From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Jun 22 14:16:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739CFD8D306 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5127CA7B for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5DB56D8D305; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D570D8D303 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA487CA7A; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1235) id 6665015387; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:16:44 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version Message-ID: <20170622141644.yadxdubynuhzygcy@ivaldir.net> References: <20170622121856.haikphjpvr6ofxn3@ivaldir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wfxmi5gdbp7oaui2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:16:45 -0000 --wfxmi5gdbp7oaui2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:03:33AM -0400, scratch65535@att.net wrote: > [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin > wrote: >=20 > >As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle th= e number > >of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to maintai= n, it is > >only one branch). >=20 > Please help me out here, Baptiste, because I'm apparently missing > *something*. =20 >=20 > Out in industry, if you haven't enough people to do a new > high-quality release every N months, and you can't get a > headcount increase, then you cut the release schedule. Can't do > 4 releases a year? Cut back to 2. Still too many? Cut back to > 1. >=20 > The alternatives to cutting the schedule are that (a) people > begin burning out and quitting, (b) quality drops and your > customer base begins abandoning you, or (c) both of the above. >=20 > Why don't the same choices apply here? What am I missing? We only have 1 quarterly branch at the time :) The model with one branch per release will bring it to way more with a maintenance window way larger (actually it is 3 month making the quarterly relatively easy to maintain) Best regards, Bapt --wfxmi5gdbp7oaui2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAllL0UcACgkQY4mL3PG3 Plow9xAAp/v4arZebWoF4U4Y97WyymtWdGhcgIJ5NMgeqoCGELjOggVtNP/8Akd4 3a1JtXnTNezZYmthF4EpoEN/BXjUwTFjMZQrARyk6u+Kf010Mszj2Wb93lJo9vy3 EBy/ewMZKQvpYXSMc7a9FS7Iw+aV/xZbyM/tg01ka/DVqwbN0Po1rrWmJofOcvpg 3+Lt/iKHFBaM6RpD3CHUR+YaS0NfBluo+0+CqKwCEPysrXHQnGk73aU2E/kOIK4D 3KMbxjwuerkTbWwzU5RLy+sn4CqJmAeyc8B5Nlb3WOnnV+6XEU+Mvt9lYKYYkwQl FqYMqkS2ZD8J4//av+3WrZoAo1rdNURqllTr3tPNFvZv81qcwEqFyKZciOHBGd/1 4XEIWq/oVsaJIfbCJ8mLHfhlArCn2DBZlgZMgdfFndzjV6Hg3UiYDzolUfW1HbuF FvrSTlJApiwIqDxu4wUagONmvHdApOp2vwP/CXVIaM4ZDq/R27heuECRCESBtEXT VcWcBO2UDKN2iIzGAc5kn7uG2PIbM/0N0NpLHcjIbRpFwhq/Tw2lZAewoMFQP3ll KG/v50ttq3UzWG1D3mytp7O5X4G9lDUQcN95LgacKwqXL4GCJlvB37TjrGj5RoP9 ikvKNaBH23LKpYXXIV2tGTsP4BATMroRmLD1aXDn6uwIC8o10f8= =1Zte -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wfxmi5gdbp7oaui2--