From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 16 08:53:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5816A4CF for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6DB43D53 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:53:54 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 1A6EA5D07; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:53:54 -0700 (PDT) To: "M. Warner Losh" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:28:05 MDT." <20040415.192805.118023980.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:53:54 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040416155354.1A6EA5D07@ptavv.es.net> cc: jdusek@cs.uiowa.edu cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Centrino X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:53:55 -0000 > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:28:05 -0600 (MDT) > From: "M. Warner Losh" > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > In message: <407EBC7A.7040900@cs.uiowa.edu> > Jason Dusek writes: > : Is it true that Centrino's built-in wireless does not work with FreeBSD? > > No. It works with ndis w/o a problem. It's probably worth noting that ndis (Project Evil) is available only in CURRENT (although it can be added to 5.2.1). It is not available on STABLE. Most developers are primarily running CURRENT these days and it's pretty easy to forget that most of the world is afraid to run it as it is clear declared to not be stable. That said, laptop support in CURRENT is vastly better than in STABLE. But laptops vary a LOT and some don't like CURRENT very well. Suspend/resume is a particular problem as it has only recently been addressed seriously as more general ACPI issues are resolved. I have been running CURRENT on my everyday use laptop (IBM T30) for well over a year and it's been running well (except for suspend/resume issues) for some time. But I am now so used to any quirks introduced in CURRENT that I may no longer even notice them. So, if you run CURRENT on your laptop as a new user, you can provide valuable input on rough spots BEFORE V5 is declared STABLE. (Hint, hint.) And I STRONGLY urge you to subscribe to current@ and monitor it if you run CURRENT as there are still times when you really don't want to update unless you are willing to help debug things. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634