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Date:      Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:42:10 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@pencil-box.village.org>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, "Gary Palmer" <gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG>, dima@best.net, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Release schedule for 2.2.7 
Message-ID:  <199806291842.CAA02820@spinner.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:45:23 CST." <199806291645.KAA00255@pencil-box.village.org> 

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"M. Warner Losh" wrote:
> In message <10114.898670894@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
> : Even for the embedded
> : customers, it's no worse than GPL'd - they have to distribute the
> : sendmail sources or make them available on demand.
> 
> How many embedded customers use sendmail...  Is that next toaster I'm
> going to buy send me email whenever the bread gets stuck?

Or, give sendmail away at cost and you can get out of this too.  The 
license is only a problem if you want to take sendmail and integrate it 
within another proprietary product (eg: a mail transport system) where 
your modified sendmail binaries are not freely distributable.

If your toaster had sendmail binaries on it's hard disk and the users were 
probibited from copying the sendmail binaries by license, then you'd need 
to make another arrangement.

In just about every other case you could pretty much argue that you were
supplying binaries for free (or at media/ distribution cost), so it's 
really a non-issue.

The 8.9.1-beta license is more specific about the scope of the term 
"Source Code", it explicitly says sendmail only.

Don't forget the intent of the license.  Sendmail, Inc is funding sendmail
development with the aim of being able to make a product out of it. Having
the freeware version being freely available and widespread is central to
their strategy.  However, Sendmail Inc (naturally enough) don't want to
fund development of the freeware product if some other company can pick up
what they've been funding and integrating it into another product to
compete directly with them.  They couldn't really give a damn whether your
toaster uses sendmail to send you mail if the bread gets stuck or the toast
is starting to burn. :-)  However, if your toaster had 20GB of disk space,
multiple ethernet connectors, a mail configuration GUI and apparently was
more designed to administer and host large mail sites
(username@toaster.org) than to actually toast bread, then you might have
trouble.

Compare the Sendmail license (the new version with the wording cleaned up)
with something like the SleepyCat DBv2 license.  The sendmail license is an
order of magitude less ominous than the DBv2 license - that one explicitly
requires the source for *everything* to be distributed.

> Warner

Cheers,
-Peter
--
Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>   Netplex Consulting



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