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Date:      Sun, 14 May 2000 08:56:46 +1000
From:      "Haikal Saadh" <wyldephyre2@yahoo.com>
To:        "gh" <grasshacker@linkfast.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already?
Message-ID:  <000001bfbda3$3cfd10c0$92a393cb@timberwolf>
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Heh..some friends and I were talking about this the other day, in fact...but
we came up with the conclusion that they were hippies rather than
communists...

It's a shame that (IMO) while they have some good ideas (free software),
their 'implementation' has certain things less desirable (GPL).

Think about it... the hippies (a generalisation) wanted world peace and all,
which was a good, thing, but hey ended up shagging each other and tripping
all the time instead.

*sigh*.


----- Original Message -----
From: gh <grasshacker@linkfast.net>
To: <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already?


>
>
> > > On Sat, 13 May 2000, Brennan W Stehling wrote:
> >
> > > > My flawed upgrade to 4.0 a while back left me feeling FreeBSD is
going
> too
> > > > fast and that stability and quality is suffering.  A friend of mine
> was
> > > > actually scared off and now prefers to go with Linux as it's
> development
> > > > seems to be more conservative.
> >
> > I don't know what kind of crack that guy is smoking, but there is
> > nothing at all conservative about Linux or GNU in general.  Even if we
> > forget about all the communist ideology behind the GPL, they'll still
> > take a patch from just about anyone unless it total sucks.  The only
> > reason that it looks like FreeBSD is moving so fast, as opposed to say,
> > RedHat, is because FreeBSD is controlled by one group, as opposed to
> > scavenging everything rom thousands of different people.  Linux its self
> > is just an operating system kernel and can do nothing useful on it's
> > own.
> > Plus, do you think it's coincidence that Richard Stallmans name sounds
> > so much like Joseph Stalin?
> >
> >
>
> Curious: If many people are not in favor (for lack of a better phrase) of
> GNU, why do we still use tools developed under its ideology?
>
> As above, people are comparing this group to a group of "communists" and
> Stallman to Stalin. Who are we (or 'these people') to continue *using* GNU
> tools and things development along its ideology?
>
> This is almost like saying: Okay, we *really really* don't like you
people,
> but as long as you are developing stuff, and are giving it away for free,
we
> will gladly exploit this to further ourselves.
>
> With which I don't think I have a problem, but what do others believe?
>
> Dan
> gh
>
> Moved to -chat from -questions because -chat is more appropriate for this
> new question. ;-)
>
> > --
> > William D. Freeman (wfreeman@picusnet.com)
> > http://memebers.xoom.com/EvilGNU
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