From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Feb 14 23:29:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A820F05DD4 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from 001.las.mailroute.net (001.las.mailroute.net [199.89.4.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailroute.net", Issuer "AlphaSSL CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C393972F4D for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by 001.las.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3zhbGl4Yhzz8sY1; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from 001.las.mailroute.net ([199.89.4.4]) by localhost (001.las.mailroute.net [127.0.0.1]) (mroute_mailscanner, port 10026) with LMTP id Pfv13xNGzsih; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by 001.las.mailroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3zhbG96W6Bz8sXN; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 775CB12B5; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:29:21 -0800 (PST) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Doug Hardie Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any problem going from 9.x (don't laugh) to 11 directly? References: <86lgfvjk6c.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <7F0B2921-9F04-4E15-BD0F-17A0EA8E953B@mail.sermon-archive.info> x-mayan-date: Long count = 13.0.5.4.1; tzolkin = 13 Imix; haab = 19 Pax Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:29:21 -0800 In-Reply-To: <7F0B2921-9F04-4E15-BD0F-17A0EA8E953B@mail.sermon-archive.info> (Doug Hardie's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:13:23 -0800") Message-ID: <86lgfvi20e.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:29:59 -0000 >>>>> "Doug" == Doug Hardie writes: Doug> FreeBSD 9.1 cannot use freebsd-update to go directly to Doug> 11.x. I'm on 9.3, and intended to use freebsd-update. Doug> During the upgrade process when you first reboot, you really need Doug> to boot in single user mode. Doug> I have always done a regular boot as Doug> the machines were not local and had no access to the console. I don't think you mean serial console... Arpnetworks gives me a VNC console... I presume I can boot single user from the initial menu. Doug> There are enough library changes that most services just will not Doug> start properly and tend to hang. You are left with a system that Doug> is non-responsive. The one approach I used successfully one time Doug> was to comment virtually everything other than sshd out in Doug> rc.conf. You have to make sure you have really killed sendmail Doug> though. Setting it to NO is not enough. Otherwise it will Doug> eventually give up and give you back service, but it takes a long Doug> time. Great advice! Thanks. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/Dart consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig