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Date:      Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:42:11 -0500 (EST)
From:      "Christopher R. Bowman" <crb@ChrisBowman.com>
To:        Brandon Lockhart <brandon@engulf.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ISDN
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980322173446.287A-100000@quark.ChrisBowman.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980322125554.8679A-100000@engulf.com>

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On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Brandon Lockhart wrote:

>I have an ISDN question, (go figure, I am writing this list), well, a few
>of them.  I will be getting a dedicated ISDN line called "CENTREX" from my
>ISP soon.  I am not sure if they are going to support compression, but I
>would like to get a router that supports 4:1 anyway.  I have been looking
>at the Ascend Pipeline 50 for awhile now.  But I am unsure about what I
>can do with it.  I was reading on the Ascend site that the Pipeline 50
>will disconnect, then once a connection is attempted, it would connect.
>And it would only use one B channel until 2 where needed.  Is there a way
>I can turn that option off?  So I am always connected and both channels
>are always in use.  Since this is a dedicated connection, I won't be
>getting billed for my time online, so I might as well have full capacity.
>
>Also, do you recomend any other sort of router that I should look into?
>So far I know I need a few things.  The router should be able to be
>plugged directly into my HUB, it should bond both channels for me already,
>without any special configuration.  If the config is easy, that is fine
>too.  I would like one where I can filter TCP and ICMP packets, but that
>is not necessary.  Also, I have a question about the way the router is
>used.  Below are some drawings.

I hear that the netopia routers from farallon are nice.

_____ Computer 1
>====isdn line from phone company===<Router>--<Hub>'----- Computer 2
>                                                  `----- Etc..
>
>Is that how a normal configuration would go?  Say Computer 1 was FreeBSD,
>and #2 was Windows NT.  I would have 16 IP's for 3 computers on this
>particular example.  With the router, could I assign 1.1.1.2 though
>1.1.1.14 to the FreeBSD machine, 1.1.1.15 to the windows NT machine,
>1.1.1.16 to the other computer, then 1.1.1.1 to the router.  Would I make
>the gateway for #1, #2, and #3 1.1.1.1?  What would the broadcast be?  If
>I assigned those addresses to the FreeBSD machine for VHOSTS, would I have
>to do anything to the router?  Below is an example I am curious about.

If you are subnetting the block of 16 addresses, then right away 2 address'
are reserved, the zero, and all ones addesses identify the network, and
it's broadcast address respectively.

>====isdn===<Router>==<Computer #1 (firewall)===<hub>--- Computer #2
>						    `-- Computer #3
>Then would I make 1.1.1.2 (#1) the gateway on #2 and #3, and on #1 make
>the gateway 1.1.1.1?

yes

>Third and final true question, If I got a regular ISDN router, would I
>need a TA?  Ok, 4th question, last, honestly, is all this trouble worth
>it?

Depends on the router, most I have seen have the TA built in, but
I think there are some where it is an option, sometimes the documentation
say S/T interface sometimes U interface, I forget though which one means
built in TA.  It probably is worth the effort, and is probably even
easier than setting up a workstation with a TA, and doing the routing
on that.

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