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Date:      Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:55:28 -0800 (PST)
From:      Philip Hallstrom <philip@adhesivemedia.com>
To:        Chris P <freebsd@rawfire.torche.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Multiple questions...
Message-ID:  <20021121165220.S74193-100000@cypress.adhesivemedia.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0211211529410.29957-100000@rawfire.torche.com>

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> since when does 'w' show ftp users that are not on a tty?  They dont.. I
> just double checked....  Most people that setup a FreeBSD machine, know
> all about man also..

Okay... so I was wrong... but you also said "background" not just FTP...
and the man page references ps which would give it to you for sure... and
if people who know how to setup a freebsd machine know about man why are
there so many questions whose answer is "read the man page" :)

> > > Whats an easy way to check if people are using my machine in the
> > > backround.. IE doing an ftp?  Is there something other then checking
> >
> > man w
> >
> > I'm not a hardware expert so don't know if the card's bad or not, but why
> > not swap it with one of the NIC's in your PCs?  If the card is bad then
> > presumabely your FreeBSD box will start to work fine and that one PC will
> > start to flake out, but at least it's just the one PC and not the whole
> > network.
>
> I'm looking for software solutions for now.  then I'll deal with cracking
> things open.  People always jump on switching out hardware, instead of
> trying to figure out why something is failing.  Thats alot of work versus
> software ways of checking things out.

Depends on the case :)  The dells I have here would take me about 10
minutes total... vs how much time trying to fiddle with the software never
really knowing if it's the card or not... and if you switch it out and it
works you have more time to leisurely figure out why it was bad instead of
ticking off whoever is using the rest of the PC's when the net goes down.

-philip


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