From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 18:52:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A347F1065675 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4E18FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KD700HJIWFXBA81@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n09IqiNR002055; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:52:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:52:44 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20090109153358.38b18bd7@gumby.homeunix.com> To: RW Message-id: <49679CFC.3060903@gmail.com> Organization: FloSoft Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 References: <036001c971dd$e025e220$a071a660$@com> <20090109034737.5039be14@gumby.homeunix.com> <4966CF99.4030400@ibctech.ca> <20090109153358.38b18bd7@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081124) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:52:47 -0000 RW wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:16:25 -0500 > Steve Bertrand wrote: > > >> RW wrote: >> > > >>> Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any >>> company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go >>> through the hoops afterwards. >>> >> Improper subject, wrong attitude. >> >> If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of >> the BSD license scope, then follow it properly. >> >> FreeBSD ( && personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping >> outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather >> jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend >> it to my needs, as opposed to having the system, and possibly its >> users, face legal ramifications later... >> > > > That would be an excellent point if I claimed to speak for the FreeBSD > project - I don't, so it isn't. OSS projects aren't liable for the > actions and opinions of their end-users. > > Perhaps we go to far though because I know of no other OS vendor that requires you to "sign" a seperate license for Java... they just notify you in their "legal file" that your responible to execute the license before you install... that way there is none of this current crazyness.