Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:49:01 -0700 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu> Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD certified software (was: WordPerfect 8 for Linux) Message-ID: <36374AFD.CABEEEED@softweyr.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810280801570.410-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>
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"Jason C. Wells" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Wes Peters wrote:
>
> >I initially proposed two logos, but apparently nobody saw that message.
> >The two logo programs are "Designed for FreeBSD" and "Works with FreeBSD."
>
> My cut on this is one logo. Works with FreeBSD.
I'd rather see extra credit given to those who take the time to make
certain their software or hardware functions in the FreeBSD environment,
and offer some sort of support for it.
The big difference here is that "Works with FreeBSD" is based on the
reports and work of FreeBSD volunteers, who have taken the time to
determine if some piece of hardware or software will work with FreeBSD,
and offers some instructions on how to make it do so.
"Designed for FreeBSD" is reserved for software and hardware that is
actually supported by their creator in the FreeBSD environment.
> The process of "Work with" should be transparent to the end user. I
> believe Terry L. proposed simply using existing package dependencies
> system to determine if software uses the Linuxulator.
So, someone who reports that the SCO version of Froboz Corp FroSQL server
will work on FreeBSD under the SCO emulator is just noise? No, this is
a volunteer effort, and we should encourage participation as much as
possible. Let's not try to over-complicate this out of existence, this
project has far too much history of people wanting to build giant infra-
structure but not being willing to step up and implement it.
I feel strongly we should stick with a couple of simple rules; perhaps have
a second tester install and test the application using the instructions or
scripts given by the first. Independant verification of results is
important, but I don't see why we should deny a "Works with" logo to a
product because nobody will write a port kit.
As far as the infrastructure goes, I think the advocacy and questions
mailing list are entirely adequate. Somebody grabs and application they
want, figures out how to install it, tests it, makes some careful notes,
and fires off an email message: "Hey, I've tested FroSQL and it works!
Here's what you have to do..." A couple more people think "Hey, FroSQL
could be kinda nice, I'll give that a try." They concur, or they resolve
problems and fix up the instructions, or write a port tarball, or whatever,
and finally email -advocacy saying "Hey, we've found that FroSQL works.
Here's the installation instructions for their web page entry, let's send
them a Works With logo."
--
Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
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