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Date:      Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:31:34 +0300
From:      Nikolay Denev <ndenev@gmail.com>
To:        Harald Schmalzbauer <h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org, auryn@zirakzigil.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Pete French <petefrench@ingresso.co.uk>
Subject:   Re: Problem with link aggregation + sshd
Message-ID:  <6F4AAF36-46D6-439A-8122-DD305B77CBB9@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <503DEC58.1050609@omnilan.de>
References:  <E1T6eiz-000FgC-TV@dilbert.ingresso.co.uk> <503DEC58.1050609@omnilan.de>

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On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Harald Schmalzbauer =
<h.schmalzbauer@omnilan.de> wrote:

> schrieb Pete French am 29.08.2012 11:38 (localtime):
>>> Link aggregation can never work with two separate switches! LACP and
>>> static trunking require both sides to bundle the same trunk. which =
is
>>> impossible for two separate switches.
>> These switches had a port where you could connect them together and
>> then configure each to know about the other switch, and to do LACP
>> across the pair of them. Or at least thats what it looked like it
>> was capable of doing, and it appeared to be doing LACP when =
configured
>> that way and connected to Windows machines, just not FreeBSD ones. =
But I'm
>=20
> What you desciribe is well known as =84stacking=93 (not to mix with =
=84virtual
> stacking=93) and sorry that I haven't made clear that in such a case =
LACP
> (also static trunking of course) works well and is a fantastic way to
> gain redundancy.
> When you create a physical switch stack, the individual switches are =
no
> separate switches anymore, but act like one big switch.
> With the advantage, that in case of a failure, and a trunk configured
> over two different units of the stack, the link remains active.
> But like mentioned, these switches are then not considered to be
> separate (=84virtual stacking=93 only combine them in management =
regards,
> _not_ physically, so be carefull when you look for switches with
> =84stacking=93 capabilities!).
> The disadvantage of the real hardware stackable switch is the price. =
The
> cheapest way I've found is two DGS-3120 (~700$ each plus 200$ stacking
> cable). Ciscos and Junipers and the bigger HPs are all much above =
afaik.
>=20
> -Harry
>=20

Not always. For example Extreme Networks's MLAG allows link aggregation =
between two switches, that
are not stacked. You just have to create a special vlan between them and =
configure them for MLAG.
But of course this is proprietary protocol.




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