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.9/8.14.7/Submit) id t0A9t2ke071706 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:55:02 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:55:02 +0600 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A superficially simple stateful ipfw configuration? Message-ID: <20150110095502.GA71577@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: OAO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:55:10 -0000 Colleagues, Has anyone been able to emulate the logic of Cisco PIX with ipfw? Like, there are 3 interfaces: Inside, Outside and DMZ. You assign security levels to the interfaces (Outside=0, DMZ=50, Inside=100) and the traffic can be initiated only from the more secure interface to the less secure one and not vice versa. The check-state traffic can also return from the less secure interface to the more secure one. It sounds simple but I have difficulties implementing the logic with ipfw. Any recipes/macros please? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 10:01:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04F77B9C for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oslo.ath.cx (oslo.ath.cx [IPv6:2a01:4f8:200:42e4::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oslo.ath.cx", Issuer "oslo.ath.cx" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51CA0EBD for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oslo.ath.cx (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d0a2c88d; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:01:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 11:01:05 +0100 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hosting a FreeBSD FTP mirror in Romania Message-ID: <20150110100105.GA12191@oslo.ath.cx> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Bogdan SOLGA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:01:09 -0000 On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 09:21:28AM +0200, Bogdan SOLGA wrote: > Hello! > > My name is Bogdan Solga, I am a FreeBSD user and enthusiast from Romania, > and I would like to know if it would be possible to host a FreeBSD FTP > mirror in Romania, and what would be the requirements for it. > > For the begginning, I could help by providing the storage on a personal > server, residing in a data-center from Timisoara, Romania. > > Please tell me whom should I contact for further discussions. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/article.html -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 10:21:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CED4FE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.webcast129.com (mx1.webcast129.com [50.30.42.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8BC817A for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:21:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; s=s1024;d=webcast129.com; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=vomjAY0VKJSWv6lqgRhhVKPA5jQ=; b=jjrPccJnSifQjb9XWX+RUnBMlfQKAGoHVhMzbNqOJAQDwLl/46JDoqw6/1RafSOkkelu2j6nmAfN189lHwGsJMpMpZ9NUMCGGRarHneW/SktnyRGuuwVKDmnVP2VghWp+6WewSUVj1aTiZFJxzXVvm4H/wAjZvl2WBed8ozTWtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=s1024;d=webcast129.com; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; b=X7CTPjPGmNEABWPNie5owh/2blijDnWaETAc0m6DU5SRp81kxPgVECN7iJXh6p4QtRjUNVYW52XxiJtHqVwkHs69tptT4yqfiy3zBKKuSUgRylfS1JExZs5zzGFnU6aacwAVd76U8iMJJ8A+BDQ71zqfcJpSpJP1t85S5nhaoV8= Received: from mx1.webcast129.com ([50.30.42.208]) by mx1.webcast129.com ([50.30.42.208]) with SMTPSVC 75095279; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:51:39 +0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Himsan Polymer" To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?U0lMSUNPTkUgVFVCSU5HLCBCUkFJREVEIEhPU0VTLCBHQVNLRVRTLA==?= =?utf-8?B?U0hFRVRTIEFORCBGQkQgR0FTS0VUUyAoRkRBIDIxIENGUiAxNzcuMg==?= =?utf-8?B?NjAwKSBBUFBST1ZFRCk=?= Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:51:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:21:50 -0000 Respected Sir, Sub. : Silicone & Viton Rubber Products for Food, = Pharma & Medical, Textile and Allied Industrial Applications We wish = to introduce ourselves as leading supplier of Silicon & Viton Rubber = Products for Food, Pharma & Medical Application with distinguished = characteristic as follows. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a72sm6786010yha.13.2015.01.10.07.16.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3kKPsb0960z5T6MW for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:16:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.5 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:16:00 -0500 From: Jerry To: User questions Subject: Site Down Message-ID: <20150110101600.0dbd5ece@scorpio> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/Y0BZZzb2=uajCcmcXN_+.WF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:16:37 -0000 --Sig_/Y0BZZzb2=uajCcmcXN_+.WF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attempting to access: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi results in the following error message: Error 503 Service Unavailable Backend status: Service Unavailable Transaction ID: 179631883 I assume that someone is working on this. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/Y0BZZzb2=uajCcmcXN_+.WF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUsUIyAAoJEElTsHIJnX8e34gIALCYiXejtM7xBH0W9ctSgUaj +t5+ICjUDU2k+1TCf9nqBfbhUfYrfiILgmrPC36i8WEwSY/ORWrRg4/a/+UFBHq8 AP9FVRRKDhA3nZO12DoBx9w0WWylVVTk0WWUwOtcBzxmg4OoHWdCDduq0leGeFCC SH95IK/V8uiv8GquEhsOM8zwXvbYZ9+6M8qMCBO9y0L2yGCIBpXNOi5i1cP+vkqV 3JSi8Ai5QjSKEjLcHGkE7Pfi9I+pQP2eRyYlq9ARn+utcL2RmZ9ZBC9CbCpNX+U+ GkB56wDiE6LnvaTvqlIr6WdcFRlEV5TJ7zIKXgyZqNK6OZBsKEoPndOA80RNx6Y= =6dIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Y0BZZzb2=uajCcmcXN_+.WF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 15:39:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B378CD7 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC3S18.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s18.hotmail.com [65.55.116.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7B3EFD for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU437-SMTP83 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S18.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:38:15 -0800 X-TMN: [Q9cK1xYfVncKHKfoTBq6cuxirOQcdHO4] X-Originating-Email: [bourne.identity@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 21:08:03 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, himsanpolymer@yahoo.com Subject: Re: SILICONE TUBING, BRAIDED HOSES, GASKETS,SHEETS References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2015 15:38:13.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[71EF76C0:01D02CEB] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 15:39:23 -0000 That must rank as one of my favourite picks amongst posts to=20 freebsd-questions. 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