From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 22:23:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1B716A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:23:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2320E43D48 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:23:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1154CA88; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:26:36 +0200 From: cpghost To: Jonathon McKitrick Message-ID: <20051006222636.GC625@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hidden spot on hard drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:23:46 -0000 On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 07:44:37PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection > product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch it, > a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it. > > 1. Any idea where this info could be stored? Where from do smartmontools fetch the results of the disk selftests? Perhaps from an area that is not mapped, using some unusual controller commands? This controlled-accessed area looks like a nice place to hide some data, even hidden from a "dd if=/dev/ad1 ..." (they don't get reset even after a disk format). Though I haven't read the source code of smartctl... Just wildguessing here. > 2. Any way the same thing could be done under FreeBSD? > > Thanks, > > jm -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/