From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 15 16:35:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEE237B404 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 47C055347; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 01:35:46 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Chip Morton Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Free BSD References: <20020314204235.L152-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <15505.28725.937368.158235@guru.mired.org> <20020314204235.L152-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020315181331.01b26160@threespace.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Mar 2002 01:35:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020315181331.01b26160@threespace.com> Message-ID: Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chip Morton writes: > I read Jef Raskin's comments, and even though I've heard this opinion > expressed before I don't understand them. If every window manager out > there has done it wrong, why doesn't Raskin put his money where his > mouth is and provide us with his vision of the humane GUI? [...] IMHO, Raskin has a few good points (like the notion that it's easier to hit something at the edge of the screen, and even easier to hit something in a corner), but is completely wrong on most others, such as his insistance that selecting a menu entry with the mouse is faster than pressing a function key, etc. I cringe every time I see a Mac user correct a typo by painstakingly selecting the last character he typed with the mouse before typing the correct character, instead of just using the backspace key (and if you thought that was a stupid thing to do on a PC, wait 'till you've tried in on a modern Mac with its slippery, microscopic mouse) > [...] I know > that he's written his thoughts/experience in his book, but why not > give us an implementation to show the uneducated masses his superior > methodology at work? He did - he designed the original MacOS GUI. His opinion of MacOS X is probably more than slightly tainted by bitterness at having his baby replaced by somebody else's baby. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message