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Date:      Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:52:44 -0500
From:      "Aryeh M. Friedman" <>
To:        RW <>
Subject:   Re: Sun sucks
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: <>
References:  <036001c971dd$e025e220$a071a660$@com> <> <> <>

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RW wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:16:25 -0500
> Steve Bertrand <> wrote:
>> RW wrote:
>>> Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any
>>> company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go
>>> through the hoops afterwards.
>> Improper subject, wrong attitude.
>> If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of
>> the BSD license scope, then follow it properly.
>> FreeBSD ( && personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping
>> outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather
>> jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend
>> it to my needs, as opposed to  having the system, and possibly its
>> users, face legal ramifications later...
> That would be an excellent point if I claimed to speak for the FreeBSD
> project - I don't, so it isn't. OSS projects aren't liable for the
> actions and opinions of their end-users.

Perhaps we go to far though because I know of no other OS vendor that
requires you to "sign" a seperate license for Java... they just notify
you in their "legal file" that your responible to execute the license
before you install... that way there is none of this current crazyness.

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