From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 18:35:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21558 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nirvana.genesyslab.com (nirvana.genesyslab.com [204.94.142.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21487; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abelits@genesyslab.com) Received: from es1840.genesyslab.com (abelits@es1840-nat.genesyslab.com [204.94.142.68]) by nirvana.genesyslab.com (Guinness/Extra Stout) with ESMTP id SAA00985 (envelope-from abelits@genesyslab.com); Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (abelits@localhost) by es1840.genesyslab.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03154; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: es1840.genesyslab.com: abelits owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Belits To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. While Eric Raymond may know better, I suspect that they were afraid of being involved in political issues over *BSD _vs._ Linux. That looks way, way more realistic, evan though still insulting. > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. Please, before doing that try to make a list of goals that it is supposed to accomplish. -- Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message