Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:44:04 -0500 From: Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com> To: Toxa <postfix@sendmail.ru> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project Message-ID: <4270CC84.8060904@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20050428105348.GA8056@laptoxa.toxa.lan> References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <426FDE69.8090909@samsco.org> <426FE1EA.7020900@kutulu.org> <20050428105348.GA8056@laptoxa.toxa.lan>
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Toxa wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 03:03:06PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > >>Scott Long wrote: >> >> >>>Is it possible to do this without having to switch to an entirely >>>raster-based console? Raster consoles (like what SuSE uses) have >>>been discussed in the past, and the common thinking is that the >>>loss in reliability and loss in speed is a significant issue to >>>consider. >> >>One possible alternative to an all-out graphics display would be a >>'prettified' text console. I'm thinking of what Gentoo and older RedHat >>systems did (haven't used RH in years, dunno if this still applies) >>where about 80% of the system log messages are hidden behind a simple >>task list: >> >>Mounting File Systems ... [ok] >>Starting xl0 ... [ok] >> >>etc. With, of course, the obligatory cyan, magenta, and bright green >>colors. While partly eye candy, I find it much easier to deal with than > > > This is the most stupid idea I've ever head. Please, PLEASE, don't waste > your time turning FreeBSD into pink lolypop. Is it already > super-perfect-mega-stable-with-all-desired-features-implemeted? IMHO if > somebody wants to spare his time and skills working on freebsd, he should choose > more useful direction for his mights and power. For example, take a look > at all these PRs... Stop and think that maybe some people can help in the areas that aren't C coding, or kernel debugging. We still need ideas like this (even if we choose not to use them), and calling them stupid I think isn't very constructive for anyone. Ok, so you don't like the idea, we got it. On the PRs - there are tons of PRs with patches, waiting to be committed. All it takes is for a committer to grab it, compile, test, and commit, but regular old FreeBSD supporters like myself can't commit the code, so what would you like us to do? (That's a rhetorical question, I don't need an answer). I, myself, am used to the FreeBSD blast-a-bunch-of-text-at-me bootup message, and I don't mind it. However, that doesn't mean it couldn't use some cleaning up. It would be nice if it was a *little* more organized so you could easily glance at the screen and see whats happening. The little [OK] messages have been around for quite some time, and I don't think Redhat invented them - I've seen them on older HP-UX boxes too, and I have to say, it's a lot easier to tell what is going on than our current ascii-spray we have now. I've even had people ask if my machine just crashed when they see it boot. This could easily be an rc.conf option I'm sure.. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology A lost ounce of gold may be found, a lost moment of time never. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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