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Date:      Mon, 16 Dec 1996 07:56:31 -0800 (PST)
From:      Dirk Hans Krakaur Floranes <dkrakavr@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org, bugs@freebsd.orgs, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   SOS for a Freebsd instalation
Message-ID:  <199612161556.HAA13885@freefall.freebsd.org>

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ok, this is a bigone so readit if you have time...

this is a (REAL) history of a friend of my called johny 5
and its obsesion whit a failed intent of installing 
freebsd 2.1.5.

like 4 months ago jonhy and a freind called jimbo,
tried to install freebsd 2.1.5 in the jimbo's
"pentium-166-16-ram-1.6-gigabyte-windows-95-equiped"
computer...

they didnt have enougth money to bougth the cd so they
downloded the system from one of the ftp of freebsd.org
in brazil.

they downloaded the boot4.flp fixit.flp and all the 
/bin subdirectory

and for some reason the boot.flp didnt function so they
used the boot4.flp and evrythings was going so far so
good until they discover thath didnt have space for 
another partition.. they didn't know of the fips utility
so after a week they get 23 diskettes & backup all
in the backup was all the bin.?? files and some of the
information that jimbo didnt want to loose...

so they runed again the boot.flp that they already have
rawrite in a disk.. the from the partitions
utility in the novice window of the installation
program they erased all of the dos partition and then settled
300 megabytes for a partition of freebsd...
then they reiniciated formated the rest of the disk
installed installed windows 95 filesystem only from a boot disk
with the A:> sys c: command , and
with A:>pkunzip -d freebsd.zip c: they restored the backup
then 
they formated all the 20 diskettes
whit the C:>format a: /u
they was specialy carefull in that none 
of it had a bad cluster or something
in this case they used another...
all the diskettes was perfect and formated
so they created the bin subdirectory in each one
and copied in it the bin files.
5 bin in each one...
exactly like the instalation.txt indicates

evrything was going well and they was very (i mean very)
ilusioneted, motivated,
all this proccess took like five or 6 hours since the begging
until then... then the bug came out...
it was the worst thing that you could imagine.
the most frustrating one.
all the installation process was going well...
the partition, the labeling / they read it all the menus
so they worked well whit evrything
in the media the chosee flopy disks set
in the distribution the one marked as bin.
and then it happen
evrything was going well until the menu
"please insert the flopy disk"
they inserted the first diskette whit the
A:\BIN\BIN.AA
A:\BIN\BIN.AB
A:\BIN\BIN.AC
A:\BIN\BIN.AD
A:\BIN\BIN.AE
files in the drive and then hit the enter
whit sweat int he face and the heart pumping.
and a menu that says

"Couldn't extract the following distributions 
this maybe becouse they were not available on
the instalation media you have chosen"
bin

they were fully determined so they tried evrything
from changing the directory of a:\bin
to a:\dist
& then to a:\dist\bin, a:\bin.aa, a:\freebsd\bin
a:\freebsd
i mean evrything
then they tried installing from a msdos partition
they created the C:\FREEBSD\BIN directory
and then copied the bin files to it
the same thing happen.
the same awful menu.

the worst was that the instalation program
didnt find a kernel image to link so they have
to boot from the flopies constantly

after a few hours triying they give it up
and tried whit the fixit flopie

the floppie replied whit a #

and they didn't know enougth unix to fixit..

after all they didn't have been root's never.
so they give up heartbrokenly.

that was 4 months ago...
the last week jhony tried in his own computer the
same thing... this time he had readit all of the
install.txt and most of the freebsd online handbook in fact.
so whit the fips utility he created another partion
of 480 megabytes in the 1.6 Gb (IDE) of his 
pentium /133 24-ram computer
and tried exactly the same thing.
and exactly the same thing happened:

he had downloaded the fips. the boot.flp, fixit.flp
and bin.aa to bin.ee from ftp mirror #2 in a near
computer that had internet conection, 
compressed put it back in home uncompresed and installed.
the version was again the 2.1.5 &
this time he had special careful in formating the 
diskkets from a ms-dos (6.22) based machine.
(this time the boot.flp works well
and the help files where available
something that wasn't in the boot4.flp)

and exactly the same thing happened... 
he tried again changing the ms-dos subdirectorys
and installing from a ms-dos partition
there where no diferrence.

but

this time johny 5 was fully determined.
he find a old unix SVR5 reference manual
put the fixit floppie inside and tried for over 12
continuos hours to learn enough unix to make the install
proccess from the hostile # prompt.

he tried mounting and umounting, making nfs to the hard
disk, whit fsck, changing the path removing the floppie
& trying of copy the kernel from the boot..

then mounting the ms-dos partition and coping
the bin. files to a new bin directory in /dev/wd0s2 mounted
as /mnt

and then trying to uncompress it with restore & rrestore
the with gunzip, whit zcat 

he look evrywhere for a command
like the 'sys' of ms-dos
so he dont have to boot from floppie

some of this functioned... but none enougth to install
the bin files or to link the kernel in the hard disk

he become obsesionated whit it and since then he is still
trying but now had become pale and thin.
he didnt ate or drink nothing or almost nothing, if some
one speaks to him he didn't answer 
or says something about 'the kernel'
im worried about im and his live
so i decided to write this letter to those fellows in
freebsd.org that surely could help.
what should johny do
where was the mistake?
in compressing the files at the beggining?
should he downloaded it again and try it all?
its a bug in the installation program?
should the bin files go in another subdirectory?
i mean it was in a:\bin
should it be in a:\dist? or something
its a bug in the instalation program?
are somewhere a procedure to install the kernel
and the all the system in the hard disk trougth
the fixit # prompt ?
and finally...
to install freebsd, what should he done?




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