From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jun 6 23: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from gate2.consol.de (gate2.consol.de [194.221.87.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF721512A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Michael.Elbel@consol.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: Michael.Elbel@consol.de (at relayer gate2.consol.de) Received: from msgsrv.bb.consol.de (root@msgsrv.bb.consol.de [10.250.0.100]) by gate2.consol.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17913; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.int.consol.de (fourier.int.consol.de [10.0.1.17]) by msgsrv.bb.consol.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29136; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 Received: (from me@localhost) by fourier.int.consol.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) id IAA43216; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from me) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:59 +0200 From: Michael Elbel To: Wes Peters Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals Message-ID: <19990607080257.B42584@consol.de> References: <19990605224422.A70789@consol.de> <3759FCC2.D2666FFE@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <3759FCC2.D2666FFE@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:44:50PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:44:50PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Michael Elbel wrote: > > > > In lists.freebsd.advocacy you write: > > > > >Wes Peters wrote: > > [...] > > >> http://www.tekmetrics.com/ (duh!) > > [...] [...] > > I'd be astonished if You'd not. I managed to get a Master UNIX admin - > > score 4.55 at half past eleven in the evening after 3 beers (german ones, > > mind you :) > > My partner Jody took it this afternoon and scored 4.60 with his 3-year > old twins running around his office. See :-) > I hate those "pick the best answer" questions, the scoring is so > arbitrary. The test struck me as being quite good for a 40-question > test, but I'd rather see more coverage of network I/O and less on > terminal-related topics. Same here for the -admin test. The security and network related questions came too short for my taste and were of less quality than the rest IMO. In this day's world you simply don't administer standalone Unix boxes without network any more. > I'm going to take a few more, including UNIX sysadmin, while they're > still free. I would like to encourage a few more of the advocates to do > so also, so we can get an idea of whether we want to pursue this as an > avenue for advocacy or not. I'm certain they would be open to creating > FreeBSD-specific versions of several of their exams, if we think it is > worth putting our name on. I think it would not be too much work replacing the low number of questions that are more Solaris/SYSV than BSD. One thing that struck me as somewhat bothersome is that everything going on is unencrypted. They should at least consider transmitting personal data via https if they want to build a reputation of a respectable certification house. Michael -- \|/ -O- Michael Elbel, ConSol* GmbH, - me@consol.de - 089 / 45841-256 /|\ Fermentation fault (coors dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message