From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 7 23:11:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A90A16A419 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DDB13C459 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so2607335rvb.43 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eqHM34Oi36w+4oXUw4dYWGwXGY9ko+DyHGbi1VJvCEw=; b=XxprknHcT9wRHfaKQNxeHr6iV8A+2xTRZ78uKkR9UTstUU3OSua4EEoiDs/rGKegq6qmJXdngpY7p09UCX+eRpAXjzqIoCDAKJwyXvW+Q6Q/vfFtVHsBVwKeLwqxZ7/VawhfROxKOBcJ+rll+pRZANN6532qCiEXG0SQqusNNY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CO3xtabiLbMu9iFY0LtNs67VsipsjeS+5+fQJLcdnVfnlH6idpFlM5Uh274CZXgppScebtN5bwv7lC7evuqLOpRCxTGFFUOf58E4dSOMB+OIb6hRaqgKEQSzREf/ICvzYR1cyEcvpxMAmW1rqymCxnq0PNXNedVM0ss2sNc3VCs= Received: by 10.140.179.25 with SMTP id b25mr8014336rvf.186.1202425913436; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.198.3 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540802071511n396a02ap8fca378c2774e41f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:11:53 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20080207223827.GA32246@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200802042014.40016.af300wsm@gmail.com> <200802072329.30152.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20080207223827.GA32246@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:11:54 -0000 On Feb 7, 2008 3:38 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer > this > > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the > log ( > > > > 100 times). > > > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. > I > > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just > to > > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop > adding > > new stuff to the disk. > > Agree. If it is seeing repeated errors, it is most likely about to > die totally at any time. > I suspected as much but being new to smartmon wanted to make sure. I was especially curious to find out what a "pending" sector was. I understand a sector, but the pending part was curious for me. I was talking with a guy at work that does some file system stuff and he told me that if SMART is giving you errors, it's not good. I have to admit, I wished something like this existed in '92 when I started as a service tech for a small, local computer company in upstate NY. It would have made life a lot easier. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?