From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 1 7:29:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE78237B407 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 07:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from leblanc.mirrorimage.net (leblanc.mirrorimage.net [209.192.210.146]) by mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14152 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:28:17 -0500 Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by leblanc.mirrorimage.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fA1FUoP96191 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:30:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:30:50 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Smashing Bill Gates necessary? - ressurected? Message-ID: <20011101103050.A96028@keyslapper.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011029111437.A20972@keyslapper.org> <000b01c16111$a0fc1d60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c16111$a0fc1d60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-bright-idea: Lets abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/29/01 11:08 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt sat at the `puter and typed: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Louis LeBlanc > >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 8:15 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Re: Smashing Bill Gates necessary? > > > > > >When the tactics exercised by the > >big estiablished company, even if they did start out in a garage > >themselves, prevent the next entrepreneur from ushering in a new stage > >of evolution for an industry or even just a parallel stage, something > >is wrong. > > >=20 > There are those that would argue that changes in the industry itself > cause this. >=20 > Look at the resource extraction industries and compare logging, mining > and oil. Well, today in the right areas you can still go out there and > hack away in the woods working for yourself and make yourself a living > logging trees. With mining, well you used to be able to do that 100 years > ago but now all the easy-to-get-at deposits are played out so only the > big industries can do it. With oil, well it's still just as expensive to > drill for it, but the problem is that the oil companies and cartels have > locked up the market. >=20 > I think, though, that the existence of FreeBSD and Linux proves that the > software market is not like mining and logging - there's nothing inherent= in > the software industry that mandates a monopoly. >=20 >=20 > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.= com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Gu= ide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.= com Much as I hate to say it Ted, weren't you the one who originally asked that this thread be taken off list? I agreed with your statement that it was way OT, and the message you replied to here was sent off list. And to someone else exclusively. I was unaware that my statements were going to be brought back on list by some third party. Not that I regret them, or don't stand behind them. Like someone else said in this (ressurected) thread, opinions are like @ssholes, everyone's got one. And of course everyone's entitled. I have no problem discussing these things, either on or off list, but I am having a little trouble understanding just where you stand on it. You seem to be playing devil's advocate for opposing ideas. My brother's like that. He doesn't care which side he's on (within reason) so long as he can argue an opposing point with someone. Either way, I still think this is OT (never thought I'd be swingin' that bat), and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about my comments being brought back out in public when I was under the impression they were made to a limited forum. And like I wrote above, this has nothing to do with wether I stand by what I wrote. Right or wrong, everyone's entitled to an opinion. I accept that mine may be incorrect, improper, impolite, or just plain stupid - in certain contexts, but that is why I *am* willing to discuss them in a forum. At least define the forum and inform all parties when it will be changed? $0.02 L --=20 Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC Power, n.: The only narcotic regulated by the SEC instead of the FDA. --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE74WqpeAPWYrNkRWIRApl/AJ4lZ9IZY4sPvbuHIQ8b6Sebk4FQ/gCfYOU3 GdJyUTqTnPW+zYW5MXGI2BI= =sNyY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message