From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 2 16:11:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA00130 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00114 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA04538; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199710022314.TAA04538@sabre.goldsword.com> To: jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com, tom@sdf.com Subject: Re: Multiple serial ports Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com, richard@pegasus.com Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Tom said: >On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, John T. Farmer wrote: >> servers. Livingston & Co. are relative newcomers to the field. (I was >> buying & selling DEC terminal servers during the early '80's & they >> weren't new product then...) > > The Livingston PM-11 (no longer made) came out in '82. You can get them >used for $300 now. Yes, I know. At the time, it was a _very_ unknown company/device. I view it as a "well done!" for Livingston to have taken such a major share of the market in 15 years. >> I _don't_ want a box that is dependant on Radius servers, high-speed > > Who is? Livingston stuff certainly isn't. IF you define a RADIUS >server, it is checked AFTER the local user table. For this type of application, I would design it as a totally seperate network from any publicly accessible network. As such, I usually setup ports to auto-connect, and don't setup any user tables unless it's required. The major points I was making are: 1. If you have more expensive older gear that you want to use, use it. 2. If there anen't any requirements for the features of the more expensive boxes, then look at cheaper, easiler solutions. 3. Sometimes using the same equipment everywhere is better than saving money. Sometimes different is better, sometimes worse. 4. No ruleset will give the correct answer every time. YMMV. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee dial-in (423)470-9953 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting