From owner-freebsd-current Mon Aug 16 14:49:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712BB152A7 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA21674; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:47:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Mike Smith Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Q: Extending the sysctl MIB for Linuxulator variables In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:33:12 PDT." <199908162133.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:47:55 +0200 Message-ID: <21672.934840075@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199908162133.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> > Yes, this is very true. But I think we are fooling ourselves if we >> > believe linux emulation will not become 'standard' in the near future. >> > Then we'll kick ourselves for giving the sysctl's convoluted names :-) >> >> Yeah... Then, the next in line after "linux" are: ibcs2 and svr4 and >> whatever comes next. Can you live with them as main sysctl categories? >Given that "ABI" is a bit obscure, kern.compat is the only sensible >choice. I think that is too obscure considering the exposure this will get. It doesn't really matter much what we feel about it, linux will be a native and 100% normal binary format for us, if we try to marginalize it we loose in perception. We have things to make us posix compatible at the top level already, I don't see why the linux stuff should live under the top level too. And as father of sysctl, I think this discussion needs to come to a close rather than waste more bandwidth, so unless Mike can convince us why "Adding anything at the top level would be a terrible mistake" I think the conclusion is "linux.*" Last call Mike ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message