From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 22 12:18:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9B016A4E0 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD4C43D5D for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:18:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (monrovll-cuda1-24-53-251-44.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.251.44]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 08:18:17 -0400 id 00056407.44C21789.0000723D Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 08:18:15 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "sammy sumer" Message-Id: <20060722081815.ac3abc13.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f0d62060607220403j599c1131xfcfb38e6b18c7c6c@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What FreeBSD users really want X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:18:22 -0000 "sammy sumer" wrote: > Here is what I would fix: > > 1. Reinvent the installer and interface. > > Fundamental thing like system installer is still phenomenally arcane. There > is no excuse for FreeBSD developers not to upgrade the system installer and > why not using disk imaging technology like Norton ghost or Acronis > TrueImageinstead of the traditional installation. These are great ideas. The most comprehensive attempt at this has been libh, which attempted to seperate the display of the installer from the logic behind it, thus allowing the installer to look pretty and graphical on fully graphical terminals, yet work over a serial console as well. The project has stalled a dozen times due to lack of manpower. I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you could provide: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/libh.html > 2. Integrate a PHP shell into the core of the system. > > PHP is by far the most popular computing language in the world. Why not > have a shell called PHP shell. So lots of web developers out there can > easily create shell scripts in PHP syntax to automate and run programs on > FreeBSD. > > Who wants to learn bash or sh scripting? They are by far the least popular > and ugly programming language in the world. > > It is astounding that FreeBSD developers have not clued in to the fact that > millions of backend webmasters could easily migrate and adopt FreeBSD as > their O.S of their choice because of PHP. This is a great idea, I'm embarrassed that I never thought of it. I don't see what it has to do with FreeBSD, however. It soulds like a project for Zend or the other PHP folks. Once they have it, it can be made into a FreeBSD port easily, then the Linux folks can benefit as well. Jump on over to the PHP site and throw your idea out. I'm sure they could use some help getting it developed. -- Bill Moran Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what?